Who are you to call a guy out on his decision on what he wants to support?
Because "Loot boxes are OK when they are only cosmetic" doesn't sound like it's just a personal decision.
Who are you to call a guy out on his decision on what he wants to support?
I can't speak for others, but personally I'm not concerned that someone might complete a game before me because they paid $1.50.Are people upset that people might complete a game before them because they paid $1.50?
Because "Loot boxes are OK when they are only cosmetic" doesn't sound like it's just a personal decision.
You're just talking about a supposed doomsday scenario, which is basically further proving my point. Again, where are these $60 games that force you grind for extreme amounts of time and demand you put tons of money into the game to get anywhere?
I will continue to call these complaints silly, because that's what it looks like to me. People were calling for blood when microtransactions seeped into games a few years ago. Annnd nothing has really changed at all. The progression in games still respect our time and they don't demand that we pay more money just to have a good time.
Exactly.In the end it is your choice but loot chest in AC origins is not same as loot boxes people should avoid.
Origins has merchant that roams around the world and sells Heka Chest that contains random loot. It is not standard loot box.
See this npc from Horizon Zero Dawn:Also, can anyone point out where AC Origins actually has loot boxes?
^He will trade certain resources in exchange for specialized Treasure Boxes with a variety of resources in them. His boxes can be a useful alternative method to acquire some items.
Yes because the OP of that thread has done nothing to rectify the spread of misinformation so now any RNG loot is considered a loot box. :|Or are we now saying any form of RNG loot drop is a loot box?
I'm aware, I'm trying to get people to actually think for a second instead of immediately getting outraged at the phrase "loot box".See this npc from Horizon Zero Dawn:
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It's literally this in AC:Origins. No real money involved. Just a common RPG mechanic.
Yes because the OP of that thread has done nothing to rectify the spread of misinformation so now any RNG loot is considered a loot box. :|
Are people upset that people might complete a game before them because they paid $1.50?
The invention of DLC for games is the reason why we need to buy skins and other previous unlockables in games, it has little to do with microtransactions.Yes, it's a doomsday scenario, but why wait for that to happen before complaining? There's already games that aren't getting this right like 2K's recent NBA game. You can argue it's just cosmetic, but since when did cosmetics stop being part of the game?
Microtransactions led to games no longer offering additional skins as unlockables, why give someone something for free when you can sell it to them? This led to lootboxes, why sell something to someone when you can sell them the chance of getting something? This is also your view that they respect your time and don't demand you pay more, but that's entirely down to what content you're enjoying in a game and a lot of people like the cosmetic side of things and addictive personalities are targeted by these very same concepts.
It's literally this in AC:Origins. No real money involved. Just a common RPG mechanic.
Yes because the OP of that thread has done nothing to rectify the spread of misinformation so now any RNG loot is considered a loot box. :|
Wow... Just. Wow.
The amount of controversy and downright outrage regarding loot boxes is becoming a comical ride on this forum.
Everyone gets angry over loot boxes in games like Shadow of War, Origins yet they have zero proof that your progress is going to be hindered if you do not buy them.
GAF. Stay away from the cool aid, please. Because this forum is dangerously becoming a toxic place filled with repeated threads about a certain topic.
We must have had about 5 threads about loot boxes already.
I understand the potential issues and I do feel we need to keep a close eye on publishers to make sure it doesn't get out of hand. At the same time, I have zero desire to boycott games that just happen to have loot boxes in them. I haven't spent any money on boxes, and I still haven't felt any desire to do so.
I've seen you call this a common RPG mechanic a few times tonight and I have to ask, in which RPGs is this a common feature?
Depending on how bad they are implemented yea.
I was thinking maybe the ESRB should make it so games that include loot boxes are 18+ (due to the similarities to gambling).
There is no evidence that Origins has loot boxes.Yeah I'll skip them. I was excited about AC:Origins too but now that I think about it I'd feel better rewarding devs that don't put any micro-transactions in their games.
If I really feel the urge to play these games I'll buy them on sale.
Why should games with loot boxes be rated 18+?
Loot boxes are the digital equivalent of trading cards or blind box toys where you always receive something for your money, which is legal for anyone of any age to buy in the US and not legally considered gambling (of course you can personally consider them gambling). Unless the US government passes a law that makes receiving any randomized item age restricted/gambling loot boxes aren't going to be considered gambling and I have my doubts we'll ever see a law like that.