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Anyone else disappointed that your mid range rig from yesteryear still kicks ass?
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chickdigger802
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Absolutely NOT. I upgrade my machine every five to six years with a GPU upgrade half way between, so I want the thing to be running new games for the entire time. If a console can last an entire generation without upgrade, I'd prefer my computer (and my budget) have the same luxury.
But that won't happen. New gen consoles will improve in visual fidelity over their lifetime, while computers (unless upgraded) will strain harder and harder to meet minimum requirements that get pushed up every year.
But that won't happen. New gen consoles will improve in visual fidelity over their lifetime, while computers (unless upgraded) will strain harder and harder to meet minimum requirements that get pushed up every year.
No not really. If anything I'm only disappointed that PC gaming lacks the breadth of graphically advanced titles we see more often and consistently in console exclusives. Even though they have their iq issues, Killzone SFs, Ryses, Infamouses, Orders, and Quantum Breaks seem to happen more often on consoles than PC, in regards to visual quality.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Not really, I'm usually broke.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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You actively want to spend more money? that's odd to say the least.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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The OP's question threw me into a fury which I'll summarize as: "No, I'm not disappointed."
Because console hardware is magic and can defy the same limitations of contemporaneous pc hardware, okay. Developers do get better at "optimizing" games to console hardware, but generally if you have a PC today with specs in line with what the current consoles are packing, you can run the same games. Only times when that isn't the case is when a devs don't give a shit about optimizing a game for PC.
chickdigger802
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problem is that i tend to play games at 1080p on my 1440p monitor because of shit ui scaling :X
I am actually disappointed. I've been having the urge to build a new PC really bad recently but what stops me is that my laptop is still capable of running games on high or medium and that teamed up with the money conscious part of me says to wait.
I've looked at my PS4 occasionally as a "waste of money" when thinking about what is out for it currently and thinking that it could have paid for a motherboard but it is cheaper than a totally new PC at the moment.
I'm looking at the major releases and The Witcher 3 is the only reason I can think of to build a new machine. I may give in by the end of the year and build one but I could save the money too....so conflicted!
I've looked at my PS4 occasionally as a "waste of money" when thinking about what is out for it currently and thinking that it could have paid for a motherboard but it is cheaper than a totally new PC at the moment.
I'm looking at the major releases and The Witcher 3 is the only reason I can think of to build a new machine. I may give in by the end of the year and build one but I could save the money too....so conflicted!
Bucket-o-roadkill
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I was so upset that you were sad about this situation that I came up with a great idea. You can send me money if you like!? That way you get to lose the cash and still get decent gaming performance!
Only in the sense that in 2-3 years time PC's will be WAY past PS4 and Xbone in graphics fidelity, moreso than in last-gen. I remember Crysis 1 was the breakthrough for PC games being better-looking than console games, but it wasn't until 2010 or so that some could actually play that game with a mid-range rig on highest settings properly.
Sure its early in the generation, but was i the only one eyeing upgrading your rig with a 780 or 280x or w/e a few months ago, to 'prepare' to keep with next gen consoles?
It's just kind of... whats the word, 'disappointing' that my $250 gpu I picked up early last year for a stopgap can handle these cross gen games at a better framerate and resolution (with most things maxed besides shadows and some heavy stuff) than the new consoles. Sure it saves me money, but i kinda wanted to spend more money if games looked vastly more awesome or something.
Think of having the money to buy candy at the vending machine. You go there but they are out of stock. You still have your money but no candy so you feel
I guess its probably was due to everybody and their mother at e3 hyping at how easy it was to develop games on next gen systems and coded to the metal, cloud ai etc, how all their stuff will be 1080p 60fps no problem.
Besides witcher 3, what are the big heavy hitters for visuals this year on pc?
This is a common trend for every console cycle.
It's still early days yet and most releases are cross-gen so not surprising in the slightest. Allow the second wave dedicated to the new gen and you'll see the need for an upgrade.
CrackPebbles
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No?
Sapphire 5770 and Phenom x4 still wreaking shit. Atleast everything I play (so...some well optimized mutilplats and indies)
I would upgrade if something I cared about demanded it, but nothing has impressed me enough to justify it.
Sapphire 5770 and Phenom x4 still wreaking shit. Atleast everything I play (so...some well optimized mutilplats and indies)
I would upgrade if something I cared about demanded it, but nothing has impressed me enough to justify it.
U wot m8
I get your point OP !
My 4 years old i5 760 overclocked @ 3.8 ghz + my ffactory overclocked 660 Ti perform better than "next-gen" consoles, which was a real surprise for me.
When played Assassin's Creed 4 in better conditions than the PS4 versions, I was glad I didn't fall for the consoles hype.
I am going to buy those next-gens, but certainly not for the graphics. And also, as my computer still is very capable, I am going to wait for The Witcher 3 to see if it's time for a change;
My 4 years old i5 760 overclocked @ 3.8 ghz + my ffactory overclocked 660 Ti perform better than "next-gen" consoles, which was a real surprise for me.
When played Assassin's Creed 4 in better conditions than the PS4 versions, I was glad I didn't fall for the consoles hype.
I am going to buy those next-gens, but certainly not for the graphics. And also, as my computer still is very capable, I am going to wait for The Witcher 3 to see if it's time for a change;
Dreams-Visions
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Barkley's Justice
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I'm just gonna drop the $500 on a gpu now and be future proof for like 10 years
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This made me laugh much more than it should have
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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Wait, since when is a $250 GPU considered mid-range?
chickdigger802
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i can't read the words because things are tiny. Bioshock infinite is a recent one that comes to mind.
i will probably get a 780 or 2 someday.... think i can get a used from a friend for 300-400.
Air Zombie Meat
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No, not at all. Don't want to go back to the old days of pc gaming where it was harder to keep up.
Honestly? I don't really care about visuals getting better, I want games that are fun to play. At this point its usually more about a compelling art style then realism and state of the art lighting.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Not at all, one of the reasons I got a 360/ps3 last Gen and practically became a strict console player for years was because I was a broke ass college student that couldn't afford to keep up with upgrades. My only desire to come back to it was the Oculus Rift Dev kit, and the consumer version will be my primary motivation to upgrade again. I'm glad most games run well at most settings on my rig, it hasn't been like that since maybe the early 2000s for me.
Granted I do wish we had more PC Games in the Crysis 3/Metro LL range of visuals, so that's kind of a bummer, but overall I'm happy with the current landscape, we're getting the majority of third party multiplats (and Witcher 3 will certainly redeem OP's lust for power drain), plus a metric fuck ton of indies, and to top it all off we have a super low latency VR headset on the horizon and that will certainly bring your computer to its knees with certain experiences
Granted I do wish we had more PC Games in the Crysis 3/Metro LL range of visuals, so that's kind of a bummer, but overall I'm happy with the current landscape, we're getting the majority of third party multiplats (and Witcher 3 will certainly redeem OP's lust for power drain), plus a metric fuck ton of indies, and to top it all off we have a super low latency VR headset on the horizon and that will certainly bring your computer to its knees with certain experiences
Harry Dresden
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I've been running this since Spring of 2011.
I am actually looking to do some upgrades. I need a SSD and a new video card (I hate hate hate crossfire/sli - more headaches than its worth)
Anyone have any suggestions on a new video card?
shadowstar
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I wouldn't say disappointed, but I keep getting ready to upgrade and then hold off when my 5 year old machine keeps running games really well. I'm more disappointed in next gen consoles.
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This is wrong. Move the monitor closer then. Reading your post started to make me twitch thinking about how awful that looks
famousmortimer
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I'm glad that my PC is still up to the task with most games... but spending $250 on a midrange GPU isn't exactly cheap living.
full screening usually fixes that for me.
It's not your computer's fault the devs didn't consider scaling over 1080p being possible.
Yes, I am disappointed that games tech isn't pushing harder. Witcher 3 will probably be the only game this year to push my system and that's pretty sad. I want to see games move forward much faster but we're limited to what consoles can do, except for something like Star Citizen. I wish an RTS would come out that would push the boundaries of what is possible.
Better visuals is not equivalent to better games or gameplay. I'd rather devs focus on better gameplay than graphics that make my PC obsolete.
Nah, PCs have much more physical space and budget to work with. Can't really expect a console to keep up with the same tech being available to both.
That reminds me, need to check if I can use GDDR5 as my system RAM yet, heh. (edit: or DDR4, apparently)
Apples and oranges. I expect that in a few years I'll be playing Star Citizen and Everquest Next on my Oculus Rift on PC, but I'll still fire up the PS4 to get access to the latest Disgaea or whatever.
That reminds me, need to check if I can use GDDR5 as my system RAM yet, heh. (edit: or DDR4, apparently)
Apples and oranges. I expect that in a few years I'll be playing Star Citizen and Everquest Next on my Oculus Rift on PC, but I'll still fire up the PS4 to get access to the latest Disgaea or whatever.
hendersonhank
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My midrange isn't cutting it anymore. My 560ti can't get 60fps at 1080p in a lot of games now and that's with some settings dropped as well.
Lateraleye
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If anything, I'm disappointed that laptops haven't made bigger leaps. While I loved the process of building my own desktop PC a year and a half ago, I still pine for that one machine that can do it all: portable, lightweight, plays current games on medium+ at 60 fps, SSD standard, not a ridiculous price ($1500 or less). I could play on a big monitor at home and on a high res screen on the go. I like flexibility.
I know that day will never come unless we're now at the peak of graphics complexity, but it's quite the lovely dream. I am impressed with the strides Intel has made with their integrated graphics the last two years but there is a huuuuuge way to go for them to compete with discrete.
I know that day will never come unless we're now at the peak of graphics complexity, but it's quite the lovely dream. I am impressed with the strides Intel has made with their integrated graphics the last two years but there is a huuuuuge way to go for them to compete with discrete.
QuantumZebra
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My AMD X4 955 @ 4ghz and 6850 can run BF4 on ultra @ 30-40+ fps...
I'm not disappointed at all, I'm amazed
I'm not disappointed at all, I'm amazed