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anyone else not interested in going forward if Wii U dominates?
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Clairvoyance
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Yeah, since 3DS started current gen, WiiU will indeed be current gen. Remarkable observation skills there.
michaelius
Banned
No need to worry because it won't happen.
I could give a shit about "AAA" gaming, but the reality is PC gaming is healthier and more diverse than ever, even disregarding console ports.
I don't really think that's going to change whether or not PS4/Xbox3 are a success.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
You clearly pay no attention to history. Companies that want to make super high production cost games for he most powerful systems will do so like theyve always done.
Blaming company closures on Nintendo is all sorts of lol
If you're going to hold back the tech wouldn't it make more sense to charge appropriately for it? Again looking at 3ds and vita makes you wonder if that's what we're headed for.
Not a crazy opinion. A lot of acclaimed games that brand themselves as "indie" are pretty bad.
Just Dance lol?
Where do you think the PC ends up if PS4/720 come out with the same tech as WiiU?
Most PC games today even go to waste becasue they're held back by the necessity for console ports. It happens at the end of every gen when the tech is no longer good enough...
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It's actually pretty close to fact. The sheer volume of quality titles on PS360 dwarfs Wii.
I hate to be the metacritic guy, but I just did a quick count of games rated 85+ for 360 and Wii. I think 85 is a reasonable number for games that are liked by a vast majority of gamers. It's an arbitrary point, but any other arbitrary point you pick will paint a similar story.
360 = 150 titles,
Wii = 42 titles.
Sure, there might be some gamers out there for whom the HD twins offerings don't hold up, but they're statistical outliers.
I didn't blame it on nintendo. It's the exact opposite. Again they chose to sleep on the Wii. I don't see them doing it again.
Super high resolutions, super sampling, VR, 120Hz. And I'd be fine with that. Games are so much more immersive with ultra high IQ (see: Dark Souls, The Witcher 2 with ubersampling). 120Hz and VR will require even more hardware power. There's still a lot we can get out of current games with better hardware.
Yeah well most of the games I still play are inevitably console ports. And I don't want ancient Nintendo tech dictating the types of games I will play on PC for the next 5 years. I want to have to upgrade my current PC in a couple of years to be able to play games that look like Star Wars 1313 or even better than that.
I say that knowing I will have to upgrade to play Rome Total War 2 in its full glory anyway
CaptNfantasy
Banned
The sad thing is, human emotion doesnt evolve. Ever. Sadness now was the same as it was in caveman times, same as love, same as excitement etc. Human emotion does not ever evolve. A game system or movie or song is merely a tool to elicit those emotions. If the game can do that, then it is a successful tool. The history of video games and art as well as the current state of video games and art prove this to be fact.
To you "evolve" means just more tech, which is the most shallow and mindless thing anyone could gravitate towards within the spectrum of human emotional response.
You don't know this because you don't know the Durango/PS4 specs or how devs plan to handle them.
walking fiend
Member
lol, it's ironic that focus on HD this gen actually prevented PC games from advancing as much as they could.
Reviews are opinions though; and personally I will be hard pressed to name 5 games on HD consoles that I am even interested in trying that aren't available on PC
God forbid game companies stuck with Nintendo so they don't face closures. Nintendo, history's greatest monster.
Define appropriate? It's not like current-gen consoles are dropping in price like rocks; a lot of it depends on what you value the Wii U controller at. If you peg it at $100, the Wii U base model is basically priced comparably to the 360 with Kinect. I'm not saying the Wii U is cheap, just that Sony and MS have kept console prices high enough that paying that much for tech that's not a huge leap above the 360/PS3 isn't that out-of-line.
TheContact
Member
PC gaming will never die, so no.
drkOne
Member
You're an hypocrite. You complain about tech leaps yet are playing on consoles.
If you really cared that much about graphics and hardware power you wouldn't be looking forward to the next PS/Xbox and would have gotten a PC already.
The fact that you'll give up on gaming just because the Wii U might win is also pretty laughable, you apparently don't care about the games themselves, so why not quit gaming right now?
He's right tho, that's your opinion. Which I agree with, but game quality is still only an opinion.
You're wrong, a lot of PC games can pretty much max out any of the latest graphic cards if you're playing at 2560x1400 while keeping the 60FPS.
You know, devs actually care about their PC version quality nowadays. It's pretty cool.
If you really cared that much about graphics and hardware power you wouldn't be looking forward to the next PS/Xbox and would have gotten a PC already.
The fact that you'll give up on gaming just because the Wii U might win is also pretty laughable, you apparently don't care about the games themselves, so why not quit gaming right now?
He's right tho, that's your opinion. Which I agree with, but game quality is still only an opinion.
You're wrong, a lot of PC games can pretty much max out any of the latest graphic cards if you're playing at 2560x1400 while keeping the 60FPS.
You know, devs actually care about their PC version quality nowadays. It's pretty cool.
This is true. Fanboy tears are great when shed.
BlockheadBrown
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Gamer Rules:
- Buy games because you like to play them.
- Buy the system(s) that allow you to play the games you want.
- Do not buy a system on specs alone. See Rule #1.
Well, I have a pretty high end PC that should last me a good few years, and the cost of upgrading (especially when selling my old components on ebay) will be minimal.
As long as the PC has a good selection, I'll be sticking with a Wii U/PC combo.
It's a pretty easy conclusion to make. You guys can say 'you don't know the specs yet' all you want, but at the end of the day they'll come out and they'll dwarf the WiiU tech. Holding on to the extremely small chance that it won't happen isn't going to change that.
Many seem to think that developers should be marched into the AAAA volcano as a sacrifice to the hardcore gods. Unfortunately, this is already happening and Visceral will probably be the first to hit the lava.
If your question is "do you want to play games on current gen tech level for the next five years" then the question is a clear and loud "no". If WiiU would dominate so hard, that other consoles would'nt properly exist next to it, well, then yeah I pobably would quit gaming.
It's about time anyway.
It's about time anyway.
Lasthope106
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I hate the one to say it but...
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CaptNfantasy
Banned
PC has dwarfed the 2 HD consoles for years but im sure plenty of people enjoyed millions of hours of gaming on them.
Yep. anyone who is paying any attention at all can see the writing on the wall. Barring some kind of major economic meltdown, we have a pretty good idea of what these machines will be.
walking fiend
Member
Extension 1: Buy PC if you 'really' want your games to look as good as you want
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Um, Wii Sports? 80 millions.
fabricated backlash
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It still boggles my mind that people would even expect Xbox 720 or PS4 to be anywhere near the cutting edge compared to PC. Arguing about a preference for hardware power, but ignoring the only true option when it comes to that is quite amusing to me.
Also the old excuses simply aren't valid anymore. Steam and vastly easier install procedures compared to even 5 years ago, the ability to use the biggest selection of input devices, achieving vastly higher IQ, geometry, physics calculations etc with equal or less money than a new console will cost you.
My Wii library dwarfs my PS3 library. Sony systems are always 3rd party platforms for me, and PS3 was incredibly meh in comparison with PS2 and PS1. It's all opinions, but I feel people really overrate the HD twins. DS and PSP got more varied, fun, interesting libraries in my opinion.
BruceLeeRoy
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Comments like this are so out of touch that I feel like there is no way anyone that lived through that transition from the N64 to the Dreamcast to the PS2 would ever say that.
plagiarize
Banned
I won't miss you.
Mr. Poolman
Member
It's not just the specs, it's the standards. PS2 was dwarfed in power by the Gamecube and Xbox, but they were all compatible with the popular game engines of the era and porting was easy as a result . Wii was an actual museum piece, whereas the WiiU is compliant with middleware that will be used for years to come in addition to some that's just coming out.
DeaconKnowledge
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God what a childish viewpoint.
IHaveCandy
Banned
The Wii sold more units, but was terrible at getting 3rd party sales. The bread and butter for 3rd party will come from PS4/720.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
This is sadly true. This AAA business is so fucked up.
If it manages to become the dominant gaming platform (and I must stress, that's a big if), that will be because 'Nintendo's garbage tech' is what the industry *needs* right now.
PS2 wasn't "dwarfed" by GC and Xbox. It was less powerful, but still competitive. It wasn't anywhere near the disparity between the Wii and PS360 - which is the kind of disparity we're going to see with Wii U vs the new Sony and MS machines.
PdotMichael
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not third party, honey