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Anyone here not giving MS a second chance after RROD?
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Dark Octave
Banned
Same except mine went in 9 month intervals and I think the last one lasted a year and a half. Five unique 360s. Nine repairs total.
The "sorry friend" is the real clincher here. Whomever came up with that policy not to cut a deal after 15 duds is a real cunt.
Same could be said for ps4? No? Both ps2 and ps3 have been pretty unreliable with the hardware issues
PS3 was nowhere near as unreliable as 360.
But yeah, it's a good idea to wait a while on PS4, too. But it's not nearly as necessary as waiting on Durango.
CambriaRising
Member
No one "deserves" to have a product they paid for break.
A crap load of launch systems have issues. Ticking time bombs
RedNumberFive
Banned
Agreed, but lets not pretend that it's even in the same ballpark as the 360's unprecedented failure rate.
something fishy
Member
The quality of the s model tells me they sorted their process out and the three year warranty was a fair reaction so It doesn't bother me at all.
probably staying pc only regardless though.
probably staying pc only regardless though.
dragonflys545
Member
God damn... Sucks for you. My launch PS2 still works like a charm.
But the 360 was covered by a free extended warranty. I doubt MS wants to blow through the billions that cost again. While Sony got away with it, though their problems weren't as bad.
If launch PS3s are ticking time bombs, the entire fat run of 360s is a barrel of blasting oil.
Not saying it is, but this is the 2nd home console In a row by Sony to launch with a high amount of hardware issues. You'd be wise to hold off on getting a Durango or ps4 at launch
old manatee
Banned
Like I said in my post, my xbox broke every year, and they kept sending me refurbed units that were defective in the same way. After 3 broken units I was past their extended warranty and shit out of luck. I don't think that was fair. Hell, the warranty started with the first unit, so if you take into account the months that it took for them to send them back I didn't even get 3 years out of it.
something fishy
Member
perhaps not. I can only go by what I've experienced. Haven't had one fail since 2007 and the 2008 elite is still going but I don't expect it to last forever. the s seems very stable.
in fact I've known nobody have your bad luck but those I do know who had failures just ditched the refurbs, probably why they escaped the cycle.
in fact I've known nobody have your bad luck but those I do know who had failures just ditched the refurbs, probably why they escaped the cycle.
old manatee
Banned
Worst of all is that when I would have to call customer service I had to talk to a manufactured gamer personality named MAX.
MAX:"Hey bro, this is MAX! Bummer about your xbox being broken dude! We're going to get you back to pwning noobs right away, dawg!"
Actual human operator:"That will be $150."
MAX:"Hey bro, this is MAX! Bummer about your xbox being broken dude! We're going to get you back to pwning noobs right away, dawg!"
Actual human operator:"That will be $150."
Thats determination. Its kind of hard to completely avoind MS products.
but I thought the NeoGAF trend now is to repeat mistakes and hope for failures for Microsoft
atomic moth
Member
It would be shocking if MS had the same problems, but they do need to prove that they won't. I never gave them a first chance because of the RRoD that my friends suffered.
Others experiences will obviously vary, but my 40 gig PS3 had been going strong for about 5 or 6 years now, with regular vacuuming. So all Sony has to show me is the games, and I will eventually buy a PS4.
Others experiences will obviously vary, but my 40 gig PS3 had been going strong for about 5 or 6 years now, with regular vacuuming. So all Sony has to show me is the games, and I will eventually buy a PS4.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
I'm not. I got burned really badly by the RRoD, I had 4 of them in a row. Every time they'd send me one back it would go. The last one went the night before I was supposed to leave the country, immediately after I'd downloaded $35 in Oblivion DLC. So I couldn't bring it with me and essentially lost the thing.
So, on the one hand was the massive inconvenience of losing what was then a $400 system.
But what's worse was that MS knew about that shit ahead of time, denied it to the hilt to the public and went ahead with pushing their faulty design anyway. So yeah, they lost me as a customer then and there, and I think it's perfectly reasonable not to go back to them.
So, on the one hand was the massive inconvenience of losing what was then a $400 system.
But what's worse was that MS knew about that shit ahead of time, denied it to the hilt to the public and went ahead with pushing their faulty design anyway. So yeah, they lost me as a customer then and there, and I think it's perfectly reasonable not to go back to them.
StickyFingers
Member
I bought the 360 day 1.
I send a 360 back 6 times.
I even received a second 360 with a HDD. That one was broken, so I send it back to be repaired. I then had 2 360's. The second one was used as back up for myself or friends when their xboxes went kaput.
The second one broke, no warranty anymore.
And the one I have now still works.
So, yes. I'll buy the new Xbox.
I send a 360 back 6 times.
I even received a second 360 with a HDD. That one was broken, so I send it back to be repaired. I then had 2 360's. The second one was used as back up for myself or friends when their xboxes went kaput.
The second one broke, no warranty anymore.
And the one I have now still works.
So, yes. I'll buy the new Xbox.
I gave them a fair go. Dud 360 consoles, dud wp7 phone, and the last OS I bought from them was vista. Easy to find alternatives though - android, ps3 and nintendo consoles, and mac computers (or linux mint if that ends in tears).
Avoiding MS products at home is easy, and at work its a non issue since I dont pay for them myself.
So yeah, its quite easy to not buy microsoft products.
How is he killing Slims so fast? My slim has been running strong for a while, I wonder where he keeps it.
Only one was a slim according to his list, so it's not unrealistic to see one on there.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
Imagine if the next Xbox was everything a gamer could ever wish for. You're telling me you wouldn't buy it because of RRoD on early 360 models? Don't be rediculous, and company should never be punished for past mistakes but always reviewed in the present.
I used to be the actual human on the phone. If people mentioned Max, it was usually with disdain, but for some reason there were always a few people who really liked it.
DJ_Lae
Member
Sure. I did have one red ring on me but it was repaired under warranty. I also had a PS3 die on me and Sony was miserable about the whole experience (yet I bought myself a replacement anyway).
I'll probably buy both at some point, I'll just look back fondly on the days where consoles didn't just break all the time.
I'll probably buy both at some point, I'll just look back fondly on the days where consoles didn't just break all the time.
Somethings a little fishy still, either he is very unlucky or he is storing his Xbox 360 in a way that it overheats easily.
I've gone through at least 5-6 Xbox 360's myself but all were replaced for free thankfully.
Eh, if I buy any product for a significant chunk of money and it turns out to be a dud, combined with poor customer service and lying about the problem then there is no reason to give them money again when multiple alternatives exist.
Pollux
Member
I got a 360 day one...it RROD a few years later. Bought a new one, and that still runs fine, got another for a year or so ago and it works great.
I'll be there for the Durango day one, and if it breaks...fuck it. I'll get another one.
I'm too invested in Microsoft with friends on xbox live and game backlog and I also really like Halo over any of the PS exclusives.
So, no, the RROD did no sour me.
I'll be there for the Durango day one, and if it breaks...fuck it. I'll get another one.
I'm too invested in Microsoft with friends on xbox live and game backlog and I also really like Halo over any of the PS exclusives.
So, no, the RROD did no sour me.
RedNumberFive
Banned
I'm not sure if I've had enough coffee to detect sarcasm and joke posts.
Maybe they were built poorly. It's not like he is the only person on gaf with multiple rrod failures
Baconsammy
Banned
This. If I never bought hardware because I had issues prior, I never would have bought another PS1, PS2, DS, 3DS, 360, Wii, or PS3. It's how they follow up that matters, and in the case of the 360 they gave me a new one free, and then released the Slim, which is probably the best console hardware I've used so far. Fast, quiet and love the ability to install all my games to it.
Nothing fishy, the XBox 360 was poorly built, and Microsoft acknowledged their failure by offering free replacement plan (limited of course) for them. Later Slims were a lot more reliable though.
RedNumberFive
Banned
There's nothing fishy about it. Each time you send your 360 in you're getting someone else's "fixed" console from their refurb pool. I received a 360 back that reeked of cigarette smoke and failed in under an hour. The only way to break the cycle is to buy a new one.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
It't not sarcasm, at all. By the logic in the OP I shouldn't buy the PS4 because the PS3 had software problems between launch and about a year into release.
RRoD is was caused by hardware design and it has caused Microsoft a lot of money but more importantly, it caused bad PR. It would be stupid to assume Microsoft would make the same mistake again.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Um, no. RRoD wasn't a "mistake," it was them screwing the consumer base over so they wouldn't miss their launch target. If a corporation fucks you over you're not compelled to perpetually keep them in your life. If anything it just rewards them.
You think they didn't know Kinect didn't work 100% right either?
Well 5-6 is one thing but 15 is on another level...
It's stupid to assume they won't.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I can't even recall how many 360's I went through... 4 or 5?
Whatever... the last RROD and I refused to buy another. And I won't buy another 360, even though I liked the system well enough otherwise.
I will not be an early adopter of Durango. Not unless they blow my socks off at E3. I will never buy another 360, but I will likely buy the nextbox at some point. I would like to wait a while, but you never know, maybe they'll make too compelling an argument.
Whatever... the last RROD and I refused to buy another. And I won't buy another 360, even though I liked the system well enough otherwise.
I will not be an early adopter of Durango. Not unless they blow my socks off at E3. I will never buy another 360, but I will likely buy the nextbox at some point. I would like to wait a while, but you never know, maybe they'll make too compelling an argument.