A Link to the Past
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Chibbi Brady said:
AND PHOENIX WRIGHT
Did it sell more than 1k this month?
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AND PHOENIX WRIGHT
Did it sell more than 1k this month?
sonycowboy
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GhaleonEB said:
So, it's only ~700k behind the original Xbox now?
The Take Out Bandit
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The USA?
THE WORLD! </Dio>
The PS3 will boggle the mind.
The multi-function appeal of the PSP is probably what's keeping it afloat. I'm still not keen on UMD movies, but dumping episodes of 24 to my memory stick and watching them on my lunch hour is a hella cool option.
As the software library fills out, more gamers will come.
Why do you say that? For how much you participate in the numbers game on GAF, I think you're quite cynical (especially when the news is good for Sony).sonycowboy said:
Personally, I think it's quite impressive how many systems are able to sell considering how many major platforms this industry is supporting right now.Andy787 said:Why do you say that? For how much you participate in the numbers game on GAF, I think you're quite cynical (especially when the news is good for Sony).
I believe last year this month ps2 sales were like 600,000 were they not?
sonycowboy
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Andy787 said:Why do you say that? For how much you participate in the numbers game on GAF, I think you're quite cynical (especially when the news is good for Sony).
January is traditionally a VERY strong month for Video games, but it doesn't appear so this year. I wonder if that will also be reflected in software sales which could be ugly.
year-over-year
PS2 sales are down by 44%
Xbox sales are down by 63%
GCN sales are down by 41%
GBA sales are down by 41%
DS sales are up by 4%
True, there are two new platforms but even with that the sales are down 8% vs last year.
Horrible, IMO.
NintendosBooger
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PS3 and Rev can't come soon enough.
We're comparing sales of a next-gen console with 5-6 year-old machines and bitching about handheld sales.
We're comparing sales of a next-gen console with 5-6 year-old machines and bitching about handheld sales.
A Link to the Past said:
The major problem (if it is a problem) in the US is they aren't getting the GBA to DS switch they have in other countries,people are still buying GBA's.
NOA is entirely to blame IMO, some really stupid decisions.
Stopping the Nintendogs bundle was just insane ( although I'm surprised it sold as well as it did in the US considering those awful US ads) and only having silver,red and electric blue DS's when most of the female gamers won't touch a DS unless it's pink.
They really should just admit they were stupid and flood the market with Nintendogs bundles again.
Frankfurter
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sonycowboy said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but DS sales are up by ~4%, aren't they?
sonycowboy
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Frankfurter said:
Fixed.
I had an excel glitch.
A Link to the Past
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Taker666 said:
QFT. Seriously, what the fuck Nintendo? You might as well discontinue the DS.
sonycowboy said:
I dont' think it is horrible. It is expected when you look at what has happened in the console arena...
MS gave up on Xbox
Nintendo gave up on Gamecube
PS2 is *still* $150 a year later
360 still having shortage problems
On the good side, 360 should reach over a million sold after Feb!
PSP looks primed to have a sales explosion in the USA soon with a 50 dollar price drop.
Yeah, the original xbox had a pretty bad 2002 until the price drop. But it had already sold some 1.8M in 2001.GhaleonEB said:
MS reached their target of 4.5M shipped by June 2002 (about 3.5M sold through if I remember correctly), lets see if they reach the same amount with 360 (same sales predictions) and if they can do it without a price drop this time.
I do not see Sony dropping the price as long as the PSP sells that good
sonycowboy
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Mrbob said:
I can give plenty of reasons / excuses for the poor performance as well, but in the end it's still poor.
1) Apparently, Microsoft hasn't shipped core systems for the better part of 2-3 month, only shipping stores the Forza bundle.
2) PS2 is now at 20 months at the $149 price point and could really use a price drop
3) Microsoft claimed 900k sold through December and the thought was ~shipments hit late and didn't get a chance to be counted in Decembers sales. Given that there were multiple shipments in January (my local EB had 3 - one quite large), I'd say their claim of "sold" was BS. It was shipments, just like Sony
monkeymagic
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jett said:
What were you expecting?
And weren't sales limited by supply anyway.
Either way, for a system purported by many to eventually halve Playstation's marketshare in the US it's not off to a particularly auspicious start.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Nice. My predictions = f*cked
276k error for me >.< (overestimated everything from sony and nintendo, underestimated everything from microsoft :lol )
276k error for me >.< (overestimated everything from sony and nintendo, underestimated everything from microsoft :lol )
The Abominable Snowman
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Go PSP!
I think a major factor in PSP sales are people in the job-having age group buying it, and by WOM spreading the PSP message, and kinda peer pressuring others to get one. Right before Christmas, my teacher planned a big Christmas party, and immediately I said that everyone with a PSP should bring it so we could have a big game orgy. 3 people (I suspect 2 others lied about having one then, and bought it later also) saved up their paychecks for a month and bought one for the christmas party, 2 without games (GameShare).
I think a major factor in PSP sales are people in the job-having age group buying it, and by WOM spreading the PSP message, and kinda peer pressuring others to get one. Right before Christmas, my teacher planned a big Christmas party, and immediately I said that everyone with a PSP should bring it so we could have a big game orgy. 3 people (I suspect 2 others lied about having one then, and bought it later also) saved up their paychecks for a month and bought one for the christmas party, 2 without games (GameShare).
jamesinclair
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Xbox sales are down by 63%
GCN sales are down by 41%
That gap keeps on closing.
I knew sales would be low. In the predictions thread, I mentioned that everybody was aiming too high. Everybody is waiting for PS3 / Revo / Xbox 360 (you know, manly shipments).
DS and PSP have nice numbers, but I cant honestly see why the PSP is outselling the DS.
GCN sales are down by 41%
That gap keeps on closing.
I knew sales would be low. In the predictions thread, I mentioned that everybody was aiming too high. Everybody is waiting for PS3 / Revo / Xbox 360 (you know, manly shipments).
DS and PSP have nice numbers, but I cant honestly see why the PSP is outselling the DS.
sonycowboy
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jamesinclair said:
So, the tug of war continues.
1) PSP outsold the DS for 5 months
2) DS barely outsold the PSP for 3 months
3) PSP has barely outsold the DS for 2 months
SolidSnakex
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jamesinclair said:
Pretty simple i'd say, it has to do with people seeing the PSP as a multimedia device which is what Sony wanted it to be. Gamers might get pissed that Sony isn't completely focused on games with it, but that never was what it was made to be. It should only grow in popularity if Sony's able to pull off their PSP Connect service.
The Take Out Bandit
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You know, maybe I'm giving it too much credit - but is it possible that finally having demo kiosks at retail is giving consumers the chance to see gaming on the go outside of the handheld ghetto?
Hell - I'm a complete Sony mark, and I didn't see a PSP in action in person until about November / December at Best Buy, and even then it was crappy stuff like Hot Shots Golf and The Con. But still, for Joe Average consumer, that may be enough to push them over the edge.
The Abominable Snowman
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Doesn't the whole "PSP's tie ratio is awesome" thing kind of throw a wrench into your "People see it as a multimedia device first" thing?
I mean, I think the majority of gamers see it as something more than *just* a media device. I think they associate it with gaming first and foremost.
I mean, I think the majority of gamers see it as something more than *just* a media device. I think they associate it with gaming first and foremost.
sonycowboy
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The Take Out Bandit said:
Die!
The Take Out Bandit
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Sorry, Konami could make Rumble Roses Golf and I still wouldn't care. It's a boring ass old man sport. Native Americans should rise up and reclaim all that land wasted on golf, slit the soft fat underbellies of the lazy establishment.
DOWN WITH GOLF!
* grabs tomahawk for some scalpin' action!
DOWN WITH GOLF!
* grabs tomahawk for some scalpin' action!
SolidSnakex
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The Abominable Snowman said:
No because we also know UMD's are selling well. I'm not saying the people who buy it don't care about games at all since you can look at the sales for the games in the US and tell they're selling well. But there are other reasons for its success too.
I'm with Sonycowboy on this one. Pretty disappointing numbers all around. The only exception for me would be the PS2. 272,000 is still a pretty decent number for the month, and it had an unfair comparison with last January because of the built-up shortages during the holiday season. But everything else is just - meh.sonycowboy said:
By the way - thanks as always Bunkum.
The Abominable Snowman
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Aren't UMD movie sales a little less than half of all UMD sales?SolidSnakex said:
And aside that, are they even counted toward the tie ratio cited in all NPD threads, when UMD movie sales aren't covered in such threads?
Earthstrike
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nintendo wants to shake off that kiddy image thats haunting them and keeping Nintendogs bundles on the shelf will hurt them in the long run. Nintendo wants to try to be as "Mature as possible" witht he release of MP:H
I think a lot of people do and they have an extremely high tie ratio, but I think there's a lot of people that don't, and buy it for the movies. The average of these two tie ratios is the tie ratio we probably see.
Pimpbaa
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Earthstrike said:
Why would they want to shake that image? There is nothing indicating that they want to do this. Children probably make up a considerable amount of their demographic. The only thing that's apparent lately is their attempt to make gamers out of non gamers lately. Nintendo is distancing themselves even further from the "mature" gamer with the underpowered revolution.