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Earthstrike said:
I think a lot of people do and they have an extremely high tie ratio, but I think there's a lot of people that don't, and buy it for the movies. The average of these two tie ratios is the tie ratio we probably see.
Well, in NPD threads when someone forms a tie ratio of Total PSP software sales/Total PSP hardware sales, they're not adding in UMD movies.
 
marc^o^ said:
The DS really needed a redesign to sell in NA. Plus Metroïd, Brain Training & Tetris.

If it's still not enough, unleash Super Mario Bros, Final Fantasy, Zelda & Pokemon.

Dunno if the redesign will help.Lower price might do that.
 
Dalthien said:
I'm with Sonycowboy on this one. Pretty disappointing numbers all around. The only exception for me would be the PS2. 272,000 is still a pretty decent number for the month, and it had an unfair comparison with last January because of the built-up shortages during the holiday season. But everything else is just - meh.

I guess potential buyers had bills to pay. Holidays like Christmas are hard on credit cards and the like, so all those fellow gluttons for easy credit had to face reality in January?
 
Earthstrike said:
nintendo wants to shake off that kiddy image thats haunting them and keeping Nintendogs bundles on the shelf will hurt them in the long run. Nintendo wants to try to be as "Mature as possible" witht he release of MP:H
Would be the most stupid thing to do, and they know MP numbers never came close to Mario Kart, Pokemon etc. numbers.

Adding some mature titles to expand the audience, yes, dropping the younger audience and thus dropping most of their customers (especially when it comes to merchandising) - sure not.
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
Well, in NPD threads when someone forms a tie ratio of Total PSP software sales/Total PSP hardware sales, they're not adding in UMD movies.
Just let them grasp at straws.
It's been the same bull since UMD movies started selling well.
The tie-ratio has always been good-great and it's all about the games.

Are there people who buy PSP and primarily use it for MP3+Movies? Yes.
Is this the reason PSP is selling well? No.
 
Why would they want to shake that image?

You ask Nintendo.
But Reggie Fils-aime dDID in fact state Nintendo want to get rid of its kiddy image.

Want proof?
Look at the Gamecube and then Look at the revolution.
Notice how one looks kiddy and the other sexy?


P.S I'm not saying Nintendo should stop selling to children, they just don't want to be percieved as kiddy by the older demographic.
 
f_elz said:
Dunno if the redesign will help. Lower price might do that.
Geeks, Adults and (not so) Mature Gamers can't buy anything that doesn't look sexy. The new DS is quite irresitible and will appeal to this expanded crowd, no doubt about it.
 
GAF flamers, your welcome :lol

PS2 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 88k
PSP NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 56k
360 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 51k
XBX NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 44k
GCN NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 16k
NDS NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 10k
 
Earthstrike said:
Look at the Gamecube and then Look at the revolution.
Notice how one looks kiddy and the other sexy?
The GBA didnt look sexy, the SP looked sexy, the the DS did not. The DS Lite does again.

Nintendo dont want to get rid of the kids, they just want to get some of the parents too. Toy design might deter some older gamers, but I dont think sexy design will deter any kids. Thats probably what Nintendo realized.
 
marc^o^ said:
Geeks, Adults and (not so) Mature Gamers can't buy anything that doesn't look sexy. The new DS is quite irresitible and will appeal to this expanded crowd, no doubt about it.
Iono, but I've been told that I sound like a Nintendo hater, so I'll shut up.
 
It might be smarter for Nintendo to release the DS lite in the US now and Japan later as the former seems to need it much more than the latter.
 
Roders5 said:
It might be smarter for Nintendo to release the DS lite in the US now and Japan later as the former seems to need it much more than the latter.
The DS is doing fine in the US and I dont think the DS Lite will make it the same hype in the US as it is in japan right now, that isnt a question of design.
 
Link316 said:
not in the US

Of course it has. Definitely in launch month, most likely in April, definitely in May (250k vs. ~223k), definitely in June (294k vs. ~288k), perhaps in July (I don't have the GBA numbers for March, April and July).
 
quetz67 said:
The DS is doing fine in the US and I dont think the DS Lite will make it the same hype in the US as it is in japan right now, that isnt a question of design.

Gotta disagree. The GBA was doing well in the US, but when the SP came out, things really heated up. I know for sure I wouldn't have ever bought an original DS since I knew a re-design would be coming eventually. I intend to get a DSL at launch.
 
Meier said:
Gotta disagree. The GBA was doing well in the US, but when the SP came out, things really heated up. I know for sure I wouldn't have ever bought an original DS since I knew a re-design would be coming eventually. I intend to get a DSL at launch.
I didnt say the new design wouldnt help in the US, just that it is different from whats happening in japan.
 
I didnt say the new design wouldnt help in the US, just that it is different from whats happening in japan.

Japan, remake or not it's gonna sell like hot shit. With weekly sell outs the only thing that could help the DS is stock.

In U.S.A however it will prove a nice boost to sales.
 
Jacobi said:
Nintendo 396 k
Sony 451 k
Microsoft 338 k

Ah, well. I'd be interested to see how much the GB Micro sold...but I'll never know.
Nintendo has only shipped 470K to North America through the end of December so it's not that many.


quetz67 said:
Whenever MS (or Sony or Nintendo) say sold, they mean sold to retailers, only if they say it is sold to customers there is a chance it actually is sold through.
Except in an interview they (it was either Moore or Allard, I can't remember) said it was sales to customers.


Link316 said:
nice! 1st time the PSP has outsold the GBA, even the DS hasn't been able to do that, this might be the changing of the guard
The PSP outsold the GBA from March-June of last year.


cvxfreak said:
It's been so close that numbers from other countries have become more of discussion for the two handhelds. Japan specifically, and the UK when those were available.

Is this the first time the DS has gotten this close to GBA?
It was only 17K behind the GBA in September, but this month is closer (14K).
 
nintendo thought it was a good idea to get people used to getting a DS with a game.. then they remove that option?? yes, real smart move nintendo.

bad sales everywhere.

right now japan seems like the much more important handheld videogame market to focus on in terms of sheer market value.
 
NOA really needs to put GBA down soon and succesfully supplant DS in it's place. Worldwide Nintendo seems to be holding on to ~60-80% of the handheld market everywhere but in North America that breaks down into an almost even split between GBA and DS, while everywhere else DS has basically taken over. Pokemon can't come soon enough really, I'm starting to think we won't see DS fully inhereit the American GB market until it does in early 2007.
 
NoA needs to slowly phase out the GBA if they want the DS sell at a quicker rate.

Lower the GBA shipments or drop the regular DS price to $99 a.s.a.p

if not, I could see it selling well into next year on pure value and library alone..
 
bunkum said:
GAF flamers, your welcome :lol

PS2 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 88k
PSP NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 56k
360 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 51k
XBX NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 44k
GCN NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 16k
NDS NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 10k
I'm surprised the 360 version is still selling decently.
 
bunkum said:
Game Boy Advance 172k
GameCube 66k
Nintendo DS 158k
PlayStation 2 272k
PlayStation Portable 179k
Xbox 89k
Xbox 360 249k

Glad to see the PSP > than the DS so that we can get all the sales numbers on time. I hate waiting weeks until we get all the info. :lol
 
Here is hoping sour Gamecube sales dont hurt Chibi Robo's performance in Feb ^_^

LTD for NfS:MW on DS, PSP, and Xbox360..

Need for Speed Most Wanted PSP 319k~
Need for Speed Most Wanted X360 263k~
Need for Speed Most Wanted DS 64k~

EA should be extremely happy with the performance of the PSP version.

Anyway, will we be getting GTALCS, MK:DS and the rest of the software anytime soon? Thanx
 
parathod said:
Do you think DS sales will be down next month with word of the new DS coming out or do you think casuals/children/parents are oblivious?
Considering the GBA is outselling the DS, im gonna go with #2
 
Happy to see my GBA still chugging along nicely!

NoA really loves the system it must be super profitable or something cause I saw yet again another new snackfood related ad where you can win a GBA just yesterday.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm surprised the 360 version is still selling decently.
Why is that a surprise? The game will keep selling very well until everyone who wanted a 360 on day one will finally get one. Each new shipment is basically a mini launch for all current 360 games.
 
Quite underwhelming...with the only good looking thing being the 360 considering the shortages. My guess is the 360 will finally see the *big* surge in sales it's been needing when a) there's more shipments and b) there are some good march releases for it (Ghost Recon and Battlefield 2: MC I'm looking at you :P )
 
The ps2 had its worst January since its supply constrained first January, although it is understandable that sales should go down at this stage in the life cycle, it really does need a price cut. The xbox and cube are both in the gutter. The 360 had unsurprisingly an ok month what with the severe levels of undershipping they have had so far.

The portable sales I dont think are too bad overall. The GBA alone never cracked 300K in any January, so over 500K for portables this month is strong in comparison. Although Nintendo are down compared to last year for handhelds they are still above pre-DS levels. The way things are going right now it very much looks like DS and psp are headed for xbox levels of sales overall. With GBA also down, it will be interesting to see which(if any) portable can once again garner huge sales like the GBA used to get.
 
Seems like poor PSP/DS/GBA sales to me. The gap between PSP<>DS isn't as big as I thought it would be though. PS2 is inline with what I thought, 360 I thought might do a bit more (to reach that 2.5M goal seems impossible now...at least by tracked sales). GC/Xbox = dead.

parathod said:
Do you think DS sales will be down next month with word of the new DS coming out or do you think casuals/children/parents are oblivious?
They're oblivious.

Monorojo said:
Here is hoping sour Gamecube sales dont hurt Chibi Robo's performance in Feb ^_^
They won't....Chibi Robo was never going to sell well ;)
 
Taker666 said:
The major problem (if it is a problem) in the US is they aren't getting the GBA to DS switch they have in other countries,people are still buying GBA's.

NOA is entirely to blame IMO, some really stupid decisions.

... but I thought DS was the 3rd pillar? N-fans should be happy that GBA still sells.

edit: btw, thx bunkum.
 
Barring another shortage, I think we can safely assume that the Gamecube will never, ever outsell the Xbox 360 again. (even with Zelda)
 
jedimike said:
... but I thought DS was the 3rd pillar? N-fans should be happy that GBA still sells.

edit: btw, thx bunkum.

Because GBA doesn't need anymore success. DS does. The fact of the matter is that GBA should get less focus for the reason that it's WAY old compared to the DS.
 
I firmly believe the DS will land on its two feet just fine in the states eventually. Nintendo just needs to throw out exclusive/original/innovative content for the DS. E3 should tell see Nintendo, IMO anyway, giving some surprising DS titles for all of us to play. Maybe a new franchise there or two? As I said before, Tetris/Metroid/Brain Training is an excellent way to start the first quarter of the year.
 
Speevy said:
Barring another shortage, I think we can safely assume that the Gamecube will never, ever outsell the Xbox 360 again. (even with Zelda)

How do you think the Rev will do against it? Not tryna start anything just curious as to what you thought Rev's chances were.
 
I think Nintendo wanted the 3rd pillar thing to work where DS is outsellign GBA, but GBA still sells very well...

America needs to hurry up and catch on.
 
Shaheed79 said:
How do you think the Rev will do against it? Not tryna start anything just curious as to what you thought Rev's chances were.

Initially, Nintendo hardware always sells well. The company knows how to get the word out about new hardware and rarely has supply problems.

I think the launch sales of the Revolution will be huge, and may outsell the Xbox 360. However, long-term I think the 360 will significantly outsell it. Keep in mind I'm assuming a best case scenario in my mind for the Revolution (300-500 game library, tons of innovative games, no huge dropoffs in sales).

We'll see though. I've been surprised before, but I think the Xbox 360 will be #2.

What surprises me about this thread is even in a horrible month, the 360 was the second best selling piece of hardware. How many times did the Xbox achieve that goal? None that I can recall.
 
Speevy said:
Initially, Nintendo hardware always sells well. The company knows how to get the word out about new hardware and rarely has supply problems.

I think the launch sales of the Revolution will be huge, and may outsell the Xbox 360. However, long-term I think the 360 will significantly outsell it. Keep in mind I'm assuming a best case scenario in my mind for the Revolution (300-500 game library, tons of innovative games, no huge dropoffs in sales).

We'll see though. I've been surprised before, but I think the Xbox 360 will be #2.

What surprises me about this thread is even in a horrible month, the 360 was the second best selling piece of hardware. How many times did the Xbox achieve that goal? None that I can recall.

Xbox was the best selling system a couple times.

Andy787 said:
I hope the PSP continues to outsell the DS in the West, and likewise the DS to the PSP in Japan. Hell, I hope the difference becomes even more pronounced. This way, the PSP will recieve the support it deserves.

Indeed. The PSP deserves more ports and remakes.
 
The DS has seriously raised the obnoxiousness of Nintendo fanboys to stratospheric levels.

Quoted for the F'ing Win!

Anyways, I think we need price drops soon. DS, PSP, and original Xbox should all price drop.
 
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