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Apple: Beatles on iTunes (Nov 16th)

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So I'm guessing something tragic happened to you while a Beatles song was playing Wicked? Good lord, people are going to buy these tracks. People who have them already through CD's and people buying them for the first time.

If this insults you so much why don't you just get up from your computer for a little bit and do something that you enjoy?


WickedAngel said:
Describe how the song is different now that it is downloaded from iTunes instead of ripped from a CD (Likely through iTunes).
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Holy shit dude. Are you serious? The same it is with every other release on iTunes with every other band. For one thing people can buy their favorite songs instead of the entire album. People don't have to go to the store to get them if they're discovering them for the first time.

Once again, are you serious?
 
*goes to Apple.com*

First thought: man, George Harrison was way too handsome to be hanging out with the rest of those guys!
 
WickedAngel said:
Describe how the song is different now that it is downloaded from iTunes instead of ripped from a CD (Likely through iTunes).
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the difference is that it's now possible to pay $1.30 for all 23 seconds of Her Majesty. :D

but seriously, a la carte song shopping plus convenience of being able to buy the songs from your phone, computer, ipad, whatever, is decent.
 
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WickedAngel said:
Describe how the song is different now that it is downloaded from iTunes instead of ripped from a CD (Likely through iTunes).
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I get a legal copy and don't have another CD to put on my shelf. Win/win for me I guess.
 
VGChampion said:
So I'm guessing something tragic happened to you while a Beatles song was playing Wicked? Good lord, people are going to buy these tracks. People who have them already through CD's and people buying them for the first time.

If this insults you so much why don't you just get up from your computer for a little bit and do something that you enjoy?
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Funny how this goes. Whenever someone comments on how they aren't blown away by Apple's latest PR masturbation, they're singled out and hassled until they leave.

How about the flipside? What do you stand to gain from this announcement that makes it so worth vehemently supporting? Why does it bother you so much that people aren't floored by this? I'm annoyed because I saw the announcement and thought it was something that was actually worthy of a damned announcement. Apple usually doesn't make a fuss about any particular product unless it is transformative.

This just confirms what we already know; Apple owns digital distribution for the music industry.
 
WickedAngel said:
Describe how the song is different now that it is downloaded from iTunes instead of ripped from a CD (Likely through iTunes).
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Who's moving goal posts again?

Just admit you were dead wrong please.
 
LCfiner said:
the difference is that it's now possible to pay $1.30 for all 23 seconds of Her Majesty. :D

but seriously, a la carte song shopping plus convenience of being able to buy the songs from your phone, computer, ipad, whatever, is decent.
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Yup. That's the draw. After all, the iTunes "producer" software is really just a modified copy of iTunes where you rip the CD, type in the appropriate information, and hit "submit to Apple." Quality is the same.
 
:lol @ Wicked

I just read through this entire thread. Hardly nobody - not even the supporters - is as 'blown away' by this announcement as your Noble Quest to come in here and backlash seems to suggest. And then you get all defensive and victimized for being 'hassled'. Amazing.




Also, Apple PR has nothing on the mod who hit up the thread title. Talk about leading the impressionable. That thing sent in the haters dancing their tune like the Pied Piper. Masterful.
 
WickedAngel said:
Funny how this goes. Whenever someone comments on how they aren't blown away by Apple's latest PR masturbation, they're singled out and hassled until they leave.

How about the flipside? What do you stand to gain from this announcement that makes it so worth vehemently supporting? Why does it bother you so much that people aren't floored by this?
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who's floored by this announcement in this thread?

this is the weirdest shit. it's like, no one is particularly blown away by this. but we're all just arguing about how excited other people could be. debating different shades of grey.

Man, this shit is, fuckin' ridiculous.
 
WickedAngel said:
Describe how the song is different now that it is downloaded from iTunes instead of ripped from a CD (Likely through iTunes).
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Well, if I download from iTunes I'm not left with a plastic music container I'll never touch again.
 
Mael said:
but you can sell that plastic music container!
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Are we really having a discussion about why people prefer to buy music online in 2010(almost 2011)? Shouldn't people have come to terms with this by now?

The general public prefers convenience over quality. It's a universal truth for any medium you want to discuss.
 
WickedAngel said:
Um, yes. The Beatles are available at almost every retailer in digital format. Zune Pass had them at some point too; don't know if they do now.

*Edit*

Liu beat me to it. They're still on Zune. Where do the goal posts go now?
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No, they really were never available digitally before legally.
 
WickedAngel said:
Describe how the song is different now that it is downloaded from iTunes instead of ripped from a CD (Likely through iTunes).
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Who's changing the goal posts now? You're truly an idiot.

Funny how this goes. Whenever someone comments on how they aren't blown away by Apple's latest PR masturbation, they're singled out and hassled until they leave.

How about the flipside? What do you stand to gain from this announcement that makes it so worth vehemently supporting? Why does it bother you so much that people aren't floored by this? I'm annoyed because I saw the announcement and thought it was something that was actually worthy of a damned announcement. Apple usually doesn't make a fuss about any particular product unless it is transformative.

This just confirms what we already know; Apple owns digital distribution for the music industry.
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We're neither floored nor defending it. Just not going crazy like you.
 
Was there a huge PR campaign that I somehow missed? Because what I saw was one still digital print piece, containing one admittedly hyperbolic sentence, released 24 hours before the music dropped. Did I miss out on the mass mailings and emails that some of you clearly received, or the run of commercials and webisodes that plagued the airwaves and Internet?

iTunes has been around for nine years. Apple has been trying to get the Beatles' catalog the entire time. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a dedicated team of lawyers working at nothing else. The write-ups in ITunes about the band and albums were probably first written years ago. Steve Jobs is a huge personal fan and has talked about them at press conferences. Who knows how much Apple has spent over the years to make this happen. It is the Holy Grail of the digital download library.

And yet somehow some of you are acting as if it were the most overhyped event ever. Because you are stupid.
 
LCfiner said:
Ringo's statement in the PR is fantastic :lol

“I am particularly glad to no longer be asked when the Beatles are coming to iTunes,” said Ringo Starr. “At last, if you want it—you can get it now—The Beatles from Liverpool to now! Peace and Love, Ringo.”
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Exactly, right! Not only will we never hear rumors about the Beatles on iTunes ("a day you'll never forget"), but the announcement is really a celebration of Apple (Inc.)'s continued dominance over the digital music market, not to mention the conclusion of an extended legal struggle.

Or what dyls said.
 
shantyman said:
No, they really were never available digitally before legally.
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It's apparent that you don't know what "digital" means and you have the audacity to call me an idiot?

They've never been digitally distributed but digital copies have been available for years. Enjoy the circlejerk though.
 
WickedAngel said:
It's apparent that you don't know what "digital" means and you have the audacity to call me an idiot?

They've never been digitally distributed but digital copies have been available for years. Enjoy the circlejerk though.
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Everyone here is clearly talking about digital downloads except you. Only you seemed to have missed the memo (yes, I understand that CDs are a digital format). Enjoy your meltdown dude.
 
Stormwatch said:
LOL! $149 for the digital "box set" from iTunes or $154 for the physical box set from Amazon.com. Wow, that really makes the decision hard...
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It's down to $129 now on Amazon. Red/Blue albums are like $13 instead of $20 for the lossy download, etc.
 
Tobor said:
Well, if I download from iTunes I'm not left with a plastic music container I'll never touch again.
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but you get to keep the superior lossless FLAC version forever with which you can make all the future mp3's (or whatever your favorite lossy format is) you want.

toss the case. and that's my thing, really. an mp3 will never be better than it is when you bought it. you can't bring the data cut off back. for me, the only stuff I'll buy in mp3 is the stuff I don't really care about. But all the classic albums I want or love? those are all CDs, stored in FLAC ready for sublime listening or conversion for mobile devices at a moment's notice.

it's really the only way to go forward. especially with how cheap massive amounts of external storage are now. there's no excuse for music *you care about* to not be owned in the best possible format.

maybe some of you don't see it now...but wait until you've upgraded beyond $100 headphones. difference becomes night and day.

Anyway, epic collection of albums there now. Cool for those who will discover these guys for the very first time. Especially with those 90 second previews. Everyone else should have their stuff in a superior format anyway. Party on.

Beer Monkey said:
It's down to $129 now on Amazon. Red/Blue albums are like $13 instead of $20 for the lossy download, etc.
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/thread, really.
 
dyls said:
Was there a huge PR campaign that I somehow missed? Because what I saw was one still digital print piece, containing one admittedly hyperbolic sentence, released 24 hours before the music dropped. Did I miss out on the mass mailings and emails that some of you clearly received, or the run of commercials and webisodes that plagued the airwaves and Internet?

iTunes has been around for nine years. Apple has been trying to get the Beatles' catalog the entire time. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a dedicated team of lawyers working at nothing else. The write-ups in ITunes about the band and albums were probably first written years ago. Steve Jobs is a huge personal fan and has talked about them at press conferences. Who knows how much Apple has spent over the years to make this happen. It is the Holy Grail of the digital download library.

And yet somehow some of you are acting as if it were the most overhyped event ever. Because you are stupid.
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damn, dude
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
This is like the first time since the 2007 iPhone announcement that Apple has actually hyped anything.
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Flying_Phoenix said:
Any word on new Macbook Pros?
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Apple Records-themed MBP with a full, unbitten Apple logo on the lid. Will come with all Beatles albums on a thumb drive.
 
Transition from LPs to CDs: people whine about "quality", say "only people who don't care about music buy CDs."

Transition from CDs to (legal) digital downloads: people whine about "quality", say "only people who don't care about music buy songs through iTunes."

So, in a nutshell: history repeats itself, and people are afraid of change.
 
shantyman said:
Everyone here is clearly talking about digital downloads except you. Only you seemed to have missed the memo (yes, I understand that CDs are a digital format). Enjoy your meltdown dude.
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Between the two of us, you're the one who seems to be having the meltdown. I'm not the one who is vitriolic and angry because people outside of the cult aren't happy with Apple's latest business move.

I'm sorry boss; my dick doesn't get hard at the thought of sales statistics and another billion in the bank for Steve Jobs.

I rightfully came to express my opinion that this announcement and thread were massively anti-climactic; the only reason I'm still here is that people like you keep pushing me on the issue. That's the last I'll say about it.
 
Seriously though, Apple never said this shit was "life changing". A blob just overhyped it for clicks and the forum mongers took it to a whole new level.

scorcho said:
Apple Records-themed MBP with a full, unbitten Apple logo on the lid. Will come with all Beatles albums on a thumb drive.
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Unbitten Apple logo? Day 1!

EDIT - Holy shit that's now!


Dreams-Visions said:
maybe some of you don't see it now...but wait until you've upgraded beyond $100 headphones. difference becomes night and day.
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Really? I mean you really can't see why most people wouldn't bother?

Besides most people don't give two shits about video quality (see most HDTV's not displaying HD) let alone audio quality.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
but you get to keep the superior lossless FLAC version forever with which you can make all the future mp3's (or whatever your favorite lossy format is) you want.

toss the case. and that's my thing, really. an mp3 will never be better than it is when you bought it. you can't bring the data cut off back. for me, the only stuff I'll buy in mp3 is the stuff I don't really care about. But all the classic albums I want or love? those are all CDs, stored in FLAC ready for sublime listening or conversion for mobile devices at a moment's notice.

it's really the only way to go forward. especially with how cheap massive amounts of external storage are now. there's no excuse for music *you care about* to not be owned in the best possible format.

maybe some of you don't see it now...but wait until you've upgraded beyond $100 headphones. difference becomes night and day.

Anyway, epic collection of albums there now. Cool for those who will discover these guys for the very first time. Especially with those 90 second previews. Everyone else should have their stuff in a superior format anyway. Party on.


/thread, really.
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this is actually why i don't buy from itunes. i buy from beatport because they offer wav downloads (theres others like juno who do the same). but thats only for stuff i can't get on cd, because you pay more to dl it in wav than you would to buy it on a disc.
 
Tobor said:
Are we really having a discussion about why people prefer to buy music online in 2010(almost 2011)? Shouldn't people have come to terms with this by now?

The general public prefers convenience over quality. It's a universal truth for any medium you want to discuss.
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nope you said you didn't know what to do with the plastic containers, I then replied that you could sell it.
You then go on a diatribe about how digital trumps physical or something which is totally not what I was talking about.
Heck I'm not even talking about my prefered ways of doing things, I'm mostly buying songs I hear in concerts and THEN getting signed copies of the discs myself that I then rip on my ipod for maximim convenience.
Then again that's not the discussion we're having here either.
 
Brazil said:
Transition from LPs to CDs: people whine about "quality", say "only people who don't care about quality buy CDs until DDD recording workflows become the standard"

Transition from CDs to (legal) digital downloads: people whine about "artistic integrity", say "only people who don't care about the art of the album buy songs through iTunes."
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Fixed.

Vinyl still sounds betterer.
 
Mael said:
nope you said you didn't know what to do with the plastic containers, I then replied that you could sell it.
You then go on a diatribe about how digital trumps physical or something which is totally not what I was talking about.
Heck I'm not even talking about my prefered ways of doing things, I'm mostly buying songs I hear in concerts and THEN getting signed copies of the discs myself that I then rip on my ipod for maximim convenience.
Then again that's not the discussion we're having here either.
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It's not a diatribe, it's a market reality. I feel like I'm in a time machine having this discussion.

I don't want the disc, I don't want to have to sell the disc after ripping it(which would make me a pirate anyway, right?), i don't wan't to encode in FLAC and then reencode. I want to push a button and listen to my music. On my phone, or my computer, or wherever I get the urge to buy a song. And I'm not in the minority by a longshot.
 
Tobor said:
It's not a diatribe, it's a market reality. I feel like I'm in a time machine having this discussion.

I don't want the disc, I don't want to have to sell the disc after ripping it(which would make me a pirate anyway, right?), i don't wan't to encode in FLAC and then reencode. I want to push a button and listen to my music. On my phone, or my computer, or wherever I get the urge to buy a song. And I'm not in the minority by a longshot.
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if that were true, then there would not be used cds you could buy in cash converters. you can't sell COPIES. you can sell the original disc.
 
I don't buy music from DD services, personally. CDs cost the same and I get a lossless encode and a way to recover my music in case of hdd failure.
 
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