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Apple Corps (The Beatles) and MTV to hold a press conference tomorrow! Set HYPE = MAX

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M3wThr33

Banned
stuburns said:
But to look at it from the other side, DLC doesn't sell even nearly as well as the disc versions. Aerosmith would easily have made more money doing what they did as appose to releasing it as DLC, because it would have had to be cheaper, and people wouldn't buy it all if they could choose.

The Beatles and Aerosmith are so far apart it's insane to think that they don't warrant their own stand alone release. I would say that Rock Band Beatles would outsell Rock Band 1 and 2. Together.

The Beatles are the biggest band of all time, they can still do whatever they want.
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21 million DLC songs sold in Rock Band says otherwise. Production costs, programming, etc., all take away from that pie.
 
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StuBurns

Banned
M3wThr33 said:
21 million DLC songs sold in Rock Band says otherwise. Production costs, programming, etc., all take away from that pie.
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Rock Band 1 had 58 tracks and sold 4 million units.

232 million tracks sold on disc, versus 21 million downloaded is embarrassing.
 
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duderon

rollin' in the gutter
No exclusive deals with Walmart, or any other store and I'm in. Harmonix should release this as a stand-alone disc and DLC to appease me.

stuburns said:
Rock Band 1 had 58 tracks and sold 4 million units.

232 million tracks sold on disc, versus 21 million downloaded is embarrassing.
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This doesn't make sense. You have to buy the Rock Band disc in order to play DLC. Of course it's going to sell more. A better comparison would be to GH: Aerosmith or 80s.
 
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xbhaskarx

Member
ROCK BAND WINS.

Harmonix, I have given you so much of my money... please give me:
-Norwegian Wood
-She Said She Said
-Day Tripper
-Ballad of John and Yoko
 
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StuBurns

Banned
duderon said:
This doesn't make sense. You have to buy the Rock Band disc in order to play DLC. Of course it's going to sell more. A better comparison would be to GH: Aerosmith or 80s.
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Indeed, I was just replying to comment suggesting that DLC would out perform a disc version.

There is no real comparison though. If GH: Areosmith had a disc and DLC release, then you could compare them.
 
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xbhaskarx

Member
GodMike said:
I hope this comes out as a standalone disc so I can see the GAF hypocrites laud it as the second coming after trashing the GH model of band specific discs.
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Aerosmith: trash
Beatles: gods
(I won't comment here on ACDC)

And then there's the ability to export songs into the RB platform, which hopefully a Rock Band: Beatles game will have.

TheGreatDave said:
That ship has sailed. If it has an export code that makes everything OK, apparently.
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Well, isn't that a pretty big difference? You act like it's an unimportant distinction, when I think it's obvious to anyone with common sense just how much it matters.
While GH:Aerosmith discs are gathering dust as people inevitably move on to GHWT, they will continue to play those same Beatles songs in Rock Band 2,3,4...

TheGreatDave said:
The arguement was always "what if I only want one or two songs? I have to buy the whole disc?!". An arguement people seem to have dropped now...
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Maybe because a lot of people only want a few songs from Aerosmith and ACDC.
This is the Beatles.
 
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DuckRacer

Member
Foxtastical said:
Who the shit cares if it is DLC or a disc? Just who the shit cares.

The Beatles. Rock Band. Holy hell.
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Seriously. They've never given their masters out, and for a video game, let alone Rock Band, to have that honor is huge. It also gives the series tons of credibility for when MTV approaches other prestigious bands.

Also, to the people going "lulz, platform amirite": Metallica and Aerosmith songs can easily be DLC due to their stances on licensing. AC/DC and the Beatles are a completely different ball game – if HMX didn't allow disc-only band games, we wouldn't have these bands in the game. Plus they're exportable, if I want to play Back in Black in Rock Band 3, I can. I can't play Sweet Emotion in GH World Tour.
 
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TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
stuburns said:
Rock Band 1 had 58 tracks and sold 4 million units.

232 million tracks sold on disc, versus 21 million downloaded is embarrassing.
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The band typically gets 50 cents for a DLC track and about 8 cents for a disc track, so not really.
 
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StuBurns

Banned
TAJ said:
The band gets 50 cents for a DLC track and about 8 cents for a disc track, so not really.
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Okay, well if you're right, they'll announce exclusive Beatles DLC, if I'm right they'll announce a Beatles game.

Lets see.
 
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TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Blu_LED said:
How much goes to Sony/MS, and how much does HMX keep? Do you know?
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Never found it. 30/20 seems likely based on what I know about the services, but I really don't know.
Joe Molotov said:
I'm sure the usual rates don't apply here.
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Those aren't the usual rates. 50 cents for one song is HUGE.
 
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quest

Not Banned from OT
Oh hell ya great news. I am so glad RB got the beatles instead of GH. Now if they make GH into a platform with exporting then I would not care either way. The ability for me to have a huge libary of songs thanks to exporting make the RB the platform of forever.

I am part of the problem I will be getting the ac/dc pack day 2.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
xbhaskarx said:
-Ballad of John and Yoko
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Drove from Paris to the Amsterdam Hilton, talking in our beds for a week.
The newspapers said, "Say what you doing in bed?"
I said, "We're only trying to get us some peace".
Christ you know it ain't easy, you know how hard it can be.
The way things are going, they're going to crucify me.

A real classic.
 
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ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
HOOOOOLLLLLLLYY SHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

Now that I've got that outta my system, it's time for requests.

- Come Together
- The End (I would love to play the drums on this)
- Revolution (duh)
- Helter Skelter (double duh)
- Back in the USSR
- Ticket to Ride
- Dig a Pony
- Hello Goodbye
- Penny Lane
- Hey Jude
- Sgt. Peppers Intro/Reprise
- Getting Better

Harmonix, you made me so happy today.
 
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Affeinvasion

Member
I don't mean to set a spark to what is turing out to be another GAF-denburg, but prepare to be disapointed. At the same time the Beatles have way too many good songs for people to NOT be happy.
 
Hawk269

Hawk269

Member
Oh..Yeah...This is going to be awesome...some requests...

1. Help!
2. Helter Skelter
3. Tomorrow Never Knows

My top three!
 
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RBH

Member
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So glad that I finally jumped onboard the Rock Band experience just last week. :D
 
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dude

dude
I want Abbey Road, all of it. I will make my friends play the medley again and again and again.

Affeinvasion said:
I don't mean to set a spark to what is turing out to be another GAF-denburg, but prepare to be disapointed. At the same time the Beatles have way too many good songs for people to NOT be happy.
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At the same time, they've never released their masters to anyone, this is huge, so we'll jump at whatever we got, and we'll be damned happy too.
 
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Outdoor Miner

Member
I had decided after RB2 that I was done purchasing toy instruments as the number I own is getting embarrassing... BUT if they do a standalone release of RB: Beatles and bundle an Epiphone Casino-styled guitar with it, then I'll have to go back on that promise.
 
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AMUSIX

Member
Several things:

-RB Beatles can very, very easily be a full stand-alone game, complete with career, Beatles-venues, costume pieces...this would be the "Beatles game" so to speak.

-I'd still want the tracks to be exportable :)

-AC/DC would have had my money if it was a 18 track 'best of' instead of just the Donnington performance

-PREDICTION TIME!!! (copied from the RB thread)
My Beatles 10
(in no particular order save for the first one)

Oh Darling So freaking needed. One of the hardest Beatles songs to sing, and a song with phenominal progression. This NEEDS to be included for this announcement to be considered truly complete.

While My Guitar Gently Weeps The rhythym and tempo is so freaking perfect for fills...drummers pickup overdrive and don't use it..just keep filling, and of course, such perfect guitar solo lines

Help! Iconic....this is pretty much guaranteed to be included, and has fun parts on all four instruments

Day Tripper Great guitar and bass duet track, fun, driving drums. And, hey, the tamborine is already included.

Dig a Pony Not the most popular track off of Let It Be, but such incredibly awesome licks. The opening alone makes it perfect for Rock Band. The vocals can be sung with so much feeling, the guitar so soulful (ha...wouldn't usually use that word for the Beatles).

Drive My Car Straightforward, but, again, great guitar and bass lines. BEEP BEEP, BEEP BEEP, YEAH!

I Me Mine Not a single weak instrument here. Drums are so perfectly timed, from the rolling verses to the jamming chorus. I so want this on there.

Yer Blues So fucking awesome and active. The 'Young Man Blues' of the Beatles library. Ringo allows himself to have fun here.

Getting Better The Sgt. Peppers' song that is best suited for Rock Band. Chordy, definintely, but a bass line that keeps interest up, as well as some creative drumming hidden away.

Helter Skelter Needs, needs, needs, NEEDS to be one of the tracks. FUCK THIS ONE MUST BE ON THERE. IF THIS IS NOT INCLUDED, HARMONIX IS DOING IT WRONG.

I will break my own rule here for a major exception...
Golden Slumbers An exception because I know there's no way in hell this will appear, nor is it always a great songs on all instruments, but it's one of the most incredible pieces the Beatles ever put together (I hesitate to say 'wrote' because it wasn't really composed). The entire work travels through such awesome sections...from the vocals in the beginning, to the drum solo, to the rocking section, straight up to the sudden mellow outtro of "The End".
Also: they can surprise us with "Her Majesty"
 
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malek4980

Rosa Parks hater
Unfortunately, some of the Beatles' best songs--"Across the Universe," "A Day in the Life," "I am the Walrus," "Eleanor Rigby," "Within You Without You," "Because," "Yesterday," and "Hey Jude"--are ill-suited for Rock Band. And many other songs are simply not guitar driven tracks.

Anyway, here are some songs that might work (bolded songs are almost no-brainers, though not necessarily because of their quality):


Early Days (alphabetical order)

A Hard Day's Night
Can't Buy Me Love
Eight Days a Week
Help
I Feel Fine
I’m Down
I’m a Loser
I Need You
I Want to Hold You Hand
I Saw Her Standing There
I Should Have Known Better
Love Me Do
No Reply
Please Please Me
Rock and Roll Music (not a Beatles original, but still)
She Loves You
Ticket to Ride
Twist and Shout (not a Beatles original, but still)

After "Help" (alphabetical order)

And Your Bird Can Sing
Back in the USSR
Birthday
Come Together
Day Tripper
Dig a Pony
Don’t Let Me Down
Drive My Car
Everybody’s Got Something to Hide
Get Back
Girl
Glass Onion
Got to Get You into My Life (horns dominate the song, but there’s a guitar solo at the end)
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Here Comes the Sun
Hey Bulldog
If I Needed Someone
I me Mine
I'm so Tired
In My Life
It's All Too Much
I've Got a Feeling
I Want You (She’s so Heavy)
Let it Be
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
Nowhere Man
Norwegian Wood (no drums, Ringo used finger cymbals)
Oh Darling
One After 909
Paperback Writer
Polythene Pam
Rain
Revolution
She Came in Through the Bathroom Window
She Said She Said
Something
Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
Strawberry Fields Forever
Taxman
The Ballad of John & Yoko
The End
Think For Yourself
Tomorrow Never Knows
Two of Us (no bass)
Wait
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
With a Little Help from My Friends
Yellow Submarine
Yer Blues
You Never Give Me Your Money
 
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riazor69

Neo Member
It wouldn't surprise me if the announcement today of the DLC/Standalone game includes some form of exclusivity for the XBOX 360 given the likely gargantuan licence fee Apple Corps would have demanded (which Microsoft can help with) and the propensity for the 360 versions of Rock Band to have some element of timed exclusivity.
 
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RBH

Member
7:10 -- Jeff Castaneda, MTV PR whiz, takes the line, introducing MTV's Judy McGrath.

7:11 -- Alex Rigopulos of Harmonix is also on the line. There we go.

7:12 -- McGrath is talking up the success of Rock Band 2. Calling today's partnership the "boldest move yet" for Rock Band.
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