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[RelentlessRolento]

Learn your answers and maybe use headphones. I am able to concentrate better with headphones during skype interviews.
Test your lightning before the interview.

It is pretty weird the first time, but if you are confident like in a real life interview you will be fine.

Thanks for the input. I know what I'm doing this weekend now ^_^

 

[Watevaman]

Just had my interview with the bus driving job and they offered it to me after 20 minutes. I think the interview was just to make sure I'm not a psychopath or something.


To all you guys going on without jobs, just keep at it! Two weeks ago I was jobless (since finishing school last summer) and as of today I've got two jobs. Granted, they're small time and not full blown careers but hey, they'll pay the bills. Everyone just keep your head up and exude all your confidence and you'll do great!

 

[Ogodei]

For those who landed a job after an extended period of unemployment, do you ever get paranoid? I can't seem to shake this paranoia of getting laid off again. I keep over-reading my supervisor's actions. Everything makes me think "they're going to fire me" even though I am doing the work, but when I make an error, my brain goes crazy.

I had that paranoia up to a year after i got canned unexpectedly from a job. Anytime someone with a suit would walk up to me, part of me wondered if they weren't from HR, here to swiftly escort me off-site for something i didn't even know that i did.

In sunnier news, i had a nice interview Wednesday with a department in my university who's looking to hire quickly, and they got back to me later that day saying they would get back to me about 2nd interview times. Unless they were being weirdly polite or talking out of their asses, i might have a hit here.

 

[gwailo]

What do you think guys of my situation:

I started this job almost four months ago, when I got here, I got a temporary contract that lasts four months. I learned that I was a replacement for a guy, but also I was to be trained to take the place of someone that would take a pregnancy leave.

They told me that when the contract expired they would give my a new contract, this one for indefinite duration. Usually the temporary contracts are for 3 months but I said whatever, give me a job.

So the last week RH got in contact with me, they told me that they are processing my indefinite contract. But yesterday RH got in contact again and told me that they are getting the approval and meanwhile I would get a new 1 month contract.

The lady that took maternity leave returns some time in march(near the end of march as I understand) and my new contract would end, guess when, by the end of march.

So the question in this case is: Do you guys think that I'm getting a permanent position, or are they planning to let me go when my contract ends?

Should I start looking for jobs right now?

I worked temp/contract jobs for 10 years. Almost all of the jobs were pitched as temp to hire, but none of them panned out. I very very rarely saw anyone go from temp to hire. So I learned to take any temp job as just that, a temp job. An "indefinite contract" means exactly that. They want to keep you around but also want to be able to not pay benefits and drop you whenever they see fit. If they wanted to hire you on permanently, they would do so. Keep looking for something permanent. If you get an offer, you can go back to the place you are temping with to see if they will match it.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

i look at all these jobs and i do not feel qualified for any of them, even at entry level with my degree.

 

[BannedEpisode]

i look at all these jobs and i do not feel qualified for any of them, even at entry level with my degree.

Just remember that despite what they say you will be doing or what they expect, they are going to train you and get you up to speed if hired.

 

[Pimplitosaurio]

I worked temp/contract jobs for 10 years. Almost all of the jobs were pitched as temp to hire, but none of them panned out. I very very rarely saw anyone go from temp to hire. So I learned to take any temp job as just that, a temp job. An "indefinite contract" means exactly that. They want to keep you around but also want to be able to not pay benefits and drop you whenever they see fit. If they wanted to hire you on permanently, they would do so. Keep looking for something permanent. If you get an offer, you can go back to the place you are temping with to see if they will match it.

Thanks gwalio, I'll start looking for a new job asap

 

[doorframe]

I applied to about 50 graduate schemes, got rejected by most straight away, failed a few telephone interviews and assessment centres. Thankfully I am sitting on one offer. Some of my friends are also graduating this year and they are in a right mess finding a job. Absolutely mental how tough it is.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Just remember that despite what they say you will be doing or what they expect, they are going to train you and get you up to speed if hired.

yeah i figure that's the case but seeing "you need to know x, y, z, alpha, beta, gamma technologies with 109743087 years experience for new grads" is really annoying and makes me wonder what the potential interview process will be.

 

[Pimplitosaurio]

yeah i figure that's the case but seeing "you need to know x, y, z, alpha, beta, gamma technologies with 109743087 years experience for new grads" is really annoying and makes me wonder what the potential interview process will be.

Just remember. Sometimes they are just throwing shit to the wall and hoping something sticks. I've been to interviews where I knew nothing of what they wanted and still got the job(well, I know SQL, but only the basics. But guess what? We used some pre-made scripts in SQL and we NEVER touched any queries)

Trust me, if it says "new grads" and you are a new grad, apply. When they ask if you know X or Y tell the truth and that you are a fast learner or whatever


good luck

 

[cpp_is_king]

yeah i figure that's the case but seeing "you need to know x, y, z, alpha, beta, gamma technologies with 109743087 years experience for new grads" is really annoying and makes me wonder what the potential interview process will be.

It's literally bullshit. Back around y2k there was a new programming language that had just come out called C#. It's a huge mainstream language now with a major following, but back then it was brand new. You'd see job postings with people saying "5+ years of experience in C#". It was like what? It literally was impossible.

So just apply, it doesn't matter.

 

[entremet]

It's literally bullshit. Back around y2k there was a new programming language that had just come out called C#. It's a huge mainstream language now with a major following, but back then it was brand new. You'd see job postings with people saying "5+ years of experience in C#". It was like what? It literally was impossible.

So just apply, it doesn't matter.

Yeah.

Don't let experience requirements stop you.

 

[AgentP]

As a manager of an engineering group who does the hiring, here are some tips.

1. Don't pad your resume. I can't count the amount of people who put C++ and don't know the first thing.

2. Don't have a new job every 1-2 years on your resume. That is a warning signal.

3. Don't tailor your resume to look like the job description.

4. Don't pretend to now an answer at the interview, you can say you don't know after exhausting your knowledge on the subject.

 

[Syphon Filter]

As a manager of an engineering group who does the hiring, here are some tips.

1. Don't pad your resume. I can't count the amount of people who put C++ and don't know the first thing.

2. Don't have a new job every 1-2 years on your resume. That is a warning signal.

3. Don't tailor your resume to look like the job description.

4. Don't pretend to now an answer at the interview, you can say you don't know after exhausting your knowledge on the subject.

what about freelance?

 

[Roland_Gunner]

As a manager of an engineering group who does the hiring, here are some tips.

3. Don't tailor your resume to look like the job description.

For this one I think it really depends on the level of the job. In more entry level positions its not uncommon for a HR person to literally just do a find for a couple of key words and discard any resumes that don't have them. More senior jobs are going to have fewer applicants so each one gets more attention.

 

[NeonBlack]

3. Don't tailor your resume to look like the job description.

Strange, I've been told to tailor my resume multiple times.

 

[Septimus Prime]

4. Don't pretend to now an answer at the interview, you can say you don't know after exhausting your knowledge on the subject.

We actually slipped a question into our interview where it would be impossible for you to know the answer, just to see how applicants answer it.

Very few people can admit they don't know something.

 

[ChaoticBlue]

I worked temp/contract jobs for 10 years. Almost all of the jobs were pitched as temp to hire, but none of them panned out. I very very rarely saw anyone go from temp to hire. So I learned to take any temp job as just that, a temp job. An "indefinite contract" means exactly that. They want to keep you around but also want to be able to not pay benefits and drop you whenever they see fit. If they wanted to hire you on permanently, they would do so. Keep looking for something permanent. If you get an offer, you can go back to the place you are temping with to see if they will match it.

damn 10 years? why couldn't you land a permanent position?

Anyway the third recruiter called from the same staffing company this week. I was really annoyed at having to answer the same questions again regarding my job preferences, pay and qualifications. As for the pay rate I'm looking for, I said "you're my recruiter so try to get me the highest pay rate."

I told her to look at my resume and come back at me once she has a opportunity for me. I swear man, you have my resume and you keep asking me questions about my last position.

I hope I didn't come too hard at her.

 

[Gudetama]

If a company hasn't contacted me in a week after I did a phone interview that's a no, isn't it :|

I wish they would just tell me no if they decided against moving me to the next stage.

 

[ChaoticBlue]

If a company hasn't contacted me in a week after I did a phone interview that's a no, isn't it :|

I wish they would just tell me no if they decided against moving me to the next stage.

you probably didn't get the interview but did you contact them?

If a company has interest in you they would have reach out to you the next day or two. time to move on.

 

[Syphon Filter]

If a company hasn't contacted me in a week after I did a phone interview that's a no, isn't it :|

I wish they would just tell me no if they decided against moving me to the next stage.

Not really, I waited 2 weeks for one and then called and the next day I got a 2nd round interview. Try calling them for an update, enough time passed.

 

[entremet]

Strange, I've been told to tailor my resume multiple times.

There is no set rule honestly.

That's that makes job searching a bit frustrating. There's a human component that's always present. It's not a black box.

The poster you replied is talking about his preferences as a hiring manager. Hiring managers are people. People have preferences.

This is why you always have to adjust your strategies. Redo resumes, try different job boards, network, etc.

 

[Makai]

It's literally bullshit. Back around y2k there was a new programming language that had just come out called C#. It's a huge mainstream language now with a major following, but back then it was brand new. You'd see job postings with people saying "5+ years of experience in C#". It was like what? It literally was impossible.

So just apply, it doesn't matter.

Current version of this would be 5 years Swift

 

[Roland_Gunner]

If a company hasn't contacted me in a week after I did a phone interview that's a no, isn't it :|

I wish they would just tell me no if they decided against moving me to the next stage.

I got my current job three months after interviewing! Turns out after the first round a big new account fell through so they put the position on hold. Later they got some new business and reached out to me rather than start the process up again.

No matter what happened you should follow up with the recruiter. There may just be a better candidate they're focused on but following up shows you're interested and people notice that stuff.

 

[entremet]

Most managers write terrible job specs. A lot of it is just boilerplate business speak jargon.

My favorite is liaise.

I mean, what?

Yes, I know what it means, but just irks. me.

 

[CreepingFear]

Yesterday, I had the 12 person interview. I was nervous and stiff, but I loosened up after a while. I gave myself a 50/50 chance. Today I got a call saying that I passed and to expect an offer on Monday after a background check. So as long as the offer is decent, it's mine to take. I will get medical, dental, vision, 401k, they pay for IT certs and continuing education, and 2 weeks vacation etc. acrewed.

 

[gwailo]

damn 10 years? why couldn't you land a permanent position?

Anyway the third recruiter called from the same staffing company this week. I was really annoyed at having to answer the same questions again regarding my job preferences, pay and qualifications. As for the pay rate I'm looking for, I said "you're my recruiter so try to get me the highest pay rate."

I told her to look at my resume and come back at me once she has a opportunity for me. I swear man, you have my resume and you keep asking me questions about my last position.

I hope I didn't come too hard at her.

No I don't think so. Having to deal with multiple people was a big part of the reason I wanted to get out of temp work. I had a really good recruiter who got me jobs right away, most of them with Target corporate (about 5 years total), but after she left, I was dealing with different people weekly, most of them being basically salespeople trying to make quotas and not really giving a shit about you, thus they will throw crap positions like call center at you.

As for why I did it for so long, there is a sort of freedom to it. You don't have to participate in company culture and as long as you can prove you're competent (which is not that hard) you generally get left alone by managers. Clock in, clock out. It was okay when I was single but not really anymore with a family to help support.

 

[JeTmAn81]

Current version of this would be 5 years Swift

Pls I need 3 years experience in ES2016 3 years minimum

 

[RatCupcake]

If a company hasn't contacted me in a week after I did a phone interview that's a no, isn't it :|

I wish they would just tell me no if they decided against moving me to the next stage.

It might not be a no. I waited for three weeks for an answer after having a face-to-face interview. I feel your pain though. If a company doesn't want me I'd rather them tell me as soon as possible so that I can move on and find something else. It's horrible when you have to wait for a response for a long period of time

 

[Fury Sense]

Okay, it's been 2 weeks since I got the job and finally I am sitting down to write about my experience

70 Applications
25 Rejections
10 Phone Interviews (includes additional rounds)
4 On-site Interviews
1 Offer

Over the course of 4 weeks from January 11 to February 4th I searched and applied for jobs pretty much full time, 30+ hours per week. I'm still getting rejections and (less frequently) interview requests.

Resume

• Look at your resume from the recruiters point of view; do your job experiences align with the ideal candidate? Can you tweak your job titles and descriptions to better fit the role?
• Don't be overqualified - Sometimes it helps to be more realistic than embellished on your resume

Applying:

• I averaged 1 application ever 40 minutes.
• The more recently the job was posted, the more likely to hear back from them.
• 1 Internal referral is worth 15 cold applications

Interviewing

• For any skill, have a succinct story that exemplifies it
• Honest questions are more likely to impress the interviewer than be inappropriate
• Large companies want specialists, small companies want adaptability

Mindset

• Long periods of 0 progress will happen to you. Be resilient.
• Want every job. If they want to talk to you, you convince yourself that you want that job more than any other
• You are just as good as any candidate, probably better, honestly.

Networking/Referrals

• When someone refers you, you don't apply through the website or write a cover letter (typically). This is the absolute best way to get in touch with the recruiter or hiring decision maker.
• Go to meetups (www.meetup.com) and events (www.eventbrite.com)
• Help others and they'll help you -- or just be nice and they will
• All of my referrals led to interviews
• Find people who currently have the job you want and ask for advice!

 

[Ambitious]

Just found this thread. Is it okay to ask for feedback about my resume in here? (just the style of it; I haven't finalized the content yet)

Here's an anonymized version: Page 1, Page 2

A few thoughts:

• Yeah, I wasn't able to fit it on one page. From what I was able to figure out, some hiring managers might be bothered by this, but most likely won't.
• Do you think there's too much bold? I've bolded both job title and company name, and both educational degree and the corresponding school/uni.
• I used cursive text to add context to my degrees (e.g. Summa cum laude). I was thinking about removing that formatting, but then there's no visual distinction between the highscool department and the Summa cum laude part. I could put the department in parentheses behind the school's name, but as the name is quite long, there'd be a line break. Doesn't look too bad, though. I'm not sure. (If I just made the left column smaller instead, there's be a line break in the date range of the IT Support job)
• I think I should shrinken the first part with the personal details and the header a bit.
• Regarding page 2: The whole thing was a bit too vertical for my taste, so I used a two-column layout for the lists other than the programming language list.
• The Databases and Further Technologies sections should be a bit easier to read, I think. I need to make the group names (e.g. SQL, VCS) stick out more. Maybe (vertical) sublists for the technologies?

As a manager of an engineering group who does the hiring, here are some tips.

1. Don't pad your resume. I can't count the amount of people who put C++ and don't know the first thing.

2. Don't have a new job every 1-2 years on your resume. That is a warning signal.

3. Don't tailor your resume to look like the job description.

4. Don't pretend to now an answer at the interview, you can say you don't know after exhausting your knowledge on the subject.

If someone includes a programming language in his resume, what kind of level of proficiency do you expect? I've separated mine into three groups: Most Experience, Limited Experience and Basic Knowledge. But for several of them, I'm still flip-flopping all the time in which group to put them. I don't want to undersell nor oversell myself.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Okay, it's been 2 weeks since I got the job and finally I am sitting down to write about my experience

70 Applications
25 Rejections
10 Phone Interviews (includes additional rounds)
4 On-site Interviews
1 Offer

Over the course of 4 weeks from January 11 to February 4th I searched and applied for jobs pretty much full time, 30+ hours per week. I'm still getting rejections and (less frequently) interview requests.

Resume

• Look at your resume from the recruiters point of view; do your job experiences align with the ideal candidate? Can you tweak your job titles and descriptions to better fit the role?
• Don't be overqualified - Sometimes it helps to be more realistic than embellished on your resume

Applying:

• I averaged 1 application ever 40 minutes.
• The more recently the job was posted, the more likely to hear back from them.
• 1 Internal referral is worth 15 cold applications

Interviewing

• For any skill, have a succinct story that exemplifies it
• Honest questions are more likely to impress the interviewer than be inappropriate
• Large companies want specialists, small companies want adaptability

Mindset

• Long periods of 0 progress will happen to you. Be resilient.
• Want every job. If they want to talk to you, you convince yourself that you want that job more than any other
• You are just as good as any candidate, probably better, honestly.

Networking/Referrals

• When someone refers you, you don't apply through the website or write a cover letter (typically). This is the absolute best way to get in touch with the recruiter or hiring decision maker.
• Go to meetups (www.meetup.com) and events (www.eventbrite.com)
• Help others and they'll help you -- or just be nice and they will
• All of my referrals led to interviews
• Find people who currently have the job you want and ask for advice!

Great points in here. Especially the one of looking at your resume through the eyes of the recruiter.

 

[Cyrillus]

Hey GAF,

My current job is wreaking havoc on my mental and physical state, and I am just so done with dealing with the stress of this position. I've started looking for a new job (while keeping the current job, I can't survive without a paycheck), but I'm curious about what's considered appropriate in the corporate world, since this is the first job I've held for more than 18 months. Part of the reason I've kept this job as long as I have is so that I can look better to future employers and not be seen as a "job hopper". My current job of being on-call 24/7 every 3rd week, while also being expected to answer phone calls/emails after hours even when not on-call, coupled with the continual increase in my responsibilities while not getting more than the mandated cost of living increase and having a promotion dangled in front of my face for 2+ years, has just worn on me, and I'm in a bad place physically and mentally because of it.

At this point I'm planning on giving a two-week notice to my current job, and telling any prospective jobs that I can start in two weeks, because I need to give my current position proper notice. I'm assuming this is still considered prudent? I know my last co-worker who left gave 4-weeks notice, and my boss still gave him flak for "screwing us by leaving us without notice." I've not been in the job search market for awhile, so maybe my thoughts are out-dated, but are companies actually willing to hire someone 4+ weeks from the offer date?

Also, while I don't plan to disparage my current employer to new employers in interviews (my current plan is simply to say that I'm moving on to other opportunities due to lack of growth potential at my current job, which is true), should I be similarly tight-lipped with my current employer in order to avoid burning bridges? I kind of want to tell them that their poor management decisions and piling on of one particular department are my main reasons for leaving (in as non-insulting a way as possible), but I think it may be better if I just lie to them or simply tell them I can't take the stress of the position.

Sorry for the wall of text, this sort of turned into a rant.

 

[Makai]

Hey GAF,

My current job is wreaking havoc on my mental and physical state, and I am just so done with dealing with the stress of this position. I've started looking for a new job (while keeping the current job, I can't survive without a paycheck), but I'm curious about what's considered appropriate in the corporate world, since this is the first job I've held for more than 18 months. Part of the reason I've kept this job as long as I have is so that I can look better to future employers and not be seen as a "job hopper". My current job of being on-call 24/7 every 3rd week, while also being expected to answer phone calls/emails after hours even when not on-call, coupled with the continual increase in my responsibilities while not getting more than the mandated cost of living increase and having a promotion dangled in front of my face for 2+ years, has just worn on me, and I'm in a bad place physically and mentally because of it.

At this point I'm planning on giving a two-week notice to my current job, and telling any prospective jobs that I can start in two weeks, because I need to give my current position proper notice. I'm assuming this is still considered prudent? I know my last co-worker who left gave 4-weeks notice, and my boss still gave him flak for "screwing us by leaving us without notice." I've not been in the job search market for awhile, so maybe my thoughts are out-dated, but are companies actually willing to hire someone 4+ weeks from the offer date?

Also, while I don't plan to disparage my current employer to new employers in interviews (my current plan is simply to say that I'm moving on to other opportunities due to lack of growth potential at my current job, which is true), should I be similarly tight-lipped with my current employer in order to avoid burning bridges? I kind of want to tell them that their poor management decisions and piling on of one particular department are my main reasons for leaving (in as non-insulting a way as possible), but I think it may be better if I just lie to them or simply tell them I can't take the stress of the position.

Sorry for the wall of text, this sort of turned into a rant.

Job hoppers make more money. Leave when there is a better opportunity. People say job hoppers are unattractive to employers, but I've never seen any numbers backing that up. I assume it's a myth propogated by those who benefit from depressed wages.

2-weeks notice is a just courtesy and there's not much your past employer can do if they want you for longer but won't pay for it. If you have a good job lined up and they need you immediately, just leave with short notice.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Job hoppers make more money. Leave when there is a better opportunity. People say job hoppers are unattractive to employers, but I've never seen any numbers backing that up. I assume it's a myth propogated by those who benefit from depressed wages.

2-weeks notice is a just courtesy and there's not much your past employer can do if they want you for longer but won't pay for it. If you have a good job lined up and they need you immediately, just leave with short notice.

I once rejected a candidate who had changed jobs 6 times in 2 years, but at that point something else is going on. Once a year or so, if there is a sustained pattern over 5-10 years, could be a bad thing. But otherwise I think it's pretty normal for people to change jobs early in their career to get more money.

As a point of reference, I've been in the industry for about 16 years, and I've had 8 jobs. And of course that includes some periods where I changed jobs more frequently than every 2 years, and some where I've changed jobs less frequently. Tenures have definitely gotten longer as I've gotten older.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Okay, it's been 2 weeks since I got the job and finally I am sitting down to write about my experience

70 Applications
25 Rejections
10 Phone Interviews (includes additional rounds)
4 On-site Interviews
1 Offer

Over the course of 4 weeks from January 11 to February 4th I searched and applied for jobs pretty much full time, 30+ hours per week. I'm still getting rejections and (less frequently) interview requests.

Resume

• Look at your resume from the recruiters point of view; do your job experiences align with the ideal candidate? Can you tweak your job titles and descriptions to better fit the role?
• Don't be overqualified - Sometimes it helps to be more realistic than embellished on your resume

Applying:

• I averaged 1 application ever 40 minutes.
• The more recently the job was posted, the more likely to hear back from them.
• 1 Internal referral is worth 15 cold applications

Interviewing

• For any skill, have a succinct story that exemplifies it
• Honest questions are more likely to impress the interviewer than be inappropriate
• Large companies want specialists, small companies want adaptability

Mindset

• Long periods of 0 progress will happen to you. Be resilient.
• Want every job. If they want to talk to you, you convince yourself that you want that job more than any other
• You are just as good as any candidate, probably better, honestly.

Networking/Referrals

• When someone refers you, you don't apply through the website or write a cover letter (typically). This is the absolute best way to get in touch with the recruiter or hiring decision maker.
• Go to meetups (www.meetup.com) and events (www.eventbrite.com)
• Help others and they'll help you -- or just be nice and they will
• All of my referrals led to interviews
• Find people who currently have the job you want and ask for advice!

All great advice. I'll just reiterate the point about Interviewing. The interview is make or break. If you're going for a non-technical position, then I honestly think unless you're vastly underqualified, it's going to come down to who the interviewer "likes" the best.

My wife had been searching for a job for 2+ years. She has an Bachelor's in Business Administration, so basically she was looking for some kind of office jobs. She probably had 40 interviews, sent out hundreds and hundreds of resumes. But she refused my help because she thought I was an asshole with the way I would give her advice and tell her to make changes to her resume.

So anyway she gets an interview for a company that does residential construction and remodeling, really high end stuff for ultra rich people. So finally she says I can help her. We sit down and go over the job requirements for a while, and really dive into what type of work she's going to be doing. Then I helped her come up with a list of questions. It was literally a brainstorming session. It was a long time ago, but some specific stuff I remember was:

* Will I be managing the projects myself, or will I be an assistant or have an assistant?
* Will I be working with clients directly, or does someone else do that?
* Will I be visiting project sites directly?
* How many projects a month do you usually see?
* Are all the projects in <insert city>, or are there any in surrounding areas?

And boom, she got the job. She's been there a long time now and she later found out that the reason she got chosen over the 20+ other candidates that got interviewed is because she showed the most enthusiasm for the job and nobody else had really thought about the position as much as she had.

If you just show up and answer some questions about your strengths and weaknesses, you've done nothing to propel yourself past the rest of the people who are applying.

 

[Ogodei]

Got a call from a job in Baltimore, and they want to set me up for an in-person (about 6 hours away, so i'd have to miss a day's work).

Waiting for an email on them to confirm the time, and waiting on an email from the interview last week who seemed like they'd get back quickly. But i was probably early on their slate of interviews so they still might be going through the list.

Waiting for emails is painful, even when you have a job to occupy the time.

 

[Makai]

Has anyone heard of Vettery? Normally, I get messages from individual recruiters, but this is a...recruiter startup? Huh?

 

[johnny956]

I once rejected a candidate who had changed jobs 6 times in 2 years, but at that point something else is going on. Once a year or so, if there is a sustained pattern over 5-10 years, could be a bad thing. But otherwise I think it's pretty normal for people to change jobs early in their career to get more money.

As a point of reference, I've been in the industry for about 16 years, and I've had 8 jobs. And of course that includes some periods where I changed jobs more frequently than every 2 years, and some where I've changed jobs less frequently. Tenures have definitely gotten longer as I've gotten older.

Yea 6 times in 2 years seems excessive. In 12 years I'm starting my 5th job and my 4th was my longest one so far. My last two were lateral moves but substantial pay increase. I generally recommend it. Not once has my previous company offered anything close to matching the job offer

 

[Google]

I once rejected a candidate who had changed jobs 6 times in 2 years, but at that point something else is going on. Once a year or so, if there is a sustained pattern over 5-10 years, could be a bad thing. But otherwise I think it's pretty normal for people to change jobs early in their career to get more money.

I want to concur with this statement. If I see someone has had multiple jobs in a period of time that I think requires questioning, I'll question them and if things go further, check references on that point.

Outside of that, if you're hiring people under 30 and they've had five jobs since they left college, it's nothing to be worried about.

On the contrary, if I'm hiring someone in their early 30's and they've only had one job the question becomes, "How well will you adapt to a new place, people, process, commute, etc when you've only known one place for your adult life?"

and that scares me more than someone leaving because they're not a good fit and want to find something better.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Got an interview tomorrow morning for a part-time private tutoring position aimed at teaching medical students.
They have high expectations from the applicants but fortunately my grades are pristine, my resumé is looking good and i've already got substantial classroom teaching experience.

I'm not really that invested in the position yet, just thought i'd give it a shot seeing as the pay is nearly double of what my other two side-jobs pay me and I think teaching experience is a valuable asset in the long-term. And seeing as it would only be a few hours a week, I think I can handle a third job.

 

[RelentlessRolento]

Wooh! Did a Skype job interview and feel really good about it I'm basically everything they want plus I get to basically bend the department to my practice if I get the job ( professor of digital media in the arts ).

Thx for the help for those posted tips in this thread.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Went in today to a job so I and the employer can see if this is a job I want to do. It was at a gymnastics academy where I was watching over children and making sure they're not hurting each other and show them how to do their exercises properly. I felt a bit awkward like I didn't know if it was okay to touch someone else's child or not to help them up or show them how to do the particular exercise.

I found out that the job pays only $8 an hour. My mother thinks I shouldn't take it because it's out of town and I'd have to take four buses each morning and walk three blocks to get there since the bus doesn't go out that far. I haven't had a job in almost a year though and like last year she said I had until March to get a job or she's kicking me out the house.

I wouldn't take it myself considering I'd have to go through all that, but I don't see much of a choice.

 

[Makai]

Did an online coding test. Finished the two questions quickly but spent the entire time trying to hook into their unit test API. Didn't figure it out until the second question and ailed the first question because of it. Emailed the guy the correct solution afterward.

 

[Makai]

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/LWC-Inc./jobs/Net-Developer-4a6095bce665d751?q=c#

Any New York programmers here? If you have 7+ years experience, you can make as much as $45 a day!

 

[Makai]

Also, a job with half of the application cut off

http://jobs.inforeem.com/index.php?m=portal&a=apply&jobOrderID=7029510&ref=indeed

Plenty of irony in tech jobs.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Alright gaf what should I do or did I already fucked up... (I dont think I did nothing wrong yet)

I posted once in here about a recruiter contacting me on LinkedIN and this is true. The recruiter was internal and contacted me saying,

(This was 2 and half weeks ago)

social media role

Hi MELLO,

I came across your information on Linked in and wanted to reach out to you about a couple of social media roles based in our Milwaukee office. One would be responsible for developing and managing content across social media platforms and channels and will be a key part in leveraging content for our core brand and sister publications.

I really liked you background and thought that you or someone you know would be interested in hearing about the role.

Please feel free to contact me. I look forward to hearing from you and to speaking with you.

best,
RECRUITER

Now I replied and pretty much saying yeah im interested whats the details..

He replies again, says send to his work email address as messages get lost on linkedin or whatever.

I send him one to his email then he replies with a word document of the description and im like hell yeah I want this job. I tell him that (of course not exactly that) and he says we can arrange a phonechat on monday that friday Feb 4th. I email him back like, "cool" and give him my number. So monday comes no email no call no nothing... I give it a few days and still nothing.

So now im like damn wtf happened.. So I browse Linkedin and comes across the Human Resources director for "magazine company" I inmail her like "whats going on should I get in contact with someone else" and shes like she will check on the recruiter because maybe he wasnt in the office and she will get in touch with me next week friday as she wont be in the office until them (The fuck??).. (We still in the 2nd week so the third week friday)

So I let the week go by and then its friday and then (this past weekend) and now monday and she didnt contact me yet to touch bases on the situation.. Now its tuesday at 4 am (Week 4) and Im just losing hope and thinking they contacted me by accident or idk.. they dont want me? But based on what we had no phone interview yet. I dont know what to do or what should I do I emailed the recruiter a couple times the past weeks he probably ignore my emails.

Anyways should I go up to the offices and be like aye!! I just wanted to know if thos job is still open or whatever.. Because I am still highly interested..?? Idk what you say gaf?

Funny they wanted to talk of the job and maybe the person didnt leave yet but the job is still being done on the social media spots for the provided job description. PM me if you want to know the job just not gonna put it out here yet. Its in Milwaukee though and they have offices in New York.

 

[mrklaw]

If someone includes a programming language in his resume, what kind of level of proficiency do you expect? I've separated mine into three groups: Most Experience, Limited Experience and Basic Knowledge. But for several of them, I'm still flip-flopping all the time in which group to put them. I don't want to undersell nor oversell myself.

don't do that. Either just spread your experience throughout your resume as part of examples of when it was used, or list it in one place. Leave out anything you have basic knowledge in (like office etc) unless it is specifically called out in the job listing.

You will have an idea from the job listing whether you have enough experience - is it 'essential' (lots of experience) or 'desirable' (can probably get away with learning on the job. So filter yourself, don't downplay experience on a resume.

 

[Bold One]

Alright gaf what should I do or did I already fucked up... (I dont think I did nothing wrong yet)

I posted once in here about a recruiter contacting me on LinkedIN and this is true. The recruiter was internal and contacted me saying,

(This was 2 and half weeks ago)



Now I replied and pretty much saying yeah im interested whats the details..

He replies again, says send to his work email address as messages get lost on linkedin or whatever.

I send him one to his email then he replies with a word document of the description and im like hell yeah I want this job. I tell him that (of course not exactly that) and he says we can arrange a phonechat on monday that friday Feb 4th. I email him back like, "cool" and give him my number. So monday comes no email no call no nothing... I give it a few days and still nothing.

So now im like damn wtf happened.. So I browse Linkedin and comes across the Human Resources director for "magazine company" I inmail her like "whats going on should I get in contact with someone else" and shes like she will check on the recruiter because maybe he wasnt in the office and she will get in touch with me next week friday as she wont be in the office until them (The fuck??).. (We still in the 2nd week so the third week friday)

So I let the week go by and then its friday and then (this past weekend) and now monday and she didnt contact me yet to touch bases on the situation.. Now its tuesday at 4 am (Week 4) and Im just losing hope and thinking they contacted me by accident or idk.. they dont want me? But based on what we had no phone interview yet. I dont know what to do or what should I do I emailed the recruiter a couple times the past weeks he probably ignore my emails.

Anyways should I go up to the offices and be like aye!! I just wanted to know if thos job is still open or whatever.. Because I am still highly interested..?? Idk what you say gaf?

Funny they wanted to talk of the job and maybe the person didnt leave yet but the job is still being done on the social media spots for the provided job description. PM me if you want to know the job just not gonna put it out here yet. Its in Milwaukee though and they have offices in New York.

I dont think turning up at their offices is the best idea,

I have had this happen to me many times, people contact you on LinkedIn or call you up about a position, get you excited and then ghost you hard

its part of it now unfortunately, a brief contact at first instance is not an offer, its barely an enquiry

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I dont think turning up at their offices is the best idea,

I have had this happen to me many times, people contact you on LinkedIn or call you up about a position, get you excited and then ghost you hard

its part of it now unfortunately, a brief contact at first instance is not an offer, its barely an enquiry

Damn oh well..