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Are shorter men more insecure and unattractive?

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I was just going to say the only thing that sucks about being short and skinny is trying to find clothes.

I make do with 28 size pants, when I can find them. I often have to have them hemmed for length though. For dress shirts if I get modern/slim fit I can go with 14 1/2 or whatever the smallest is and they fit alright. Regular shirts and stuff, depending on the brand, I either get S, XS or youth large.

Suits however, is where everything falls apart. I think the smallest I've ever seen in a store is a 36R and I need a 34 or 32S. Probably going to have to get some custom or massively tailored.
 
MWS Natural said:
I'm short and have no problem with the ladies, more about confidence than anything. Taller guys do have an advantage being that they have access to taller women.
Same here. Never had too many problems.
 
First boyfriend was the same height as me, which meant depending on what shoes I wore, I was taller. Didn't care. I think it's more of an issue if you're short, skinny and shy. Whether it's biological or a cultural driven attitude, I find women tend to prefer a guy who seems like he could defend her when the time need be. This doesn't have to be purely physical either, which explains why confidence will usually win out. (And why some women end up with douchebags, bravado can be a good thing though.)
 
CrazyDude said:
Then think of it as a blessing. You are not wasting months with a shallow person.

It's an evolutionary trait. Women prefer taller men because it conveys healthiness and a strong immune system, desirable characteristics for offspring.
 
InsertNameHere said:
I was just going to say the only thing that sucks about being short and skinny is trying to find clothes.

I make do with 28 size pants, when I can find them. I often have to have them hemmed for length though. For dress shirts if I get modern/slim fit I can go with 14 1/2 or whatever the smallest is and they fit alright. Regular shirts and stuff, depending on the brand, I either get S, XS or youth large.

Suits however, is where everything falls apart. I think the smallest I've ever seen in a store is a 36R and I need a 34 or 32S. Probably going to have to get some custom or massively tailored.

Yep. They don't make anything out there that I would be happy to wear without extensive fitting. The best way to circumvent this is to get a custom tailored suit made. Back when I was in HS and before I really knew how to dress well I must of looked like a clown.
 
my wife is taller than me, AND she likes to wear high heels when we are out.

i love it.

i love the looks of utter confusion and surprise on people's faces:

"why is she...?"

"how did he manage?"

etc.

its pretty cool.
 
I think most men consistently prefer shorter women in the same way that women prefer taller men. All things being equal, women tend to be shorter than men anyway. Most people don't sit around thinking too much about their height so it usually isn't a real issue unless you are a woman who is much taller than most guys so no, I don't agree with the assertion in the thread title because height is relative to those around you (i.e, 6'5 isn't tall if everyone is 6'5) The reason it can be hard for short guys is because there is a good chunk of short women who won't date a guy who is "short," even if he is in fact taller than her.

Pour examplé, I used to work with a girl who is 4'11 and one day after some light on the job flirting, she gave me a long look up and down and asked me how tall I was. I said, 5'11, why are you asking? She said, yeah, you're cute, but you're too short for me. I'm about a foot taller than this girl so I couldn't understand what she expected - I'd never been called short prior to that so it kinda blew my mind. I'm slightly above average in height and it wasn't enough for this girl, so I can only imagine that shorter guys have it a little tougher than taller guys both ways because some short girls simply aren't interested in "short" guys. I can understand a girl not wanting to date a guy shorter than her (and vice versa for men) but I can't understand a short girl being so dismissive of a "short" guy who is taller than her.

InsertNameHere said:
I was just going to say the only thing that sucks about being short and skinny is trying to find clothes.

I make do with 28 size pants, when I can find them. I often have to have them hemmed for length though. For dress shirts if I get modern/slim fit I can go with 14 1/2 or whatever the smallest is and they fit alright. Regular shirts and stuff, depending on the brand, I either get S, XS or youth large.

Suits however, is where everything falls apart. I think the smallest I've ever seen in a store is a 36R and I need a 34 or 32S. Probably going to have to get some custom or massively tailored.

Do you live in the US? You should shop at European or Asian based stores if you want clothes that fit you well.
 
DoctorWho said:
I can imagine but weight can be controlled with exercise. There's not much you can do about height besides improve your posture and even then, the results are negligible.

Gattaca style. We have to break our legs and then we'll grow maybe 2 inches.
 
B!TCH said:
I think most men consistently prefer shorter women in the same way that women prefer taller men. All things being equal, women tend to be shorter than men anyway. Most people don't sit around thinking too much about their height so it usually isn't a real issue unless you are a woman who is much taller than most guys so no, I don't agree with the assertion in the thread title because height is relative to those around you (i.e, 6'5 isn't tall if everyone is 6'5) The reason it can be hard for short guys is because there is a good chunk of short women who won't date a guy who is "short," even if he is in fact taller than her.

Pour examplé, I used to work with a girl who is 4'11 and one day after some light on the job flirting, she gave me a long look up and down and asked me how tall I was. I said, 5'11, why are you asking? She said, yeah, you're cute, but you're too short for me. I'm about a foot taller than this girl so I couldn't understand what she expected - I'd never been called short prior to that so it kinda blew my mind. I'm slightly above average in height and it wasn't enough for this girl, so I can only imagine that shorter guys have it a little tougher than taller guys both ways because some short girls simply aren't interested in "short" guys. I can understand a girl not wanting to date a guy shorter than her (and vice versa for men) but I can't understand a short girl being so dismissive of a "short" guy who is taller than her.
This pretty much sums up everything.

:lol at that shallow girl. 5'11 is short? Yikes.
 
B!TCH said:
Pour examplé, I used to work with a girl who is 4'11 and one day after some light on the job flirting, she gave me a long look up and down and asked me how tall I was. I said, 5'11, why are you asking? She said, yeah, you're cute, but you're too short for me. I'm about a foot taller than this girl so I couldn't understand what she expected - I'd never been called short prior to that so it kinda blew my mind. I'm slightly above average in height and it wasn't enough for this girl, so I can only imagine that shorter guys have it a little tougher than taller guys both ways because some short girls simply aren't interested in "short" guys. I can understand a girl not wanting to date a guy shorter than her (and vice versa for men) but I can't understand a short girl being so dismissive of a "short" guy who is taller than her.
That is some crazy stupid shit. Anyhow, 5 ft. 7 in. here. I'm Asian, so there are SE Asian people shorter than me so I don't really care. I've never thought about my height til I relocated to the Midwest where most white girls are my height or taller. It doesn't affect my confidence in any way, but it does feel weird.

Other than that, as InsertNameHere said, the only real issue for me is clothing. I have to wear size small shirts, 30 inch waistline pants, so all my jeans and so forth have to be slim fit/skinny, which is a major reason why I'm part of denim GAF, where the cuts actually make sense for my body.
 
I'm 5'6" or 5'7"; I haven't known my exact height in a great number of years. I would be lying if I said that it has never affected my self-consciousness, because it has. But the more experienced I get with women, the less I care. My ex-fiancee was 5'11" and if such a huge difference didn't stop her, then I think that anyone who complains about me just being too short isn't worth giving a single fuck about.
 
5"7 and not had any problems attracting female attention, even if I'm not the most confident of lads. I'd say confidence is the key factor, not being massively tall. To be honest, my height's pretty good for making eye contact with girls when I'm out. Not saying I wouldn't want to be really tall, but being this size does have it's benefits.
 
I'm 6'1, so I'm in the clear.

I would probably kill myself if I was short.

As far as women goes, I don't find short women attractive. I think 5'7 is the baseline for me.
 
InsertNameHere said:
I was just going to say the only thing that sucks about being short and skinny is trying to find clothes.

I make do with 28 size pants, when I can find them. I often have to have them hemmed for length though. For dress shirts if I get modern/slim fit I can go with 14 1/2 or whatever the smallest is and they fit alright. Regular shirts and stuff, depending on the brand, I either get S, XS or youth large.

Suits however, is where everything falls apart. I think the smallest I've ever seen in a store is a 36R and I need a 34 or 32S. Probably going to have to get some custom or massively tailored.
Yes, there is a short person tax on men's clothes for alterations. It sucks.

You can't really shop off the rack in a US store. I've had luck with Urban Outfitters, Banana Republic (online has XS), etc.
 
B!TCH said:
I think most men consistently prefer shorter women in the same way that women prefer taller men. All things being equal, women tend to be shorter than men anyway. Most people don't sit around thinking too much about their height so it usually isn't a real issue unless you are a woman who is much taller than most guys so no, I don't agree with the assertion in the thread title because height is relative to those around you (i.e, 6'5 isn't tall if everyone is 6'5) The reason it can be hard for short guys is because there is a good chunk of short women who won't date a guy who is "short," even if he is in fact taller than her.

Pour examplé, I used to work with a girl who is 4'11 and one day after some light on the job flirting, she gave me a long look up and down and asked me how tall I was. I said, 5'11, why are you asking? She said, yeah, you're cute, but you're too short for me. I'm about a foot taller than this girl so I couldn't understand what she expected - I'd never been called short prior to that so it kinda blew my mind. I'm slightly above average in height and it wasn't enough for this girl, so I can only imagine that shorter guys have it a little tougher than taller guys both ways because some short girls simply aren't interested in "short" guys. I can understand a girl not wanting to date a guy shorter than her (and vice versa for men) but I can't understand a short girl being so dismissive of a "short" guy who is taller than her.



Do you live in the US? You should shop at European or Asian based stores if you want clothes that fit you well.
I think it's total bullshit that 5'11 would ever be considered "short". It's basically 6 ft!

I'm 5'11

I think height has to do with if you play sports or not during your growing age.
 
Petrie said:
She isn't into Shorties, isn't weeding that out the point of such a site?
You can simply do that by looking at the height listed in their profile. If they don't have their height listed, just ignore them.

If I only like women with big tits and I put that in my profile I guarantee you that women will be off put by it. Even big breasted women.

Maybe I should put "no small boobies" in my profile for a week to see how that flies.
 
I'm 5'4" and I get shit all the time because of my height. No one believes my age and girls tell me I'm "cute" and "adorable" because I "look like a kid" @_@ Sometimes that's what they're looking for so it works out but those aren't really the descriptors I'm looking for.

Although ironically, I've never dated a girl shorter than me and find women shorter than me to be unattractive. I find tall girls (5'8"+) to be really hot and love to date/hook up with them.
 
I'm 5'7" and while this has never caused any issues with dating (my wife is 5'5" or so) I do remember being pretty annoyed with it during High School sports. For football I played cornerback but I only got to start about 1/2 the games my junior and senior years. Basically if the other team had a wide receiver who was 6'2" or less I would start and if he was taller than that our other (taller) cornerback would start. Used to really bug me to get taken out as I was first-string and a much better run defender. Luckily wrestling didn't have the same issues.
 
Bebpo said:
I'm 5'4" and I get shit all the time because of my height. No one believes my age and girls tell me I'm "cute" and "adorable" because I "look like a kid" @_@ Sometimes that's what they're looking for so it works out but those aren't really the descriptors I'm looking for.

Although ironically, I've never dated a girl shorter than me and find women shorter than me to be unattractive. I find tall girls (5'8"+) to be really hot and love to date/hook up with them.
So pedophiles are attracted to you?
 
Bebpo said:
I'm 5'4" and I get shit all the time because of my height. No one believes my age and girls tell me I'm "cute" and "adorable" because I "look like a kid" @_@ Sometimes that's what they're looking for so it works out but those aren't really the descriptors I'm looking for.

Although ironically, I've never dated a girl shorter than me and find women shorter than me to be unattractive. I find tall girls (5'8"+) to be really hot and love to date/hook up with them.

You should be catching female predators.

EDIT: Fucking beaten.

How the fuck was I beaten by five minutes. Your post wasn't there a second ago.

This is because I'm short isn't it?!
 
I don't look that young, haha :P

And I'm usually about 5-6 years older than these girls anyways ;) (I'm 30, I look maybe early/mid-20s to some people).
 
Bebpo said:
I'm 5'4" and I get shit all the time because of my height. No one believes my age and girls tell me I'm "cute" and "adorable" because I "look like a kid" @_@ Sometimes that's what they're looking for so it works out but those aren't really the descriptors I'm looking for.

Although ironically, I've never dated a girl shorter than me and find women shorter than me to be unattractive. I find tall girls (5'8"+) to be really hot and love to date/hook up with them.
The reason why I stay clear of anything involving kids. My little sister forgot her lunch a couple weeks back, so I decided to be nice and bring it to her middle school. When I get there, the front desk lady asks me if I'm there to check in for class. I had to sheepishly explain that I was in college. I knew it wasn't because I looked young since I was sporting a short beard at the time.
InsertNameHere said:
I usually go to H&M for anything more than the basics. Even there I've got to get the XS stuff though.
You should work on getting more muscular. I used to need to wear XS shirts but once I started working out, I've had trouble fitting into regular smalls.
 
5'7 so when I am out I guess I must be 5'9 ish. I still feel short in clubs because every chick wears 6 inch heels and they even tower over most guys.
 
DoctorWho said:
It's a preference I have in reference to a physical attribute. I don't think it's that different at all.

Everyone has preferences about physical attributes. To pretend otherwise is just stupid.
 
EraldoCoil said:
yes this is true.

I am 5'5" and I am crazy insecure, I curse my height everyday.

Talking to most girls they always say that they just cannot date a short guy. They usually must be taller than them. So this jacks up my confidence bad whenever I see someone that I am interested in/Want to talk to.

It's sad when most girls are taller than me.

Same except I'm 5'7". not even short girls go for 5'7" guys, and I don't have the personality to make up for being short
 
Raw64life said:
5'7" and I hate it. I'd trade 10 years off my life to be 6'0" without hesitation.

same. I wouldn't take being tall for granted either. I would learn how to dunk. I have a friend who's 6'4" and another who's 6'6" and they can't dunk. makes me frustrated. I can almost touch the rim and i'm 5'7"
 
sebajuNujabes said:
The reason why I stay clear of anything involving kids. My little sister forgot her lunch a couple weeks back, so I decided to be nice and bring it to her middle school. When I get there, the front desk lady asks me if I'm there to check in for class. I had to sheepishly explain that I was in college. I knew it wasn't because I looked young since I was sporting a short beard at the time.

You should work on getting more muscular. I used to need to wear XS shirts but once I started working out, I've had trouble fitting into regular smalls.

*goes into gas station*

Me: *hands clerk $20 and a candy bar* "I'd like the change on pump 2"
Him: *turns around, looks at pump 2, starts moving his head around like he's trying to spot something* "You drove?"
Me: "Yes"
Him: "How old are you?"
Me: "22"
Him: "Oh, man, I thought you were 14 or something."
Me: "Nope."

Indeed.
 
6'2" here, and I fucking love it. I wouldn't want to be any taller. I'm already taller than most, but at the same time don't have trouble sitting in small cars (usually).

My wife is 5' even and weighs all of a 100 lbs. I've asked her, and she said she wouldn't date anyone under 6', but of course that's just her opinion.

I have a friend who is 5'6" and his wife is like 3 inches taller than he is. It looks jarring out in public, not that I'd tell him that...
 
Petrie said:
Everyone has preferences about physical attributes. To pretend otherwise is just stupid.

I don't think I ever pretended to think otherwise. That would be stupid. I found the way she put it very unattractive. She can weed out height by looking at a person's profile. I know that some may lie about it but there are people lying about a bunch of other things on that site as well. I don't want to date fat people but I don't put "no fatties" in my profile.

Besides, it allowed me to weed her out despite the fact that I'm her height. So it did have its benefit. :)
 
Coming from someone that is 5'7 I would totally take 10 years off my life to be 6'0. I don't even have that big of a problem with the ladies....but I NEVER approach a girl that towers over me. If I was 6'0 tall I would be flawless.
 
DoctorWho said:
I don't think I ever pretended to think otherwise. That would be stupid. I found the way she put it very unattractive. She can weed out height by looking at a person's profile. I know that some may lie about it but there are people lying about a bunch of other things on that site as well. I don't want to date fat people but I don't put "no fatties" in my profile.

Besides, it allowed me to weed her out. :)
Or she can put it in there so guys who are short don't waste their time contacting her, which saves time time for all involved. Makes sense to me.
 
Petrie said:
Or she can put it in there so guys who are short don't waste their time contacting her, which saves time time for all involved. Makes sense to me.

And if I were to put in "No small breasted-women please"? It would certainly save me time too but it would be looked upon as unattractive by most women, despite how well-endowed they are.
 
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