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Are you satisfied with current direction of Final Fantasy?
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Danjin44
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I honestly can't agree with any of this other than the music. I never had any issue with UI, sure it's not as good as Persona 5 but I don't think any developers out there can match Atlus when it comes to menu designs in their games. I also never got bored with DQXI's turned based combat and I absolutely LOOOOOOOOOOOVE the characters in DQXI. I take DQXI "simple story" with god damn charming and memorable characters over the they FFXIII and FFXV does story or characters.
For a normal FF game I agree but giving the circumstances I think it is not a big deal if they use this ground structure for a new FF game. Also a really huge part played the bond between the boys as well. Actually this is why I played the game until the end. This is what kept me going. And I had a blast until Levithan because eof the world and the roadtrip feeling. It was sad to see to let it go to a more FF typical structure.
D.Final
Banned
@D.Final : My issue with FFXV's combat is not about not being Turn based, its about not being proper ARPG in my opinion. In ARPG I should expect I have some control over my character's actions but in FFXV i feel like I'm not really involved in battle even the parry on doesn't require exact timing like in most ARPG, there is just big button in middle of the screen telling you to "parry". If they no longer make turn based FF game then I guess I have to live with that but at very least they should make proper ARPG like they do with KH series.
This is to say, in fact, that there are many ways to make an Action jrpg game.
Some examples are: Dark Souls, Kingdom Hearts, Nier Automata, Ni-Ho.
(and also even the other action/adventure games have a very different gameplay, like Bayonetta, DMC, MGS Rising, etc ...)
To me, personally, I really liked the BS of Final Fantasy XV (which is It was also created by the Kingdom Hearts 2 and BBS teams).
But, I also understand how it is purely a personal taste.
So, they can do other Final Fantasy actions in the future (for me), if they want to.
(or even do a new type of BS)
This is to say that, despite personal preferences and tastes, I find it more appropriate to leave the freedom to an artist to create his own work.
(rather than asking for it as a gift, desire, obligation, or favor)
The freedom of artistic expression, in this sense, should not be affected.
(and not even judged, in theory)
Then, if one expresses only a judgment, or taste, personal on it, ok.
But, not that this should have an outcome on the choices of a future artist, who will take care of the project.
This is to say that it is OK to have personal tastes (or desires on the future), but it is not wise to limit a possible artistic work done by the Art Director of that project.
(in this case, a future Final Fantasy)
[it is as if, for example, I told Kojima that I want Death Stranding to have 100% the gameplay of MGS, otherwise it is no longer beautiful game]
(it would be a bit impossible to say , without having taken analysis of the rest of the project, and of how it was built, no ???)
D.Final
Banned
Taking note of a direction is very different than giving a personal judgment to the last titles released.....
In any case, my judgment does not change.
The road they have decided to follow is: "Final Fantasy was born to change with each chapter"
And I agree perfectly with Square Enix in this sense.
(and so yes I liked all the Final Fantasy, from first to last, for different reasons.)
Airola
Member
FFX made me lose interest in the series and it never came back. FFXV kinda made me cautiously optimistic for a while but the more I read and heard about it the more I lost interest.
Lol, this actually made my interest towards FFXV raise a bit
Lol, this actually made my interest towards FFXV raise a bit
kevin_trinh
Member
yeah so many "memorable" character, a wife that u don't even want to marry, a typical MC "yep u are a fking hero, now go and save the wolrd coz every1 need you to do it but no1 care if u die", with the MC aura " yep i dig this hole for 1000000000 years and u just show up when it done", some stupid twin just obey him " coz my mother told us since we was born", then "i need to save her but i dont know how so just fuck the logic and use time travel" and "you did that quest before? Just do it again for more game time kid, coz i can't think of anything more intersting" I swear even the 13 year old kid these day does not like this story anymore.
You can like watever u want, but FF is great bcoz it's not another Dragon Quest, and Dragon Quest will always be FF shadow. That's fact
royox
Member
Lol, this actually made my interest towards FFXV raise a bit
How so? Don't expect some kind of "DarkSouls-Like" storytelling or some big "mistery to solve" if you find all the verses.
In japan DQ is like 10 times bigger than Final Fantasy lol. They even had to forbid the release of DQ games on working days by law because people would massivelly skip the day to get the game and play it.
At least the latest DQ games are not FedEX simulators like FFXV. 99% of the game's content was:
Quest1:
>Go to X; get item, come back
Quest2:
>Go to X; get item, come back
Quest 3
>Go to X; get item, come back
[...]
Quest 999
>Go to X; get item, come back
Quest 1000
>Feed the cat
Quest 1001
>Feed the cat again
Quest 1002
>Feed the cat again
At least if the workd wasn't an empty lifeless void with the same gas station copypasted all over again and it was interesting and full of secret places like a WiiU game managed to be (Xenoblade X)...but nope.
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D.Final
Banned
Try to "praise" Dragon Quest XI for its sidequest, comparing them with those of other games like Final Fantasy XV, it is really very pathetic and sad......
And I say this from one who loved both games, eh.....
(And the last game that I platinum is just Dragon Quest XI)
I just say that, having got the platinum trophy for both Final Fantasy XV and both for Dragon Quest XI, if there is one thing they have in common, it is the side-quest.
In fact, in Dragon Quest XI there are side-quests like:
- go to take me the medicinal herb for the siren........
or
- go to take me treasure X (in a random point)
or
- go to take me a letter Y (in another random point)
This is the quality of the Dragon Quest XI side-quests.
And that is, the JRPG standard.
So, there are no differences with Final Fantasy XV.
(from this point of view)
And, indeed, Final Fantasy XV is in its own way a masterpiece. (both for the world [for technique and visual beauty, since it is a living world] and for the Lore)
So as Dragon Quest XI is a masterpiece for other reasons. (especially for its strong classic appeal)
And I say this from one who loved both games, eh.....
(And the last game that I platinum is just Dragon Quest XI)
I just say that, having got the platinum trophy for both Final Fantasy XV and both for Dragon Quest XI, if there is one thing they have in common, it is the side-quest.
In fact, in Dragon Quest XI there are side-quests like:
- go to take me the medicinal herb for the siren........
or
- go to take me treasure X (in a random point)
or
- go to take me a letter Y (in another random point)
This is the quality of the Dragon Quest XI side-quests.
And that is, the JRPG standard.
So, there are no differences with Final Fantasy XV.
(from this point of view)
And, indeed, Final Fantasy XV is in its own way a masterpiece. (both for the world [for technique and visual beauty, since it is a living world] and for the Lore)
So as Dragon Quest XI is a masterpiece for other reasons. (especially for its strong classic appeal)
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kevin_trinh
Member
Yeah 10 time bigger in Japan, now Japan is represent for this world? So scary. So tell me why the sale of DQ11 in Japan does not "10 times bigger" than the sale of FF15? Or am i missing something?
Xenoblade X world is 1000000000 years ahead of DQ world, FYI. And the repetitive level of Quest in DQ 11 is the same as you mention above. FF15 world does not reach Xeno X world level yet, but there always a chance. But for DQ? never, coz they never change
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kevin_trinh
Member
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One can't really give judgement without having taken note in the changes in direction though. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Most people in the thread understood my meaning. I'm well aware of Square Enix's design philosophy for the series. They also designate the series into eras as well. With FF VII through FF XII, considered as their "golden age"
As you've stated, you've liked every Final Fantasy for one reason or another, and that's perfectly valid, as it's not all that unreasonable to enjoy a certain element from mutiple titles. Most other fans likely share that sentiment.
As a fan, have you found yourself satisfied with the most recent directions the series has taken? (i.e. the current era) Or have you found yourself dissatisfied?
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royox
Member
DQXI Japan sales First Weekend:
+2 Million units
https://gamerant.com/dragon-quest-11-sales-japan/
FFXV Japan Sales First Week
694.262 Units
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/final-fantasy-xv-debuts-1-japan-sales-way-series/
MP!
Member
lol my bad
D.Final
Banned
I had already answered in a general way.
But if you want a detailed answer, ok.
I am satisfied with the current era of Final Fantasy.
(and, that is, of the PS4 and XboxOne generation)
[but I was already satisfied with Final Fantasy even in all previous generations]
So, I start:
- Final Fantasy XV:
a fantasy based on reality.
For such a big project, and for a project that underwent multiple changes over the course of 10 years.
Of which only 3 years of real and final development, of the project forged by Tabata and BD2.
I really enjoyed the idea of creating a Universe for Final Fantasy XV.
Unfortunately, the project has suffered many problems, which have made this process difficult to achieve.
(while some do not even accept it as an idea......)
From my point of view, Kingsglaive Final Fantasy XV is a great prologue film for the game.
[for me, the best Final Fantasy movie]
(and, from this point of view, I think the basic game could have drawn more from it)
Brotherhood Final Fantasy XV is a cute and interesting anime.
(although, maybe too short)
I wish there were more than 5 episodes +1 Extra.
And the game of Final Fantasy XV, with its simple story, and its epic Lore, is a wonderful experience.
BS is beautiful, fast, dynamic and fun. (spectacular magic)
Beautiful mini-games.
It's great to travel to Eos with Regalia or chocobos.
Ignis dishes seem really good
(and are the best, and most realistic, ever made for a video game)
The OST are divine.
(one of the best OST of the saga of FF)
And the ending of the game is one of the best of the Final Fantasy saga.
If we add to this the second run with the Royal Edition and/or the Windows Edition, which include all the DLC (+ all free updates), the game is immensely richer and bigger that ever.
So, Final Fantasy XV is one of the best Final Fantasy ever made.
And, also, one of the best game of this generation.
The things I liked the most are [Lore/characters/villan (Ardyn is the best since Kefka's time)/Astrals (the spectacular Summon)/the fantastic world of Eos/the Chocobo/the journey with Ignis, Prompto, and Gladio, is very beautiful and exciting, and the best ending ever made]
- Final Fantasy Type 0 HD:
a game brought, like remastered, on PS4 and XboxOne.
I remember how everyone wanted SE to take him to America and Europe.
He has arrived. But, obviously, people wanted it on PSP.....
(or PSVita.......)
I liked it for the OST, and for the versatility of the characters.
(and some sections of the plot, such as Alexander for example)
- World of Final Fantasy (PS4):
a nice fun game.
Nice and very light.
Classic, but also very inspired.
It was a pleasant surprise.
And, the things that I liked the most were [the characteristic of the Stack of characters with the monsters] and [the simple story, but pretty and fun].
- Final Fantasy Dissidia NT:
made by Team Ninja, is a different game from previous Dissidia, but no less beautiful.
The problem is that the players wanted a FF Dissidia for consoles identical to those for PSP.
They did not get it.
And they had, instead, a sort of "soft-reboot" of the spinoff.
Very based on online battles, I liked it for the BS.
(but, it would have been nice if it had been enriched with additional modes, like an RPG story with WorldMap like PSP's Dissidia)
But it's still great as a battle browler.
- Final Fantasy XIV (Heavensward, Stormblood):
a game of remarkable wealth and epicness.
With an engaging story, he has his dead times, in certain missions, but in the important moments of the plot, it reaches really impressive and epic peaks of majesty.
[as the end of the main plot of Heavensward (and also the Post Heavensward), and of Stormblood]
The gameplay is intuitive, tactical and schematic. Although this quality makes it, inevitably, limiting (and/or slow) in certain cases and situations.
A beautiful story that continues with the next update, and the next year with Shadowbringers.
So I would say that I am very satisfied with how Final Fantasy is in this generation.
Since there are both great titles, like Final Fantasy XV, and more classic titles like World of Final Fantasy.
And, to these, add an excellent MMO, like Final Fantasy XIV, and other new and/or required titles such as Dissidia NT and Type 0 HD.
And, always remembering that Final Fantasy is a saga born to change always, from chapter to chapter, I am very satisfied with the support they are giving to the series with the latest games released.
And I'm 100% sure that I will be equally satisfied when they release Final Fantasy VII Remake and, in the next few years, also Final Fantasy XVI.
Because it will be something new, always and in any case, like every chapter.
Being able to get excited and surprised.
So, for me it's great.
Airola
Member
I just got some FFVII Weapon vibes from what you said, and to have things like that to be part of the actual plot feels nice. But I'm sure it's nothing like that. Just made me have the tiniest little bit of momentary interest for the game.
D.Final
Banned
If you like the Weapons, and Final Fantasy VII, then you'll love the story of Final Fantasy XV.
Starting from the film, Kingsglaive Final Fantasy XV.
An epic film, where they show really impressive scenes, and worthy of Final Fantasy name.
If you want, I'll tell you 1/2 things that are there.
I'm writing you under spoilers.
(Spoiler story, Kingsglaive FFXV)
Emerald Weapon
Knights of the Round
royox
Member
Nothing like that ingame lol.
The only resembling thing to FFXV happens in the movie and it's never talked again in the game. Such a shame because the movie was 100% hype and the game had literally nothing to do with it lol.
D.Final
Banned
In one of the 2 names, I wrote another name by mistake. I write the correct one below the Spoiler.
It's the
Diamond Weapon.
More info about it, theare are in documents in Episode Prompto.
More info about it, theare are in documents in Episode Prompto.
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And if we don't like :
-teenage writing,
-overcomplicated Lore filled with blank spot,
-nosense narrative,
-dull mashing combat,
-failed magic system,
-incoherent world building,
-fetchquest in fetchquest,
-annoying party members,
-Calvin Klein character design
and more, I think the list goes on but i couldn't play more than 6 hours, FFXV is by far the worse Final Fantasy i have played, and one of the worst AAA ever made.
I liked FFVII Weapons though...
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D.Final
Banned
For me Final Fantasy XV is an excellent game, and one of the best, and majestic, Final Fantasy ever made.
And one of the best AAA videogame experiences of this generation.
Final Fantasy XV has:
- a beautiful, dynamic and fun BS
- a spectacular, interesting, use of spells
- a majestic graphic
- one of the best OST of the Final Fantasy franchise
- a great and Epic Lore
- a great party of friends.
Characterized, unique, and exceptional.
- A wonderful world to visit
- majestic Dungeons to explore
(one of the best design dungeons for the saga)
- Chocobo and Regalia, (base, Type-F and Type-D) for visiting the beautiful world of Eos
- the spectacular Summons
- a simple but wonderful and beautiful plot
- an excellent villan
(one of the best in the saga)
- beautiful and fun mini-games
- beautiful cities to visit
- spectacular cutscene in CG
- the excellent Monster Design
- and one of the best endings ever made
(for me, the best ending for a Final Fantasy game)
So Final Fantasy XV is a real and splendid masterpiece of Final Fantasy.
And one of the best AAA videogame experiences of this generation.
Final Fantasy XV has:
- a beautiful, dynamic and fun BS
- a spectacular, interesting, use of spells
- a majestic graphic
- one of the best OST of the Final Fantasy franchise
- a great and Epic Lore
- a great party of friends.
Characterized, unique, and exceptional.
- A wonderful world to visit
- majestic Dungeons to explore
(one of the best design dungeons for the saga)
- Chocobo and Regalia, (base, Type-F and Type-D) for visiting the beautiful world of Eos
- the spectacular Summons
- a simple but wonderful and beautiful plot
- an excellent villan
(one of the best in the saga)
- beautiful and fun mini-games
- beautiful cities to visit
- spectacular cutscene in CG
- the excellent Monster Design
- and one of the best endings ever made
(for me, the best ending for a Final Fantasy game)
So Final Fantasy XV is a real and splendid masterpiece of Final Fantasy.
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kevin_trinh
Member
2.000.000/694000 = 10, ok i see, thank you professor
In case you don't know: DQ11 total sale: 4m, FF15: 8m+
kevin_trinh
Member
Oh now i know what u mean, 60$ of Japan worth 600$, 60$ of the rest only worth 60$, isn't it?
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
If all you've played is 6 hours worth, you've barely scratched the surface. But then I think the same can be said about every game in the series.
Nymphae
Banned
6 hours is not a lot, but he's also not really wrong about anything in his list.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Given how heavily back-loaded the story/lore is, and how few mechanics have been unlocked by that point... It kinda is.
And as I pointed out, you could take that list of gripes and apply it to pretty much every game in the entire series.
I don't remember exactly how much hours i spent in it, maybe 10 hours maximum... But the game was so disapointing on every aspect beside animation and soundtrack that I couldn't force myself to continue.
Also heavy lore doesn't mean good lore, when your global narrative is so irregular adding another layer will just make it worse...
FFXV is a mess, a beautiful one maybe... but still a mess that takes itself way too seriously for how poorly the writing is.
After The Witcher III it was just pathetic.
D.Final
Banned
Do you know what's more pathetic?
A player who judges an entire game, only on the basis of a comparison between one game and another.
This is REALLY pathetic .........
(under many levels, believe me ......)
Then, giving a judgment on an entire narrative of a game, without even having tried to finish the game, it is so pathetic, to make you think if you are really a player or not .....
Because, you know, to judge the narrative compartment of a story in a video game, usually, you have to start and finish it.
If you judge it first, then it means that you only talk nonsense.
(just to shoot random sentences, and without any logical sense of foundation)
Resulting, in fact, pathetic in your comment at random.
And, therefore, you do not have the necessary foundation to judge the narrative sector as a whole.
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Calm down the fanboy, you just shewed poo so long that you believed it tasted good at some point, that all.
I tried to finish but the game was too bad, and I DIDN'T finished because of the bad narrative and other terrible aspect, so...
I'm the customer, I'm not supposed to force myself to play a product that don't make the effort to give me the NEED or the envy to play it, get it?
Anyway I'm not interested for another round on Neogaf with someone who's can't be a minimum objective, blahblabh you liked FFXV, blahblah good for you.
Game is mediocre and a mess, period.
And btw The Witcher III do a better job as a game episode from a trilogy to explain his narrative within a deeper lore(even without playing the first two game!), than FFXV as a stand alone game...
I tried to finish but the game was too bad, and I DIDN'T finished because of the bad narrative and other terrible aspect, so...
I'm the customer, I'm not supposed to force myself to play a product that don't make the effort to give me the NEED or the envy to play it, get it?
Anyway I'm not interested for another round on Neogaf with someone who's can't be a minimum objective, blahblabh you liked FFXV, blahblah good for you.
Game is mediocre and a mess, period.
And btw The Witcher III do a better job as a game episode from a trilogy to explain his narrative within a deeper lore(even without playing the first two game!), than FFXV as a stand alone game...
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Saint Boot
Banned
I seriously want this!!!!!!!!!!
D.Final
Banned
What I said is, since I (as opposed to you) I finished the game [and I did 2 runs, with the Royal Edition], that my opinion is infinitely more valid than your pathetic and insipid "opinion".
Because it is based on concrete foundations that you do not have.
And I assure you that it is infinitely more objective than anything you have previously written.
Trust me........
You are the type of "player" that when he plays a game does it only for a few hours, and only to give a random judgment (and without NO logical basis of support), based on a "micro played of the game" that does not can, and will never, have the same weight as any other player who has followed the story of the game from beginning to end.
In fact, showing a pointless comment, based only on the same voices you heard (or read) on the game, rather than on that little and miserable time you've spent playing the game.
So, from this point of view, your nonsense (and completely random) comment on the game does not even bear the weight of a fragment of sheet of crumpled paper.
But it is only for contempt (for the game).
And then compare it with another game (always random) [according to general opinion] just to justify your sad, pathetic, insipid, and inconclusive view of a game that, on balance, has just touched with the gamepad, and then self-justifies in your miserable and pathetic act of shoveling further shit on a game that (in fact) you never really wanted to finish........
You, for me, you are one of the worst categories of "players" (seen that, if you're not even able to finish a game, and have the claim to complain...... to random....... and hearsay.......) that there may be around the world.
[the type of Players that: "I play an hour, and I run to give the vote!", The worst kind of non - players......]
So, on this basis, you should be the one to find out what the game offers you with the passing of time, and not the other way.......
And if you do not want to do it, or you're just a fake player, or you're someone who hates things regardless, randomly, or based on other opinions......
So , you would have done much nicer figure not to write anything.
If you did not have (in fact) anything concrete to write.
(Given your unwillingness to play the game......)
Also, YOU justify YOUR FAILURE AS A PLAYER, judging those 5 hours you played with Final Fantasy XV, with another random game [highly appreciated by the critics world] for his narrative, ONLY TO JUSTIFY YOUR INSULATED BEHAVIOR AND YOUR PATENTIC JUDGMENT OF THE GAME.
Then, I'm sure you have understood all of the story of The Witcher 3, giving him the vote already, already after playing it for 5 hours, right?!?!?
Ah no, that's enough for the other opinions.......
I bet you'll have understood all of the plot of Horizon Zero Dawn, playing only 5 hours of it, right ?!?!?!
Ah, but you do not need it........
The others talk about it well, so I do not need to play it until the end...........
The truth is that you're a fake player.
And also a bad player, since you're not even able to finish a game......
(and judgments based on other opinions.......)
I close by saying, with certainty, that your behavior is pathetic, insipid, and absolutely inconclusive.
(turning out to be an insult to any other serious gamer in this world)
So, I suggest you to take a conscience exam.
Since, if a game has something to say and to offer and you do not listen to it, the fault is not the game, the fault is your wrong way of reasoning.
(and, above all, to judge any other work)
Having said that, Final Fantasy XV is an excellent Final Fantasy, one of the best AAAs of this generation, and also an extraordinary and wonderful Universe to be discovered.
P.S .: and, having said this, I closed the conversation with you.
So, from pathetic fake player (and also non-player) as you are, I have nothing more to say to you.
You only make me so sad, because you're infinitely pathetic.............
royox
Member
Literally "hold one button to win", it's almost impossible to even lose a battle in this game against enemies of your level just by holding the attack button and pressing the "parry" button when it's promted on the screen.
Lol you have to be trolling. Extracting magic from the ground and using it as grenades was the most retarded thing ever.
A lifeless empty desert.
They are good and have nice banter but...unique and excepcional? They are EVERY SHONEN stereotypes.
-the smartass with glasses
-the big and strong dudebro
-the funny one
-the Sasuke clone
Spectacular as cutscenes but it's the worst Summoning sistem of the whole FF franchise.
Simple and wonderful can't go on the same phrase talking about jrpg stories. It's an uncompleted mess with nothing beautiful about it. "He killed my dad, revenge... meanwhile let's fish a lot to feed this cat"
City, in singular. The other place (where you fight leviathan) is not even a city, it's a loading screen hell.
They cut out the final battle against Ardyn Demon form, made it be a cutscene, the end. Hey but at least it wasn't FFIX or VIII level of bad.
FF is a bunch of great ideas that somehow they managed to execute the worst way possible. The plot had potential, they fucked it not explaining it. The lore had potential, fucked it not explaining it. The combat had potential, ended up being "hold triangle to win", The magic sistem had potential, magic fking grenades, only fire+thunder+ice magic, literally the FF game with less spells; the villain had potential, too bad 90% of that potential involved the lore and it's not explained, the summons had potential, you can't summon at will, it's a random proc, ff with less summons of the franchise; the world had potential, it's an empty landscape void of life, the same gas station copy pasted 30 times, nothing to do or to find, just playing FedEX simulator and hunting; Luna had potential, less than 10min of screentime, the empire had potential, is 100% vanished from ch12 to ch13 and the only explanation are random sheets of paper scattered; the ch13 had potential, the Ch13 happent...
I got SO HYPED when you wake up as adult Noct on the "world on ruins", I was all "OH THIS IS WHERE GOOD SHIT WILL BE! THEY PULLED A FFVI WORLD OF RUIN!!!!" And when I saw how that was cut out, a whole world worth of wandering around, searching for the old friends, fighting foes in darkness.....but I got a cutscene with Jared fucking grandson with his truck and got teleported with my party and DareDevil. 30 minutes after that the credits were rolling while I was waiting for a real final boss battle to happen. I will never EVER forgive them for that.
Dude it's not that I hate FFXV, for me FFXV is like Son Gohan. I love the idea of Son Gohan, I loved the character when he fought Cell and went SSj2 but after that is just disappointment after disappointment. I wanted it to be good so bad after 10 years waiting and they couldn't even release a proper finished game.
Maybe with PS5 they release the HD Ultra Royal Remaster Edition Director's Cut or the modding community pulls a KOTOR2 and complete the mess.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
What you talking about? VIII's ending is pretty much the best in the entire series; a complete, entirely unique dungeon with puzzles and a bonus super-boss, an epic multi-stage final confrontation, that nontheless can make you feel like an OP God with the right setup (aura+pulse ammo ftw), followed by a truly epic (21 minutes) and emotional final CG sequence that with its post-credit coda ties up every story-arc in the game.
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D.Final
Banned
I answer you point by point:
(but, basically, depending on how one plays the game, depends on what one sees in the game, and depends on personal tastes if something you liked in a way [even at the artistic level above all) or not)
- the battle system is based on many more actions that "press a key and win" .....
(which [in brackets] can also be done with most of the old Final Fantasy, like FF VI, VIII, VIII, IX, X, etc ...)
Yes, if you want you can always fight by attacking normally at random.
But, the combos and blows are profoundly different if one presses the key many times, or if one holds the key down.
Moreover, one can concatenate multiple combos with different types of weapons that, in turn, have totally different styles, effects, power, and combos.
In this way, if one wants, it can create multiple attack assets, to fight certain types of enemies.
(in fact, there are enemies who have as weaknesses the damage inflicted by the daggers, or the sword, or even weak enemies to the spears, etc ....)
This is to say how one can exploit to his advantage the best way to fight an enemy.
Then, you ask me if it is necessary to exploit such weaknesses to defeat the common enemies, or for the enemies of the plot? No.
But, this does not take away that there are powerful enemies in the game that require the use of appropriate strategies, or adequate weapons, to provide sufficient damage to be defeated.
(as, for example, in the Ezma post game secret dungeons)
In fact, among the most difficult enemies, there are also those who do not suffer damage from any kind of weapon. (kind of powerful puddings in some of these dungeons)
Furthermore, the gameplay does not stop there.
Since there are also the powerful Royal Weapons.
There is the Armingers Unleashed, there are the combined group techniques, you can change character (and consequently gameplay) in battle with Ignis, Gladio or Prompto.
There are chained attacks, there are parades, there are assaults, spells, the bait moguri to throw in battle to distract enemies, etc .....
So yes.
The BS of the game is, in its way, quite varied, rich and complex.
But it is obvious that if one does not want to prove all its potential, then it will not even try to deepen it.
And so it will go on by pressing always and only a button, if one wants .......
(losing everything else)
For me, the use of magic in Final Fantasy XV is spectacular, fizzy, rich, and interesting.
Do you know that there is no Final Fantasy that has ever had an alchemical element of composition of the spells like in Final Fantasy XV?
And do you know what I like best?
The fact that I can make my own spells.
At a really impressive potential level.
(between effects of poison, healing, triple thunders, quintupli, etc ...)
Just dwell on their use in battle different from the usual (and despising it for this), is like throwing away a flower without even trying to smell the scent)
For me, the world of Eos is extremely beautiful.
And it is a living world.
With the monsters that, standing in a pack, also cross the streets if you notice.
If this is not a living world, with its environment, and with the wild creatures that populate it, then I do not know what it should be .....
If you were to learn about the characters (before speaking), maybe you would know more about them ......
For me it is a party stratospheric, coherent, emotional, with a great friendship carried on throughout the journey, and has really succeeded in an excellent way.
Prompto has a truly touching, and very rich history.
Despite being the most cheerful of the group, it is the one with the most tormented past, because of its origins.
(Spoiler Final Fantasy XV and Episode Prompto)
Prompto is a Magiteck clone from the Niflheim empire.
Also destined to become one of the Magiteck soldiers of Niflheim, it is saved and taken (as a child) on the continent of Lucis.
Where he will grow up with his friend Noctis,
Gladio is the shield of the King.
Protector of Noctis, he trains every day to be sufficiently strong to protect him.
Ignis is a faithful friend, always and in any case, until the end.
He would be willing to sacrifice his life to protect Noctis.
And, from the second half of the game, it will carry with it the weight of a future consciousness.
Where, with strength and desperation, he takes note of the destiny that awaits his friend in the end.
If these are not a great team for you, then it's hard that any other team could ever convince you otherwise ....
Summon are spectacular.
And do you know why they are even more so in Final Fantasy XV?
Because they are Gods.
And, as such, they do not take orders.
But, having made a pact with the chosen one, they help him occasionally, unleashing an impressive destructive power.
(ah, and for the record, they are ALL in REAL TIME, and no longer in CG)
Story is simple.
And, thanks to this detail, it manages to be frank and direct.
And this, in the end, turns out to be also a sort of merit at the end.
(not all storys need to be complex, after all)
The cities are spectacular, especially on an artistic and stage level.
They are very large, and it is a pleasure to visit the city of Accordo with the gondola.
(for me)
And also Lestallum and Insomnia are very beautiful.
The Final Fantasy XV ending is one of the best ever made in the whole Final Fantasy XV saga.
(and it's at the Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core ending levels, which is equally spectacular)
This is my analysis of what I said, and to which you replied.
My judgment on the game is excellent.
And the reasons have been mentioned numerous times.
You are free to consider your preferences as you see fit, of course.
It is enough for me that you do not come to criticize the preferences of others, however.
Because if you're here just to express how much or how you disagree with another's opinion and why, then maybe it's better if you do not replicate at all, do not you think ??
So, having said that, I told you why I think Final Fantasy XV is a great Final Fantasy and one of the best games of this generation for me.
You can accept this opinion as such, or ignore it
Just do not attack the opinions of others that you are not able to accept, understand!
And with this, or closed.
I have nothing else to tell you about the reasons for my excellent judgment regarding the game.[/spoiler]
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Yup, but you wasted your time this guy is blindly fan about FFXV... He probably never played any decent RPG to build a perspective.
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D.Final
Banned
And this is another pathetic and useless addition to the list of idiotic things you said today.......
(then you say that I, a veteran of the genre JRPG, I'm blind.......
"said the useless user without even a real opinion...........")
Ah right, and you know why ??
Because YOU, FAKE PLAYER, YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED THE GAME!
So, I congratulate your incapacity, and your ineptitude......
And then you give me the blind man!?!
YOU?! FAKE PLAYER!?!
(you're the kind of player that ruins Videogames medium)
So you're just a sleazy, and pathetic person, at absurd levels......
I've played hundreds of role-playing games until the end!
You, on the other hand, only know how to make judgments about things and people, and it is harmful even with your dialogue.
And you also allow yourself to judge the people you do not even know !!!
You're just not smart, and not even able to finish a video game........
Represent the apex of the pathetic and bad videogamer. Resulting a sad person, and very, BUT VERY PATHETICS!
So I do not have to tell you about the 1000000 games I've played with in my carrier.
But know that I have some experience in the field.
Since I've been playing video games since before the first GameBoy!
So, do yourself a favor, and do the world a favor too.
Before saying another pathetics and useless things, count up to 100, and then erase what you were about to write from your silly mind.
Because it would give something surely useless, pathetic, and ignorant to extreme levels.
Trust me.......
You are a fake and useless player, and if you keep these comments for yourself you will make a better figure at least........
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danielberg
Neophyte
Its not that serious dude not everyone likes your favorite game and not everyone likes my favorite game, thats ok lol
Let him, he's in full seizure about FFXV.
He seems to don't understand a thing about features, gamedesign or gameplay loop and put his favorite game on some Fantasy piedestal.
His "list" of feature is a pile of sensless adjective like 'spectacular, wonderful, incredible, marvelous'.
Nobody said he couldn't enjoy FFXV or have his opinion... But since someone said his favorite game was crap he felt deeply offended, typical fanboy behavior.
He seems to don't understand a thing about features, gamedesign or gameplay loop and put his favorite game on some Fantasy piedestal.
His "list" of feature is a pile of sensless adjective like 'spectacular, wonderful, incredible, marvelous'.
Nobody said he couldn't enjoy FFXV or have his opinion... But since someone said his favorite game was crap he felt deeply offended, typical fanboy behavior.
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grumpyGamer
Member
I was a huge ff fan, but for me they have lost a bit of the magic formula over the years.
And i desliked alot ff 15.
So no, i whould not say i like the new direction
And i desliked alot ff 15.
So no, i whould not say i like the new direction
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
But you are also acting like the game is "shit" is a fact. If the FFXV is his favourite FF game doesn't makes his opinion wrong.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Completely and utterly yes. I bought World of Final Fantasy happily and that's the first I've bought of my own will since FFX and it was great. People attribute too much hate to the turn based battle system, I do believe this could still make for a great game. But more than just the battle system, the story and characters peaked with FFX for me. FFXII should have been a Vagrant story sequel and with the exception of MMO titles which I don't play XIII as a trilogy was really bad and XV just didn't interest me at all. The fact that it hasn't broken the 10m marker is pretty telling I think, I also think the series needs to go back to its roots a little like Resident Evil 7 and it should discover a bit of that magic that made those games great.
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He will have his opinion like everybody, but it doesn't make it the universal truth... I mean the earth isn't flat, even while people opinion agreed IT was back in the days, but we know it's WRONG.
Unfortunatly fanboys just get the worse out of me, they are so blatant in their 'rhetoric' that i don't bother trying to debate, and end trashing the game.
My first statement was that FFXV is the worst FF and the worse AAA of 2016 if you look back, never said it was the worse game made.
Sure FFXV is playable and enjoyable for some, but it stay a barely average title with top notch animation and a good soundtrack, somekind of a fancy benshmark that costed millions.
It's not about a disagreement on a feature, it's about changing a fact into some fantasy, these guys are on that of level of deny.
"- a beautiful, dynamic and fun Battle System " , Dynamic is the ONLY word that make sense in that sentence if you ever played FFXV.
"- a spectacular, interesting, use of spells " , Oh cmon... Yes he's talking about FFXV!
There is no point to debate.
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Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
To some its mediocre and to some its not, it just matter of taste. There are people who enjoyed FFXV more than pervious FF games because they might absolutely hate the turn based combat. I myself didn't like FFXV at all but I wont call someone being wrong for liking the game. You hate FFXV and his loves FFXV, agree to disagree. end of story.
But it's not about taste omg... If you want to talk about game mechanic like a battle system. Phewww this is why i say i'm wasting my time.
No offence man but really it's pointless.
And I don't hate FFXV, i just found stupid
D.Final
statement who claim "if you like FFVII and optional Boss then you will LOVE FFXV"... This was the whole point of my first post!
Now please can we just move on.
ps : The only game i 'hate' is World Of Warcraft, for obvious reason.
No offence man but really it's pointless.
And I don't hate FFXV, i just found stupid
D.Final
statement who claim "if you like FFVII and optional Boss then you will LOVE FFXV"... This was the whole point of my first post!Now please can we just move on.
ps : The only game i 'hate' is World Of Warcraft, for obvious reason.
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D.Final
Banned
But you're still here to talk!
YOU ARE A SAD, AND A PATHETIC FAKE-GAMER In your way of behaving with the people around you.
I gave my opinion on the game.
You do not want to accept it, because you see it absurd.
Ok.
But, then, YOU'RE LEFT AT LEAST! That is, wow, the whole world has understood that you do not like my opinion.
But, at least, I CAN GIVE A CONCRETE JUDGMENT TO THE GAME, SINCE I FINISHED IT 2 TIMES !!!
(AND ALSO WITH THE PLATINUM TROPHY!)
You, on the other hand, are an INSURED FAKE PLAYER who, in fact, THAT CLAIMS TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE AND COMPLETE OPINION BASED ON A GAMEPLAY BARELY ABOUT 5 HOURS.......
WHEN YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HAD THE DESIRE TO FINISH THE MAIN PLOT OF THE GAME!!!
And you also pretend to judge it!
YOU HAVE NOT EVEN CAPABLE TO END THE GAME!
(Since you played only 5 HOURS!)
So, save your sad, and unethical, and have the courtesy, and the intelligence, to be quiet at least.
(since, YOU CAN NEVER JUDGE A GAME, AND ITS NARRATIVE, IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED IT!!!)
You are the most pathetic person I've ever seen.......
You know that you are a non-player who does not understand anything, nor technical and artistic judgment, nor opinions of others.
So any dialogue with you is meaningless.
(since, apparently, you're only going to shove shit on people and things)
You're the most sad, inept, and PATHETIC "FAKE-GAMER" of this universe.
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D.Final
Banned
But shut up at least!!!
What if you have nothing else to say but to attack the game or make fun of the players who enjoyed it!
YOU ARE THE SHAME OF TODAY PLAYERS!!!
And I will remember your enormous patheticity in the future.
Ah, and just to remind you, since you are a very sad and very pathetic FAKE-GAMER.
FINAL FANTASY XV IS AN EXCELLENT FINAL FANTASY, AND IS AT 100% ONE OF THE BEST GAMES OF THIS CONSOLE GENERATION!
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Muffdraul
Member
I don't think "satisfied" is the word, but... I'm fine with whatever it is at this point. I fell in love with FF in 1994 with VI, and it was one of my favorite franchises for many years after that. My fandom took a hit with XI and X-2, at that point I realized we were finally coming down on the other side of the peak. XII had the weakest characters and story since VI, but everything else made up for that weakness, by a long shot. But then XIII pretty much killed whatever fandom and good will I still had for the series. In and of itself, XIII wasn't a bad game. But as what was intended to be a full-fledged mainline FF, it fell painfully short. As an FF it was a fucking joke.
I don't care for MMOs at all, so FFXI and XIV were non-starters for me. Actually I put many hours into FFXI before I eventually said, "Welp, I tried, I gave it a chance, but now I'm dead positive this just isn't my thing." I had almost zero hype or anticipation for FFXV (including when it was known as FFvsXIII,) but I knew I'd play it on day 1 and I assumed it would be fun and entertaining, which it was to a reasonable degree. I'd play another FF like that. It was good enough.
FF has been a pale shadow of its true glory for a very, very long time and I can't even remember when I stopped caring, it was so many years ago.
I don't care for MMOs at all, so FFXI and XIV were non-starters for me. Actually I put many hours into FFXI before I eventually said, "Welp, I tried, I gave it a chance, but now I'm dead positive this just isn't my thing." I had almost zero hype or anticipation for FFXV (including when it was known as FFvsXIII,) but I knew I'd play it on day 1 and I assumed it would be fun and entertaining, which it was to a reasonable degree. I'd play another FF like that. It was good enough.
FF has been a pale shadow of its true glory for a very, very long time and I can't even remember when I stopped caring, it was so many years ago.
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