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Argentinian Riots After World Cup Defeat
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SniperHunter
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Context?Yeah, feel free to join in on our racism riots instead.
Pretty sure he himself is from Barbados or something.
opticalmace
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Tinfoilhatsron
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Gray Matter
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Some times sports fan take shit too serious. Soccer in particular IMO.
You guys understand that Bane is saying "It would be extremely painful... for you." Without that first line, it don't make no sense yo!
hahaha, okay, sir. "i'm not a racist"
"negros de mierda" more or less translates into "piece of shit niggers"
and don't try to pull some bullshit that "negros" is not what that means.
go away.
In Argentina the best way to show political power is by how many people you can put on the street. A way of easily upping your numbers at political demonstrations is by getting close to the barras, mob-like organization of "fans" of different football teams (Like the english hooligans but with access to a lot more firepower), that have many adherents. Many of the high ranking barras of different clubs are part of well known political parties and unions, and are surprised in different criminal acts (mainly weapon possesion and drug trafficking) but since they are protected they can't be judged. As such, these violent professionals are used to disrupt the order, break protests of people from other polical parties, protection during their own events, etc. Example, this riot some of the media are saying that many of the rioters where from Chacarita, a club whose barra is known for affilitation to the leader of one of the biggest unions in the country.
Abstruse Moose
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Alcohol + emotional frustration + bad decision making + mob mentality = riots.
Angelus Errare
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Winterfang
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Zantetsuken
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With no survivors!
seriously, at this point i have to wonder if this is bizarre, world cup-inspired account suicide.
world cups are every 4 years, dude; permabans are forever.
yup
the term is offensive to poor people, foreigeners, black people and people from the argie provinces at the same time
unfortunately this kind of thinking is not uncommon
good summary
i don't really have the exact info on who's behind this now but basically this is what's going on, this doesn't have anything to do with football fans, the world cup or argies themselves
this is mostly mobster shit
TheBaronOfNA
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CarpeDeezNutz
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What about when they win? Dallas got crunk when they cowboys won.
TheBaronOfNA
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Eres un racista, wey. No le des vuelta al asunto.
Also confusing! I guess ultimately people just like to break shit and they just need an excuse to feel okay about it.
It's cathartic to break shit
TheBaronOfNA
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That is sadly true, or at least to an extent in my country. Racial issues are often ignored or not discussed.
what makes them atypical? skin color?
sports riots happen whether a team wins or lose. it is usually widespread partying that gets out of hand. it happens in every country
NYCmetsfan
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ah. ok.
read a couple earlier posts from this thread, teclon post specially
these riots are unrelated to world cup, sports, losing or whatever
this is a small number of people that actually scared away the thousands of fans that were peacefully cheering
Murder. She Wrote
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Oh you know #justracistthings
actually its "Black piece of shit" not sure where you get niggers from negro tho...
Im guessing different connotations from different latin american countries...
all in all...kammie...plz stahp...you've dug your own hole and you wont get out...
TheBaronOfNA
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It doesn't change the fact that is racist statement.
titiklabingapat
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Nope man, it still sounds racist. Especially if you keep saying 'though im selectively wary against certain types'. That's classic racism.
Uhhh no fucking shit???
when someone says "negros de mierda" it has a racist connotation, so that's where nigger comes from
people in argieland actually use the word negro to refer to their friends too (you can call your friends "negro" or "negrito" and no one will flip) so it's complicated
so yea nigger in that context is pretty accurate
Let's not pretend racism is a South American problem. At least there's never been legalized segregation in Brazil.
Winterfang
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There's no Spanish translation for the word Nigger that I know off. Negro means Black, I've being called Negro/Negrito all the time in the Caribbean but it's a completely different story.
Still the translation means "Piece of Shit Black People" which still means you think people of a certain color are pieces of shit.
TheBaronOfNA
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Well, dunno if we have a equivalent derogatory term of the N-word but I think it tells a lot when in dubs of US media the N-Word is often suplanted by "negros/blacks".
True it depends of the context.
True, perhaps not the best place to post it with its zero-tolerance rules and the ability to be taken out of context. If a mod wants to ban me he's welcome to PM me beforehand, but my original post was more in the intent to clarify who was doing the rioting.
Anyway, to say it more tactfully, the people responsible for the riots are always the marginalized part of society. These things repeat themselves because the police scoop them up and less than 12 hours later they're out on the streets, and this occurs in everything from rioting to armed robbery. There's a lot of frustration here and the phrase I used is what has become a pretty normal way of thinking after decades of this. (To the fellow Argie, I never said everyone falls under this category)
Originally this was a celebration over our achievements in the World Cup, and it degenerated into this due to a small number of people who took advantage to loot a few wine bottles (I'm not exaggerating, they were literally looting a bar and walking out with bottles). What can I say, there's some complex social issues at hand.
and hilariosuly completely wrong
people that think like that are usually from buenos aires such as myself and who would've thought we're all immigrant descendants here, italian, spanish, poles, russians, you name it.
we're also a pretty decent minority, since buenos aires is like 10% of the population of the country.
so yeah, not only racist, but also ignorant and remarkably stupid
TheBaronOfNA
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Well dunno about you part of the continent, but the Mexican goverment has nasty story with indigenious people, even after the independence of Spain.
Most social issues of any sort aren't paid attention to. It's sad.
Actually it is a South American problem. And a Northern American problem. And a European problem. And an Asian problem. And an Australian problem. And an African problem.
smh
I've known the word negro to be used in a casual and social way or joke around with friends and shit but never have I ever seen it used as a racist connotation before....until now...
As someone that constitutes what is considered a negro de mierda in Argentina, I got some words for you: Andate a la puta que te pario, and stop embarrasing my future country with your shameful racist shit, Lord knows your kind are dying breed.
Please do not affirm to know the history of our continent when you dont even know the one of your own country, I implore to find and read articles written by your own Mário Filho about this subject, this is a good place to start for english speakers, or just read all the shit that was said about the guy that hurt Neymar.
WesternHeretic
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Seattle doesn't riot. WE DA BEST!
No, there is not a direct equivalent of the word in Spanish, but that's why the context matters- and "Negros de mierda" leaves no doubt to the question.
Also, "Negro" (in Spanish) doesn't always carry the same exact meaning that "Black" does in English. I have heard "Negro" in Spanish said in just as hostile of a manner as I've heard "nigger" said in English.
I feel like NeoGAF has had this same semantic argument before, and it results in running in circles.
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