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Arrowhead Games: "We want to be the next From Software or Blizzard"
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Which is precisely the point. Arrowhead are a much younger studio and have garnered this level of success and quality in its games. They're already outperforming FromSoft when you take into account how long the studios have been around.
You have just released 1 good game. Which is still extremely buggy. And you already want to compare yourself to Blizzard and From... that's silly.
Helldiver 2 is a massive hit and a very very good game; despite its bugs (what game isn't buggy nowadays?).
Anyway, they're not comparing themselves to Blizzard and FromSoft. They're saying they aspire to be like them in terms of being standout devs known for consistent quality games.
You should work on your reading comprehension.
And if they do, Helldivers 3 will be shit and Arrowhead's next game with a new publisher will be another mega hit.....
Sounds familiar, no...? Isn't that the exact same situation as with FromSoft going to Namco and making Dark Souls?
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James Sawyer Ford
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No, not guaranteed
A lot of HD2 success is due to Sony’s stewardship of the project and giving them the length of time and support needed
Sony can find a different studio to make HD3 with a similar formula
Mortisfacio
Banned
Cool aspiration, but a lot of work to go. From consistently puts out GOTY type releases. They rehash their same formula, sure, but they keep improving upon it and it's just soooo good.
Blizzard is what it is now, but peak Blizzard was just the best at what they do. Their stories were never great and still aren't, but their core gameplay in their ARPG and RTS were unrivaled.
Arrowhead made an improved, yet still generic extraction shooter. If my friends weren't playing it (they stopped now) I don't think I'd have more than 5 hours in the game. So to me, Arrowhead still has a long ways to go to be a well respected name.
Blizzard is what it is now, but peak Blizzard was just the best at what they do. Their stories were never great and still aren't, but their core gameplay in their ARPG and RTS were unrivaled.
Arrowhead made an improved, yet still generic extraction shooter. If my friends weren't playing it (they stopped now) I don't think I'd have more than 5 hours in the game. So to me, Arrowhead still has a long ways to go to be a well respected name.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Not at all.
You're giving Sony way too much credit and Arrowhead way too little.
Sony is known for their very hands-off approach with their devs, both internal and external partners. This implies that HD2's success comes largely as a result of the studio's own creativity, solid gameplay and system ideas and a very satisfying implementation.
There are a shit tonne of shooters on the market that are mechanically similar to HD2. None play like HD2 and have been anywhere near as successful. Arrowhead did that. They deserve praise for their great work and Sony won't be able to replicate it easily with another studio.
If making top-tier games with external studios was so easy, MS would not be in the position they're in today.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Sony actually isn’t hands off at all
Microsoft is hands off.
Sony is extremely involved in their external partner projects
Arrowhead gets plenty of credit but if they want to go elsewhere or own their IP it will be a big gamble to them
For Sony, it’s not a big gamble to get another talented studio to make HD3
Ideally they both continue working with each other
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Klayzer
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Sorry bro. I meant the love icon, not the empathy emoji. I agree one hundred percent with your take. Its insanely difficult to come up with a hit live service game. There's a literal graveyard of devs that has tried.
Tarin02543
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We want to be the next Arnold Schwarzenegger or Steven Seagal
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Agent_4Seven
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I mean, good luck with that I guess.
So far they sure showed how you need to support your game and make it better, while at the same time dealing with stupid idiots at Sony which almost ruined their games for no fucking reason but cock suckin' and greedy af shareholders. Keep it up Arrowhead, also try to make SP only games and maybe...
So far they sure showed how you need to support your game and make it better, while at the same time dealing with stupid idiots at Sony which almost ruined their games for no fucking reason but cock suckin' and greedy af shareholders. Keep it up Arrowhead, also try to make SP only games and maybe...
ResilientBanana
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This thread automatically turned to shit. Some users here are just hot take shit posters who probably won’t be banned due to ad revenue.
Anyway Arrowhead is a great studio with great games that I’ve never really had any complaints about. All have a great sense of humor and are fantastic to play. I really hope they become the studio they want to be and don’t lose their way as they approach their ambitions.
Anyway Arrowhead is a great studio with great games that I’ve never really had any complaints about. All have a great sense of humor and are fantastic to play. I really hope they become the studio they want to be and don’t lose their way as they approach their ambitions.
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FunkMiller
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You can be the second one by eating a million hot dogs and sucking off Vladimir Putin.
semiconscious
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FunkMiller
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Any game dev that wants to emulate FromSoft should be cheered from the fucking rafters.
S0ULZB0URNE
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Clearly they want to Aspire to be like these companies at their peak. They want to build games and put a lot of pride and effort into them. I know some of you are old enough to realize they're not talking about the state they are in now. I commend them for their efforts as going by some of their games, they have a really good track record. Going from Magicka to Helldiver's has been very solid for me.
Angry_Megalodon
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I have decided to have sex with Sydney Sweeney or Rachel Zegler
Puscifer
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I think they mean as a company that specializes in particular gameplay styles or appeal. I know several people who exclusively play Blizzard titles.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
A StarCraft Helldivers clone would be better.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Just make sure your next game sells millions and isn't on Xbox so I can use it as ammo.
All I ask
All I ask
recursive
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Maybe they aspire to make woke trash and skinner box looters.
Red5
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But I want an RTS game.
diffusionx
Gold Member
There are a lot of people who are instantly on board with anything From does, and that used to be Blizzard. So I think that's what he was talking about. It ultimately comes from earning a lot of trust from gamers that you are trying to make a game for their benefit instead of treating them like paypigs to be fattened and slaughtered. Because that is exactly how Blizzard treats its customers today and why their games are fading into irrelevance.
ozz ex machina
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Big aspirations for a dev who made an overrated game which nobody will be talking about in 18 months. But good on them.
JCreasy
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They’re going to need a better art team.
Helldivers character designs are very mediocre to me. That hasn’t slowed its success, but I truly believe great, enduring IP needs a compelling visual identity. And if they’re thinking about what’s next, that has to be a consideration.
If there’s one category they can improve on to become a championship contender, it’s art.
Helldivers character designs are very mediocre to me. That hasn’t slowed its success, but I truly believe great, enduring IP needs a compelling visual identity. And if they’re thinking about what’s next, that has to be a consideration.
If there’s one category they can improve on to become a championship contender, it’s art.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
They have always made co-op games even before the term live service game existed. Magicka was good.
Nothing inherently wrong with focusing on a genre. They’re good at it.
Roman Empire
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I like their optimism. By all means, do it guys.
Miyazaki’s Slave
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They probably don't care that much about offending Sony tbh. Their social media posts when the whole "link your playstation account" went down threw Sony immediately under the bus.
Put the pitch forks down...
I am not saying they were wrong to place responsibility at the feet of those responsible but if you are trying cozy up to someone you don't start the dog pile for a very public and very rough week of player animosity.
Put the pitch forks down...
I am not saying they were wrong to place responsibility at the feet of those responsible but if you are trying cozy up to someone you don't start the dog pile for a very public and very rough week of player animosity.
Moses85
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And they still own Demons Souls and Bloodborne
Freelance Yakuza
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Infernodivers
EDMIX
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StreetsofBeige
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They want to be Blizzard? So they want to be acquired? Well, that's some indie studios dream. Cash out being swalloeed up. CEO and VPs get big pay as they get golden parachuted a year later while the regular employees get assimilated into a new parent company.
Hudo
Member
That's fair but then they can't be the next From or Blizzard. Then maybe they should try to be their own thing.
Hudo
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Isn't Seagall master of Bullshido?
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yeah, I hope he's referring to classic Blizzard and Blizzard North, and not the current mangy shithead Blizzard.
GymWolf
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Rocinante618
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I'm NOT from the West and I find it kinda funny that:
Japanese devs (leave Square Enix out): work hard quietly, release bangers, super polite to fans, apologize profusely, thank for selling millions, thank fans. Record profits, bonuses, pay hikes, CEO's cutting pay to not fire devs, etc. No drama, no million tweets per day, no patting themselves on the back. No "messaging", no blaming fans/gamers if the game is bad, no overconfidence, no "we will be the next {insert major popular dev here}.
Arrowhead (and other Western devs): wE wAnT tO bE thE nExT fRoMSoft/bliZZard! Repeated poor realeases, "the message", gamers bad not our game, extremist!, season pass + cosmetics + powerup MTX, poor optimizations, shutting down studious, laying off many gamedevs, banning mods, circlejerking, etc
Japanese devs (leave Square Enix out): work hard quietly, release bangers, super polite to fans, apologize profusely, thank for selling millions, thank fans. Record profits, bonuses, pay hikes, CEO's cutting pay to not fire devs, etc. No drama, no million tweets per day, no patting themselves on the back. No "messaging", no blaming fans/gamers if the game is bad, no overconfidence, no "we will be the next {insert major popular dev here}.
Arrowhead (and other Western devs): wE wAnT tO bE thE nExT fRoMSoft/bliZZard! Repeated poor realeases, "the message", gamers bad not our game, extremist!, season pass + cosmetics + powerup MTX, poor optimizations, shutting down studious, laying off many gamedevs, banning mods, circlejerking, etc
Hudo
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What is "The West"?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
FromSoftware? Okay.
Don't be fucking Blizzard!
Don't be fucking Blizzard!
AREYOUOKAY?
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Arrowhead Games: "We want to be the next From Software or Blizzard"
Helldivers 2 developer Arrowhead on the success of its game, what comes next and dealing with toxic playerswww.gamesindustry.biz
Blizzard?
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MonkeyClaw36
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Dont reply if you dont know what you're on about. Makes you look like a tool.