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[Phoenix]

This is a never ending maw to feed. I can guarantee you that if you gave them exactly what they wanted, they'd still be crying that they are broke and can't invest in the infrastructure or some other such nonsense. The simple fact was stated by them in their earlier quotes, Netflix and everyone else already pays for bandwidth and access to deliver content.

If you don't like what you're getting paid, then charge everyone more - that's your right, just don't prevent other ISPs from offering a better service when people walk off your network (like some are about to do with Level 3).

 

[Lion Heart]

Liberals come out in support of Stop The Meter | OpenMedia.ca



Please if you are Canadian sign the petition at OpenMedia.ca, it takes a few seconds

I'm going to have kids just so they can sign this shit.

 

[polyh3dron]

Damn those users for actually using their internet service.

 

[Yasae]

I'm going to take more of an optimistic approach and say that they will, knowing that if they impose Draconian regulations on their customers, there's a good chance that a moderately well-financed upstart could steal their customers in droves.

I understand your concern; I just don't think it will be as dire as some people are making it out to be.

Also, don't those European ISPs offer some high-end tier that ups the usage cap? Not sure what the pricing structure is, but if I needed considerable bandwidth I'd probably just pay it because of my priorities. Again, I don't know how the pricing works with those companies, so forgive me if I'm overlooking something.

Moderately well-financed startups haven't really offered good competition so far. Clear Corp has waltzed into Austin recently, and their prices and data plans are worse if you aren't interested in their 4G "Spot" coverage (basically cell-phone data coverage that's a bit faster.) Whether or not their price points are realistic and uninflated, their alternatives have been poor.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

this infuriates me so much.

 

[Dead Man]

Between Activision allegedly charging MS for driving subscriptions, and the US cell phone model including charging people to receive calls, I think ISP's have been getting jealous. Everyone else is getting paid twice, or for driving traffic, they want some of the action. What a fucked situation.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

man aussie/NZ must be laughing right now, they put this garbage in place at the start of the internet, so people just think capped garbage IS the internet.

I can't imagine the PR nightmare of having to make awesome internet into shitty internet in the eyes of the public.

 

[clav]

man aussie/NZ must be laughing right now, they put this garbage in place at the start of the internet, so people just think capped garbage IS the internet.

I can't imagine the PR nightmare of having to make awesome internet into shitty internet in the eyes of the public.

Less is more.

That would piss me off if they were to spin it like that.

And some how now I can't get that Charmin Ultra Soft toilet paper commercial music out of my head.

 

[BeEatNU]

this infuriates me so much.

I'm with you.

shit like this pisses me off.

 

[Cereal KiIIer]

Less is more.

That would piss me off if they were to spin it like that.

And some how now I can't get that Charmin Ultra Soft toilet paper commercial music out of my head.

And it gets even worst, because now you are conscious of your breathing and can't find a comfortable place for your tongue.

 

[Takao]

Fuck US telecom companies. You have shitty networks that you refuse to upgrade even though it would solve your bandwidth problems, all so you can whine and moan and charge people more for shittier service. Google or someone needs to start an ISP that will bring the US up to date with the rest of the world in terms of bandwidth and embarrass all these fuckwads.

Man, thank you CRTC for making me feel like an Australian circa 2007 when reading this thread.

 

[br0ken_shad0w]

I once worked at an ISP's abuse department and one thing I learned there was this: 3-5% of the overall userbase created significant bandwidth issues for the rest of the network. 24-7 downloading with monthly intakes that were so absurd corporate would ask us to doublecheck our numbers. Along with that came tons of threats from content providers and software publishers--they knew what was going on, and some of their hacked software would transmit alert messages back to them, so they could make very real legal threats to the company if we didn't do something about it.

ISPs might be money-hungry (what company isn't?), but there is some validity to their argument. No free rides basically sums it up.

You forgot the part where transfer caps don't relieve congestion.

 

[Captain Sparrow]

I have yet to see a really good reason why they shouldn't do this except for a lot of "monopoly!" and "this is ridiculous!". ISPs have every right to do so.

It's not like unlimited data usage is helping our economy. Most of this traffic is torrenting and Netflix. I don't need my internet clogged up because of your movie renting. If you want to do more with yours, you have that option....

 

[br0ken_shad0w]

I have yet to see a really good reason why they shouldn't do this except for a lot of "monopoly!" and "this is ridiculous!". ISPs have every right to do so.

It's not like unlimited data usage is helping our economy. Most of this traffic is torrenting and Netflix. I don't need my internet clogged up because of your movie renting. If you want to do more with yours, you have that option....

:lol at how wrong you are.

 

[Phoenix]

I have yet to see a really good reason why they shouldn't do this except for a lot of "monopoly!" and "this is ridiculous!". ISPs have every right to do so.

It's not like unlimited data usage is helping our economy. Most of this traffic is torrenting and Netflix. I don't need my internet clogged up because of your movie renting. If you want to do more with yours, you have that option....

Has your Internet ever been 'clogged up'? We keep hearing that someone needs to unclog the tubes, but there is no evidence that the infrastructure is 'clogged up'. The current state of the Internet is that 'interstate' has limited traffic but some onramps are congested because the lanes are too narrow.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Any whining by any communications company is pure bullshit.

In the '90s, they were given $200 billion to upgrade their shit and get everyone ready for the broadband future. It was all wasted, and the waste amount has actually gone up to $300 billion. Instead of using their tax breaks and funding to upgrade their infrastructure and wire everyone in the country, they blew it on old technology and typical business shenanigans.

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090821/whatisbroadband/

In the run-up to the Telecommunications Act of 1996, the incumbent telecoms promised to provide fiber-optic connections to millions of households across the country. In exchange, they were given some $200 billion in tax cuts and higher service rates to pay for it. But the telecoms didn’t spend that money on fiber upgrades; they spent it on long distance, wireless and inferior DSL services.

When AT&T, Verizon, and everyone else involved pays the country back our $300 billion, then they're allowed to whine like fucking babies again.

 

[Phoenix]

Any whining by any communications company is pure bullshit.

In the '90s, they were given $200 billion to upgrade their shit and get everyone ready for the broadband future. It was all wasted, and the waste amount has actually gone up to $300 billion. Instead of using their tax breaks and funding to upgrade their infrastructure and wire everyone in the country, they blew it on old technology and typical business shenanigans.

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090821/whatisbroadband/



When AT&T, Verizon, and everyone else involved pays the country back our $300 billion, then they're allowed to whine like fucking babies again.

What you mean 512K DSL to limited pockets of America wasn't the telecommunications revolution that they claimed it was? Heresy!