Wifi on the 2.4GHz band is 2.412 to 2.452GHz. The clock frequency listed in the FCC filling for the Dev kit refers to something else (probably not the APU as Jaguar cores only go up to 2GHz).
The RAM.
Wifi on the 2.4GHz band is 2.412 to 2.452GHz. The clock frequency listed in the FCC filling for the Dev kit refers to something else (probably not the APU as Jaguar cores only go up to 2GHz).
Doesn't the PS4 have an audio chip too?
Wow, you've got the specs of Sony's audio chip? Do tell.As far as we know it is 100% true.
Wifi on the 2.4GHz band is 2.412 to 2.452GHz. The clock frequency listed in the FCC filling for the Dev kit refers to something else (probably not the APU as Jaguar cores only go up to 2GHz).
didn't think of it - lolThe RAM.
Where's my penny arcade comic?
Yeah, the quote says "better" implying a better audio chip than PS4's.
This is Microsoft in regards to the Xbone.
No you cannot add them, if you can you might as well add the bandwidth for each separate memory model in the PS4, since each module is being accessed at the same time.The ESRAM and DDR3 work simultaneously so you CAN add the bandwidths. It is not inaccurate. Meaningless stat though.
Albert's track record on the "technical facts" is very poor. He should stick to things he knows like the name of the product, it's price and ship date. All important marketing stuff.
You mean this one http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1782673&postcount=6777
It have been already addressed in page 2, 3 in this thread. Also he didn't talk about adding bandwidth.
You guys are just having trouble imagining how the less powerful console could, in actuality, be the more powerful console.
No you cannot add them, if you can you might as well add the bandwidth for each separate memory model in the PS4, since each module is being accessed at the same time.
Those guys would never be that harsh to Microsoft. They might not get invited to the next Microsoft event, or have dinners out with high ranking Xbox guys so often if they did.
I remember right after the XB1 reveal event Brian Crecente mentioning he ran into the Penny Arcade guys "and they loved it".
Granted it was in 1989 he has a degree in communications. Major Nelson has been blogging, tweeting and working the social media angle for Xbox for awhile now. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post in any of these threads. He does seem to post in /r/xboxone though. But probably because they worship him there lol
Add internet bandwidth and cloud computing and you practically get a system that scales in power as internet speeds increase!
I think this one:
is the only one that'll give them an advantage, mainly the audio chip. I remember reading audio takes a lot of cpu cycles/power. PS4 still more powerful, though. As a casual observer, the 50% less CUs part just seems like a dagger, maybe not through the heart but through a kidney or something.
Because we all (most?) understand that those differences are due to architectural designs...not necessarily computational power..Which is weird, since we've seen that play out repeatedly this generation, as the 360 beat the Cell-powered PS3 in most multiplats.
Is the X1 chip better or same?
So why is this Ars article taken as fact and not ERP who is a known dev?
It's not really the opposite at all. Just more elaborate.Well a former ps4 dev posted on b3d last night and said just the
opposite of ARS...
So why is this Ars article taken as fact and not ERP who is a known dev?
CU's are MASSIVELY underutilized on vertex heavy workloads and plenty of the frame will be ROP or bandwidth limited
Doesn't the Kinect have its own processor or something? Why does it need to use that audio chip?Keep in mind that their audio chip is only that beefy because of Kinect.
Which is actually kind of weird, considering the leaks we got from them during the PS3 era.Sony is like a prude, they know how to keep their lips shut.
What!!!!
Is adding more CU cores to the GPU a bad thing now? Is that the new MS spin?
Dear God, didn't see this coming!
That already happened at Hotchips, we have slides from AMD/MS and everything I thought?
How does one become a former PS4 dev?Well a former ps4 dev posted on b3d last night and said just the
opposite of ARS...
Next up: The 32 ROPS and higher pixel/texture fillrate on the PS4 is unbalanced.That actually came up a few weeks ago.
I remember there was a discussion about how 18 CUs are "unbalanced" and shit like that.
Aren't a few of them locked away for GPGPu use though?That actually came up a few weeks ago.
I remember there was a discussion about how 18 CUs are "unbalanced" and shit like that.
Aren't a few of them locked away for GPGPu use though?
Aren't a few of them locked away for GPGPu use though?
How does one become a former PS4 dev?
That actually came up a few weeks ago.
I remember there was a discussion about how 18 CUs are "unbalanced" and shit like that.
Yet, as bad as they have been at PR, it will be a total shame that a half billion dollar ad campaign will wash it all away from memory.
No, from what I gather (and someone correct me if im wrong) a few of them(4?) have a little secret sauce (lol) that allows for some additional compute voodoo...this is where the whole 14+4 unbalanced nonsense came from...Aren't a few of them locked away for GPGPu use though?
The only thing Sony will need to advertise is the fact it is $100 cheaper. While the Xbox has a big fanbase, I suspect it's high price will deter many.Surface and Windows phone 8 that even extensive marketing cant save a undesirable product.
Luckily the Xbox one is still one, even in its original form.
More desirable than the PS4? time will tell.
So wtf did he initially "develop" on the PS4!?...considering, ya know, just about all of it (on the software side) is still being developed?By taking a job not having to do with PS4 development?
So wtf did he initially "develop" on the PS4!?...considering, ya know, just about all of it (on the software side) is still being developed?
Because this ERP has been constantly downplaying the PS4 since its announcement? I haven't one positive post of his posted here yet.
So wtf did he "develop" on the PS4!?
And he left mid development? Real team player...sounds like a genuine dudeHe used to develop a game on PS4? What's so hard to understand about it?
No...but it brings about questions to his motives...that's all...Who knows? You can be a PS4 developer and take another job not in PS4 development and still be a former PS4 developer, though.
Just because he left the company before the console's release does not mean he should lose credit for any of the work he actually did during the development process of whatever project he was attached to.
You mean this one http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1782673&postcount=6777
It have been already addressed in page 2, 3 in this thread. Also he didn't talk about adding bandwidth.
Just adding up bandwidth numbers is idiotic and meaningless.
What ERP said doesnt support Penello's argument at all .. it's just that some people are trying to use it as a leverage.So wtf did he initially "develop" on the PS4!?...considering, ya know, just about all of it (on the software side) is still being developed?
No...but it brings about questions to his motives...that's all...