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As a multi-console owner, why do I even care?

Porridge said:
360's just a genuinely hardcore gaming console.

My opinion is that MS has basically inherited Sega's "attitude" and presence. Xbox360 is almost like this generation's Sega Genesis, which is very cool to me.


I've always wandered what is the definition of hardcore

Bald space marines or difficult games?

this?
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or this?

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I care and I have a PS3 and a 360, I did own a Wii but sold it.

I like the PS3 more because I haven't had crap customer service and it doesn't break down :/

I really like the upcoming games on both and once MS fixed their DRM and consoles I probably won't care as much. That is until UEDA releases their game :D
 
Onix said:
Really?

Based on last gen (if not the last two) ... I fully expect PS3 to get more niche titles ... so I'm not sure where you're coming from.
Depends on what you define as niche title.

P3? Katamari? Sure.
Ikaruga? CLANNAD? Rez? Not so sure.
 
CitizenCope said:
It could be as simple as the 360's controller was made by God and the PS3's controller was made by an idiot.

God would make a better D-pad.

And the PS3 controller is not awful . . . it worked for the previous two generations. But it has become out-dated. Especially in view of the 360 controller.
 
Multi console owner and I tend to 'root' for the 360 only because it's where I spend more than 95% of my game time. However, if a truly good game comes out on another platform nothing is going to stop me from desiring that game or giving it praise when it is deserved.

Of course everyone is rightly justified in hating the Wii, just look at Konami's pre-TGS press conference :D

I jest you fanboy idiotards.

The only reason I really have any disdain for any of the consoles is that the fans are so likely to defend a game simply based on its platform. It's so goddamned annoying when someone makes a legitimate complaint and instead of offering intelligent rebuttal there are just a bunch of lulz, troll, hater, fanboy accusations thrown around.
 
speculawyer said:
He didn't feel that way when he bought them.


Ok, fair! But why does he still own a PS3 & Wii, why not sell them? Or maybe he feels more legit trashing consoles because he can fall back on "well I own a PS3/Wii" None of it makes sense to me.

PS: open_mouth_ , I'm not trashing on you, but this confuses me! I read statements like this all the time I hate a certain system, but I own it. I just don't get it, myself personally I purchased a Wii & ended up unhappy with it, so I sold it.

Are you planning on selling your PS3 & Wii?
 
Souther said:
Like i said. your being too hasty.

I agree that from what has been shown..the PS3 is the more difficult to get the most out of off the bat. But I believe it has come farther faster than what the 360 was doing at the same time in its life.

Once developers learn how to get the most out of the PS3 it will eventually shows its technical superiority.

Games...now thats that different matter.
I definitely agree. I just own a PS3 and 360 (plan to get a Wii though), but my support is for PS3, because of its controller, Sony having an awesome first party lineup coming, and just liking everything the console has to offer. With my 360 breaking and giving me problems, that has made me feel quite negative towards it.
 
Mindlog said:
The only reason I really have any disdain for any of the consoles is that the fans are so likely to defend a game simply based on its platform. It's so goddamned annoying when someone makes a legitimate complaint and instead of offering intelligent rebuttal there are just a bunch of lulz, troll, hater, fanboy accusations thrown around.

At the same time there's those retards who will automatically hate a game based off the system it's on.
 
Take heart! There's no crime in loving something that is good and beautiful, and feeling scorn for things that are evil and ugly.
 
I love threads like these where we get to take consumer culture the the next horrific level and talk openly about which multinational we want to jihad for on the internet.

I'm personally going to side with the NeoGeo this generation, because I always love to root for the underdog.
 
Because while we may like having access to all the AAA games that being a multiplatform owner provides, we tend to favor one company and their policies and options or exclusive titles over another.
 
I think it boils down to bad fanboys that bring out the system preference in you. I mean it's kinda stupid to route against a console you spent money to own.
 
Campster said:
I love threads like these where we get to take consumer culture the the next horrific level and talk openly about which multinational we want to jihad for on the internet.

I'm personally going to side with the NeoGeo this generation, because I always love to root for the underdog.
Gizmondo is where it's at man
 
Hopefulyl, I'll be getting a 360 by the end of the year -- even had a dream about it recently -- but I'll always be Wii first. Reason being is mostly b/c of control.
 
mm04 said:
Hah I feel the same way. But the reason I feel that way is that the fans of certain consoles annoy me more than others. Does having a laugh when a console company screws up and it makes their fans sad, make me evil? Seriously, I really think that at the root of it all, most people hate the fans of the brand, not the brand itself. Sometimes, its like sports. I don't necessarily hate a team, but their fans are enough for me to root against them.

lots of good responses in here. I knew you wouldn't let me down GAF :) I think this constant one-upping of each other by fanboys has ingrained some of this loyalty in me to an unhealthy degree. sometimes, like mm04 said, you want sony to do bad just to get a rise from the sony fanboys. it's sick. I want to stop having these feelings because I want to just be able to enjoy all the best games without thinking about what platform it's on and liking it better if I'm playing it on the 360 over the PS3/wii and vice versa. I probably sound like a whiny bitch right now, but I know I'm not alone in this.
 
I wanted to get a 360 last year when i first seen NHL07. I went and bought 07 because i figured that in like 2 weeks i was definitely buying a 360.

I remember seeing Lost Odyssey and freakin out. But then.....yup...all the news about the redring basically scared me from buying 1. Now if this would have been a small case and would have been cleared up then i wouldn't have any problem picking one up...but when the consoles are still dying and your reading posts about how some people have had to send a console back up to 3-4 times, well that basically settles it for me.

I want a 360, but until this redring bullshit is cleared up i won't buy 1.

When i look at Wii....the only reason i want 1 is because of virtual console. Wii is really kickin ass in that regard.

I just wish Sony would start picking up the pace of its PS1 downloads. Its going good on the JP store...but its pretty poor on the NA side.

Now that i think of it....The only real time i could say that i was a "fanboy" was when the Dreamcast came out.
 
As annoying as fanboys may be, there is nothing irrational about having a preferred console in and of itself. It's not like you get the same experiences from each of them.
 
KTallguy said:
I'd love a one console future.

I know it'll like... never happen though :(


That would make GAF and the industry so boring. :P

So how about those NPD numbers this week......:lol
 
I was a multi console guy but the exact same happened, I spent all my gaming time on the 360. One day I realised this and just thought what is the point and sold my other consoles and handhelds. I'm probably missing out on 10% (max) of what I'd be bothered about at the mo.

The only twinge I might (will) feel, will be for Little Big Planet, the GAF posts on that will be bitter pills to swallow :D
 
open_mouth_ said:
lots of good responses in here. I knew you wouldn't let me down GAF :) I think this constant one-upping of each other by fanboys has ingrained some of this loyalty in me to an unhealthy degree. sometimes, like mm04 said, you want sony to do bad just to get a rise from the sony fanboys. it's sick. I want to stop having these feelings because I want to just be able to enjoy all the best games without thinking about what platform it's on and liking it better if I'm playing it on the 360 over the PS3/wii and vice versa. I probably sound like a whiny bitch right now, but I know I'm not alone in this.

That is pretty much it.

It is like two completely different worlds for me on and off gaming forums. Although me and my friends have "favorite" systems, i can't recall any hostility stemming from it, ever. We like all 3 systems to varying degrees. But here on forums it is like i stepped into fucking preschool. I honestly feel that GAMING FORUMS in particular are the root of the problem. I really, truly hope that all 3 console makers next gen ignore these fucking nerds and take real life surveys with real people.
 
Multi-console owner. I like them all equally though truth be told I spend two thirds of my gaming time on my 360.
 
I prefer having Nintendo #1 because they're the smallest of the big three (right?). They also made Super Mario 3, so they can do whatever the fuck they want and I'll still love them. The Wii represents something fresh, something I want as a jaded, longtime gamer. It presents me with a variety of my old favorites and largely intuitive ways to experience genres that may have grown stale. I like the possibilities and graphics, as a trump card, have mattered less and less to me. Something I'm happy for and something I feel the Wii has helped stress.

Sony I respect, but I've never found their controller design or first-party software very enticing. I love the PS3 hardware however so I'm hoping they have at least moderate success with the console. PSP is irrelevant to me because of its horrid physical design. I was a late Sony adopter by most standards, but the PS2, at this point, is probably the best system in existence.

Microsoft is kind of baffling for me. They're very receptive to their audience and do a lot of the things that I wish Sony/Nintendo would do in terms of strategy and aggressive market behaviour (America fuck yeah?). Still, I find myself constantly unhappy with the game selection that doesn't cater to my tastes. Its not so much Microsoft, but my own preferences that do not sync up. I mean fuck, I don't own a single retail 360 game. That will change with Halo 3 and I applaud them for their XBL approach and robust feature set.



Basically, I love all the systems for their own reasons, but I generally root for Nintendo on the basis of nostalgia, being smaller, and the direction they're trying to drive the industry. If they succeed, the game industry succeeds.
 
KTallguy said:
I'd love a one console future.

I know it'll like... never happen though :(

Thank god. Nothing could be worse for console gaming than the elimination of competition and the innovation that it spawns. Total hardware expenditures would drop for the hardcore gamer, but everything else would suck ass.
 
If you are playing a game that you enjoy it shouldn't matter what system it is for. The same can be said for the type of game you are playing. If someone binges on Solitaire Poker for 3 days straight and another person binges on World of Warcraft for 3 days straight, which of the two gamers is the hardcore gamer? Thing is, both are.
My personal belief is that your gaming habits should define if you are a hardcore gamer or not. Not the types of games that you play. My wife plays card games, sudoku, pokemon and Text Twist. She puts in about 3-5 hours a week gaming. Myself, I play everything from Wii Sports to Bioshock to Guitar Hero to Metroid Prime 3. My gaming takes up 10-20 hours a week of my time. I consider both my wife and myself to be hardcore gamers even though we play very different types of games.
 
Kaervas said:
I've always wandered what is the definition of hardcore

If you are playing Mega Man right now then you are hardcore. Personally i draw the line with Mega Man X, because that was my first mega man game.
 
Souther said:
I wanted to get a 360 last year when i first seen NHL07. I went and bought 07 because i figured that in like 2 weeks i was definitely buying a 360.

I remember seeing Lost Odyssey and freakin out. But then.....yup...all the news about the redring basically scared me from buying 1. Now if this would have been a small case and would have been cleared up then i wouldn't have any problem picking one up...but when the consoles are still dying and your reading posts about how some people have had to send a console back up to 3-4 times, well that basically settles it for me.

I want a 360, but until this redring bullshit is cleared up i won't buy 1.

When i look at Wii....the only reason i want 1 is because of virtual console. Wii is really kickin ass in that regard.

I just wish Sony would start picking up the pace of its PS1 downloads. Its going good on the JP store...but its pretty poor on the NA side.

Be patient they have to have a fix known in house. If they have as big a holiday season as they are expecting...man...if they don't have a fix and the river flows with RROD it will sink them. I think they announced the 3 year warranty plan when RD/QA at least gave them a report that they figured out what it is and can fix it. If they couldn't even pinpoint it I doubt they would offer users that warranty.

I used to work for a company that handled logistics and arranged customer service during a recall action for companies. What MS did is one rung below a full recall , it's an inhouse corrective action type deal , they probably assigned a code to all 360 units prior to a certain date. I bet by next year it will be almost non existant. I can't imagine down the line with a 30 million plus userbase and still suffering from widespread RROD , no , they had to pinpoint the issue.
 
As a PS3/360 owner, I find myself much more interested in PS3 news, not really sure why. I sort of let the 360 news "come to me" (via browsing random GAF threads or talking to others) but I actively seek out new PS3 news and look for exciting things on the horizon...I don't even pay attention to 360 conferences while I can't wait for Sony's keynote at TGS.

Not really sure why, I have fun on both systems.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Thank god. Nothing could be worse for console gaming than the elimination of competition and the innovation that it spawns. Total hardware expenditures would drop for the hardcore gamer, but everything else would suck ass.


See I agree with statement. I wish all three consoles had even hardware numbers. It would insure that all console prices come down fast, it would also mean that the majority of games get made for all 3 systems. (besides 1st party)
 
DarkJC said:
As a PS3/360 owner, I find myself much more interested in PS3 news, not really sure why. I sort of let the 360 news "come to me" (via browsing random GAF threads or talking to others) but I actively seek out new PS3 news and look for exciting things on the horizon...I don't even pay attention to 360 conferences while I can't wait for Sony's keynote at TGS.

Not really sure why, I have fun on both systems.

Same here. I'm more interested in what Sonys doing but i still like to know what MS is up to aswell considering the 360 is an eventual purchase for me.
 
you guyz! really, if there's any gen where it's soooo easy to not give a shit one way or the other, it's this one. i mean....everyone has fucked up colossally at some point. Sony pricing their hardware to cater to the Scrooge McDucks of the world, thus selling less hardware, thus getting weaker dev support. MS making vital components of their hardware out of gram crackers and cobwebs, plus charging for XBL. Nintendo....Nintendo is doing ok as far as industry fuck-ups but on a personal level i wish it was more powerful. i also hate their new approach of pulling in people who don't game. if i buy a game console i want games, not fitness class or cooking class.

they're all awesome and just a way to do what it is that i want to do which is play some damn games. 33/33/33/ market split would be awesome. think of the competition! nobody would be coasting, they'd all be busting their asses to impress us...the consumer. fuck the companies, WE run this shit! thank you, and goodnight.
 
I believe you should give me your PS3. I'll tell you why: if you love exclusives being announced for X360 you'll love it even more if you don't have the PS3 and feel like you made the wisest choice keeping it over the others and at the same time you won't feel dumb for disliking the PS3 as you wouldn't have it anymore. Plus, I'd let you brag before me when exclusives go the xbox way. Cool deal, huh?
 
mcgarrett said:
Yeah, it's so well designed that MS had to write off $1 billion in warranty costs.

well obviously, RROD is the biggest issue the system has - but since now we have like a bazillion year warranty, and the latest systems they have shuttled onto the market seem to have gone a long way to diminishing these issues, it's pretty much on its way to being a non-issue within a year or so.

Not even every single 360 ever made breaking down could make it inferior to the Wii and PS3, however. It's just that much better.
 
for me, it's like this. i own all three consoles. i honestly believe that i am not biased towards one or the other, however i right now would tell you i prefer the xbox 360.

i don't celebrate when ps3 exclusive, a wii exclusive or a 360 exclusive becomes non exclusive and i don't celebrate when a multiplatform title goes exclusive, because there's a reason i own all three systems (and the reason why it pains me that my pc died recently and i can't affor a new one just now)

if there's a great i want to be able to play it.

now the reason i stand by my feelings about not being biased is this.

i don't care what system a game is on.

right now there is a serious lack of titles on the PS3 that appeal to me, compared to the wii and 360. that's a truth. i'm not overlooking titles on the ps3 that might appeal to me because i'm biased against it, it just doesn't have enough games that appeal to me yet.

when a mp game comes out, i will buy it on the system it is best on. stranglehold... i have no regrets about waiting for the ps3 version to get hardboiled. i don't resent it for being better on ps3 or having to use the sixaxis to play it, or whatever.

just as has happened with blu-ray, i will like the ps3 more once it has more games on it that appeal to me. i don't doubt that this will happen, and i really don't care which system wins the system war.

i've said this a whole bunch. i want to see as close to a three way tie as we can get because i geniunely think all three systems have their own strengths and i'd like to see developers give them as equal support as possible.

it's all about the games... but what happened in the past has no bearing on what happens tomorrow, for me at least... and a system is really just an empty vessel. like it because you can put great games in it, not because of fond memories in the past, how it looks, or how many gigaflops it can do.

Metroid Prime 3 wasn't any less of an awesome experience than Bioshock... and Bioshock wouldn't have been any less of an experience on the PS3.

platform agnostic is the way to be... you're in the right track...

but you're right, you shouldn't care. you can play all the games... and the more systems a game is released on, the more choice you have over preferred controller/online experience/whatever.
 
I think the only solution is that you're crazy; these are just electronic boxes made by megacorps, designed to offer you fun in exchange for money. They're not your children.
 
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