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AskMen's Top 29 Cities to Live in 2009

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Holy shit, Vancouver had a 94% approval rate, by far the highest.

One thing I didnt understand was for NY, it had livability high and good life low...I would think good life would be maxed out, considering what is available to people with money. Its expensive to live there so why is livability high?
 
cloudwalking said:
no zürich on the list, city with the highest quality of living in the entire world?
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Quality of living doesn't really matter.

- are once-in-a-lifetime events coming up ?
- lots of professional sports teams ?
- celebrity chefs ?
- Michelin stars ?
- does it have a fashion week ?
- cost of living low ?
- lots of single women ?
- smart women ?
- lots of sunshine ?
etc.

Those were the criteria for AskMen.com apparently.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
i dont get why vancouver is always near the top of the list. its a great city but half of it is full of crack heads and prostitutes.
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i hear the babes are hot as shit and in great abundance there ..
 
Goldrusher said:
Quality of living doesn't really matter.

- are once-in-a-lifetime events coming up ?
- lots of professional sports teams ?
- celebrity chefs ?
- Michelin stars ?
- does it have a fashion week ?
- cost of living low ?
- lots of single women ?
- smart women ?
- lots of sunshine ?
etc.

Those were the criteria for AskMen.com apparently.
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all of those things add up to a damn fine quality of living, if you ask me.
 
dabookerman said:
London O_O Number 4.. what the hell???

To LIVE in as well.. not just to visit. Wow

London is a Shit hole.
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Don't start with that bullshit. I can't fucking stand self-hating British people who attack London. It is a great city despite all the god damned whining in these sort of threads.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
i dont get why vancouver is always near the top of the list. its a great city but half of it is full of crack heads and prostitutes.
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Its called character. Every city has to have character and we have it in spades. Vancouver is the light that shines out from the darkness that is Canada.
 
im not surprised my city isn't on the list lol. it's a pretty nasty brown throughout 8 months of the year.

mine would prob be:
Montreal
New York
Vancouver
Calgary
Paris
London
Tokyo
Amsterdam

and im not just blindly listing cities. out of all the ones i've been to, these are the ones i'd love to live in. switzerland would be great too.
 
A lot of good citys on the list but is has some flaws.
Copenhagen on #9 but Stockholm isn't even on the list? Give me a fucking break.
Berlin on #7 is another joke. That city is butt ugly, i would never want to live there.
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
Don't start with that bullshit. I can't fucking stand self-hating British people who attack London. It is a great city despite all the god damned whining in these sort of threads.
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I live in London. It's horrible to drive in, cultural segregation everywhere, crime is high, already been mentioned how expensive it is to live here. Most people would mention the weather (I actually like the cold rainy weather).

Maybe if the poll was based on the center of London and it only accounted for rich people then.. maybe, but London is a big city, and the bigger picture is, it's a crap place to live in.
I won't take away the whole visiting, because London is nice to visit, but that's not what the discussion is about.

Oh, and before anyone asks why I still live here? I am trying to move out lol, but it's not particularly easy.
 
New York is the best, no question. But since the list is written by Americans, I'm not surprised they picked some random other city to put at the top. Ironically, most Americans don't "get" New York. Their dependency on sprawl, SUVs, cookie-cutter housing, and chain restaurants is just that strong.
 
AstroLad said:
New York is the best, no question. But since the list is written by Americans, I'm not surprised they picked some random other city to put at the top. Ironically, most Americans don't "get" New York. Their dependency on sprawl, SUVs, cookie-cutter housing, and chain restaurants is just that strong.
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AskMen is canadian dood! They were bought out by IGN who was bought out by Fox but they're still located in Canada.
 
koam said:
AskMen is canadian dood! They were bought out by IGN who was bought out by Fox but they're still located in Canada.
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I'm not familiar with the site's background--but the article itself and some of its choices just reek of American influence.
 
Big-E said:
Its called character. Every city has to have character and we have it in spades. Vancouver is the light that shines out from the darkness that is Canada.
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Not to mention that the majority of those crackheads are confined to about a 3-square block area.
 
AstroLad said:
New York is the best, no question. But since the list is written by Americans, I'm not surprised they picked some random other city to put at the top. Ironically, most Americans don't "get" New York. Their dependency on sprawl, SUVs, cookie-cutter housing, and chain restaurants is just that strong.
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Maybe New Yorkers don't "get" America. Chicago has that city/city neighborhood feel, while retaining the feel of this "America" you speak of.
 
AstroLad said:
New York is the best, no question. But since the list is written by Americans, I'm not surprised they picked some random other city to put at the top. Ironically, most Americans don't "get" New York. Their dependency on sprawl, SUVs, cookie-cutter housing, and chain restaurants is just that strong.
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How does that even make sense? Most of the cities picked on the list are known for none of that - especially the numerous foreign cities listed.
 
reilo said:
How does that even make sense?
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Occam's Razor as to why on Earth anyone would rank a midwest city over NY. The biases of the writer can still be reflected and have an effect on the list even if it's not blatant like "OKLAHAMA CITY NO 1!"
 
AstroLad said:
New York is the best, no question. But since the list is written by Americans, I'm not surprised they picked some random other city to put at the top. Ironically, most Americans don't "get" New York. Their dependency on sprawl, SUVs, cookie-cutter housing, and chain restaurants is just that strong.
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That's not Chicago, though. The city is anything but sprawl, cookie-cutter housing and chain restaurants. Lots of SUVs though.

The burbs are like that, but the article isn't describing the burbs when they talk about living there. As a city-dweller, I hate the burbs with a passion.

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Occam's Razor as to why on Earth anyone would rank a midwest city over NY. The biases of the writer can still be reflected and have an effect on the list even if it's not blatant like "OKLAHAMA CITY NO 1!"
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I don't think you understand Chicago at all. The list explains exactly why it's on the list-- all the benefits of a big city-- world class everything-- but less expensive and less crowded than most. You sound as if it's not possible to rationally prefer Chicago to NYC.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
That's not Chicago, though. The city is anything but sprawl, cookie-cutter housing and chain restaurants. Lots of SUVs though.

The burbs are like that, but the article isn't describing the burbs when they talk about living there. As a city-dweller, I hate the burbs with a passion.
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It's funny, there is something particularly Chicagoan about hating the suburbs. I remember feeling the same way growing up there. In fact when I moved to Arizona for high school, nothing annoyed me more than people saying they were "from Chicago" and being from some suburb but they've "been to the city a bunch of times" though they knew nothing about it. I was nostalgic for Chicago so this was particularly disappointing to me ("Oh you're from Chicago too! Where did you live? [We moved ten times when I lived there, so I've lived in basically every area of Chicago.] Oh, Hoffman Estates. I see.").
 
AstroLad said:
In fact when I moved to Arizona for high school, nothing annoyed me more than people saying they were "from Chicago" and being from some suburb but they've "been to the city a bunch of times" though they knew nothing about it.
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I always encountered this being from Orlando (less so now living in Chicago, but all the time before when I was in Tallahassee). People would be genuinely shocked when I told them I was actually from Orlando itself and not just the metro area. I know that happens everywhere with large metro cities, but it felt more prevalent to me in this case.
 
AstroLad said:
It's funny, there is something particularly Chicagoan about hating the suburbs. I remember feeling the same way growing up there. In fact when I moved to Arizona for high school, nothing annoyed me more than people saying they were "from Chicago" and being from some suburb but they've "been to the city a bunch of times" though they knew nothing about it. I was nostalgic for Chicago so this was particularly disappointing to me ("Oh you're from Chicago too! Where did you live? [We moved ten times when I lived there, so I've lived in basically every area of Chicago.] Oh, Hoffman Estates. I see.").
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Although I've lived within the city proper for 4 years I'll still say I'm from the Chicago area, even though I'm probably more of a Chicagoan than many of its residents. Nothing more poseurish than some fucking Naperville douche bag claiming to be a Chicagoan. It's like constantly walking through Wrigleyville.
 
AstroLad said:
It's funny, there is something particularly Chicagoan about hating the suburbs. I remember feeling the same way growing up there. In fact when I moved to Arizona for high school, nothing annoyed me more than people saying they were "from Chicago" and being from some suburb but they've "been to the city a bunch of times" though they knew nothing about it. I was nostalgic for Chicago so this was particularly disappointing to me ("Oh you're from Chicago too! Where did you live? [We moved ten times when I lived there, so I've lived in basically every area of Chicago.] Oh, Hoffman Estates. I see.").
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I moved here 15 years ago, and not knowing the city, I initially moved to Oak Park, one of the most city-est suburbs. but as soon as my workplace was in the loop, I moved into the city and never looked back.
 
People shouldn´t be bothered so much by the rankings. A list like this will never be even generally accurate, let alone align with what you think. I mean, in their "analysis" of Madrid, they promote the bull-fighting but not the museums. So think about who they´re catering to.

DevelopmentArrested said:
i dont get why vancouver is always near the top of the list. its a great city but half of it is full of crack heads and prostitutes.
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CygnusXS said:
Not to mention that the majority of those crackheads are confined to about a 3-square block area.
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I should wrap up that point by saying that I haven't seen that sort of hostility towards the "suburbs" anywhere else I've lived (LA, NY, PHX in the states) but I defintely saw it and harbored it myself while in Chicago. I guess Chicago is just all about Class Warfare (which explains Obama, but I digress).
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
Don't start with that bullshit. I can't fucking stand self-hating British people who attack London. It is a great city despite all the god damned whining in these sort of threads.
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:lol
 
AstroLad said:
I should wrap up that point by saying that I haven't seen that sort of hostility towards the "suburbs" anywhere else I've lived (LA, NY, PHX in the states) but I defintely saw it and harbored it myself while in Chicago. I guess Chicago is just all about Class Warfare (which explains Obama, but I digress).
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Aren't you a lawyer? How could you be smart enough to get through law school and still be calling Obama a class warrior? He appointed Geithner and Summers, free market fellators to the end, to the two most important economic positions; similar to FDR in the 30s Obama is saving capitalism from itself not bringing us socialism.
 
Which of these is low-cost living (relatively speaking)? I live in Miami and shit ain't no joke as far as living expenses.
 
LA and Miami being on the list suggests the author just looked at, like, the promotional pamphlets from the cities' tourist centers to get the sumbitch in on deadline. No one in their right mind would settle down in LA or Miami.

Edit - I'm not sure why LA's music scene is considered a huge selling point. I've lived here a couple years and it seems to get basically the same circuit of performers that San Francisco or Portland does.
 
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