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[denshuu]

People are too hung up on the American / English dynamic. These games have always been about the Assassin / Templar conflict. Connor even says in the trailer that he just wants to "let the patriots fight their own battles." He's mostly fighting against English people because... Yo... The Knights Templar were English people. There's no reason to think there aren't going to be people on both sides of the background conflict who are on the same side of the main conflict, just like every other Assassin's Creed game.

 

[Revan]

I don't know if this has been posted already or not but here is Wii U gameplay in Boston:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uMWGq3aNFOM

Looks sick - apparently you CAN go through houses to escape.

 

[Irish]

MP Footage

 

[JB1981]

Has anyone noticed that it has lost a lot of the stealth and now is just pretty much a hack and slash. I'm not even sure how they can call it Assassin's Creed anymore. I hope they just took out the action segments for the conference. It would have been much better if it was still set someplace in Europe. There didn't seem to be that amazing atmosphere that the first two games had. The main character also seems like he's too serious. I wish they made another easy-going character. I'm just taking this from the conference footage, so hopefully it's a lot different.

No. Quite the opposite, in fact. I have noticed that they have enhanced stealth gameplay. Now you can actually take cover behind a wall (whereas before all you could do was this odd thing where you stood against a wall with your two hands in front of you, kind of leaning on it). You can now "ride" haystacks rather than them being completely stationary whcih gives you a lot more freedom to decide how and when to take out a target. You can hide/blend into grass and brush. This is MUCH better than the blend mechanics previously where you would just blend into the crowd (looks like you can still blend in by sitting on a bench or amongs people standing tho). And now you can also escape inside buildings!

As far as "hack n slash" goes, it only looks like they have massively improved the combat, making it more fluid and easier to pull of combos (similar to Arkham City). I don't see how anyone could say that stealth has been diminished. The game looks so good! Oh and Parkour and the running animations also look amazing. As you can see I'm impressed with this game!

 

[ultron87]

Has there been any mention of Desmond stuff?

It'll be interesting to see what they do with his part of the story and how they justify having to relive another ancestor's life. (It'll probably just be something like needing some ancient key that was hidden long ago.)

 

[xxracerxx]

The wife kept thinking it looked like a Red Dead Redemption sequel.

 

[JB1981]

The wife kept thinking it looked like a Red Dead Redemption sequel.

which makes it even more awesome.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

People are too hung up on the American / English dynamic. These games have always been about the Assassin / Templar conflict. Connor even says in the trailer that he just wants to "let the patriots fight their own battles." He's mostly fighting against English people because... Yo... The Knights Templar were English people. There's no reason to think there aren't going to be people on both sides of the background conflict who are on the same side of the main conflict, just like every other Assassin's Creed game.

The developers are largely French, right? And weren't the French major assholes and enemies in one of the Ezio sagas? HOW COULD THEY MURDER THEIR OWN KIND?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

French-Canadian.

Are there any meaningful differences between the WiiU and PS3/360 versions? It doesn't seem like it.

But damn, this game looks so fucking good.

 

[TheLight]

I didn't see Italians crying in any of the Rennaisance games. Who cares who is killing, he's an assassin who kills templars and will kill anyone who gets in his way, which are the british.

It's a damn game, who gives a shit.

 

[Alucrid]

Tangentially related, but I just got an email from Amazon and it looks like they're shipping out the steelbook editions that Best Buy had a white ago as standard for the time being.

 

[twobear]

I didn't see Italians crying in any of the Rennaisance games. Who cares who is killing, he's an assassin who kills templars and will kill anyone who gets in his way, which are the british.

It's a damn game, who gives a shit.

I think the major difference is that in the previous games the good guys/bad guys were lined up along factions (the Borgias, the Pazzi, the Doge), and not nations. I can't speak for anyone else but my main worry is that the game is just going to be cheerleading the USA. I know that they've said a few times that it's not like that but if you look at ALL the PR so far that's how it's been. All they've shown is Connor killing British people, quotes from Washington's speeches (or whoever), VOs about freedom and liberty, the boxes have American flags on them and a durned evil Redcoat about to get scalped. And, you know, the reaction from a lot of people is basically what you'd expect: "yay, I can't wait to kill Redcoats", "I really hope in this game I can kill the bastard traitor Benedict Arnold!", etc.

Their justification has also been incredibly flimsy: "it's not about the USA because the USA didn't exist until 1781(?), it's a civil war". Do people in the US think it was a civil war? I'd be very surprised.

And to cut people off at the bridge, before they point out that the team is French-Canadian, I think that's completely irrelevant. They're making a product, they're making something which they want to sell, they're not making a work of art. And they clearly are worried that they're alienating people because they're incredibly keen to claim at every opportunity (such as that bizarre conference bit post-demo) that it's not a game about how the British are evil and the Americans are great.

Basically, I'll be very surprised if the game is something other than twelve hours of tedious Fuck-Yeah-America-ism. I'm more interested in the PSVita game.

If I were a betting man I'd put money on the final boss being travelling to England to kill George III at this point. I'm hoping, at least, that one of the followup games might be set during the French Revolution.

The reason I give a shit is that frankly this shit is overdone and tedious, and I'm not interested in plopping down £45 on a game that just informs me that America is the greatest country on earth because Freedom. If I wanted that I'd just watch GOP candidate speeches.

 

[GQman2121]

Has there been any mention of Desmond stuff?

It'll be interesting to see what they do with his part of the story and how they justify having to relive another ancestor's life. (It'll probably just be something like needing some ancient key that was hidden long ago.)

Honestly, that stuff is so unnecessary at this point. The sections where you're controlling Desmond are clearly the worst parts of the series. I can guarantee you if they could go back and do it all over again Desmond wouldn't exist in the original game.

Templars and Assassins. That's all they need to focus on.

 

[ape2man]

AMERCIA TREES FUCK YEAH.

, THAT NAVAL BATTLE... WOOOOOOWWWWW

 

[rataven]

Honestly, that stuff is so unnecessary at this point. The sections where you're controlling Desmond are clearly the worst parts of the series. I can guarantee you if they could go back and do it all over again Desmond wouldn't exist in the original game.

Templars and Assassins. That's all they need to focus on.

I'd occasionally find Desmond entertaining when he was bantering with Lucy, Sean, and Rebecca. But after recent developments, that's never really going to be same again.

At this point, I'm only curious to see what he looks like. Dude's had three different models over four games. And Rev's was pretty bad.

 

[iNvid02]

they need to get desmond's story out of the way so the series becomes really free

i would be ok with him dying and somehow becoming a piece of code in the animus, in future games the animus chair can have the personality of desmond

 

[Irish]

Adding animals was a pretty great idea. Stuff like the rats and dogs just walking around seems to add so much more life to the cities for some reason.

 

[LightofRohan]

Hehe, I liked what I heard one of the Ubisoft employee's saying on the show floor about 'killing only british!' hate. "Both sides were basically British then..."

And I got a private viewing of the game and asked some random questions. Seems like

Spoiler

connor getting his ship is a big moment and is a triumph (later on in the game)

and you can board any of the ships. I don't really believe that though...

Game looks fantastic! Saw the guy play through Boston on the Wiiu. Nuts! Have you guys seen Connor(?) climbing up the ships masts, swinging around the ropes? So neat looking.

 

[giancarlo123x]

MP Footage

Coming out Oct 30th on WiiU? Hmmmm...

 

[marc^o^]

French-Canadian.

Are there any meaningful differences between the WiiU and PS3/360 versions? It doesn't seem like it.

But damn, this game looks so fucking good.

I saw an interview which said the gamepad would be used to provide a full map of the scenes, an inventory, + other features that will be revealed at a later stage.

About the graphics, I have no idea but it looks damn good.

 

[Mojojo]

I saw an interview which said the gamepad would be used to provide a full map of the scenes, an inventory, + other features that will be revealed at a later stage.

About the graphics, I have no idea but it looks damn good.

in the WiiU video , the Ubi rep says you can manage inventory from the gamepad without pausing the game, just by sliding or typing which is neat.

 

[Instro]

French-Canadian.

Are there any meaningful differences between the WiiU and PS3/360 versions? It doesn't seem like it.

But damn, this game looks so fucking good.

Sounds like they just recompiled the code for a straight port.

 

[Dark Octave]

Steel tree branches?

 

[7echnicolor]

MP Footage

I hope all the multiplayer maps aren't like this.
I'm gonna miss the city gameplay if so.

 

[Vahagn]

Reading through this thread, It's obvious most the people here haven't actually played Revelations.


This game had to be in Colonial America because the next piece of the modern day Desmond puzzle is in upstate New York, Also the game's timeline is such that a huge catastrophe needs to be avoided before 12/21/2012 (The Mayan Calendar situation) meaning that this year's release has to bring a resolution to the problem so to speak.


Also, Don't be surprised if George Washington is a Templar. He was a Mason in real life after all, and his reaction after Connor kills the British Templar in the CG Trailer isn't one of approval, it's one of concern. WTF Just Happened

 

[Wallachia]

@MP Footage.. lol, this is the mode for the Brits to get revenge

 

[Mithos]

Wii U version

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/06/05/assassins-creed-3-wii-u-6-minute-gameplay-demo-e3-2012

Posted?

edit - I guess so but different websites vids of same gameplay section.

Yeah but this version do not seem to have the framerate drops like the Gametrailer video one.

 

[twobear]

Reading through this thread, It's obvious most the people here haven't actually played Revelations.


This game had to be in Colonial America because the next piece of the modern day Desmond puzzle is in upstate New York, Also the game's timeline is such that a huge catastrophe needs to be avoided before 12/21/2012 (The Mayan Calendar situation) meaning that this year's release has to bring a resolution to the problem so to speak.


Also, Don't be surprised if George Washington is a Templar. He was a Mason in real life after all, and his reaction after Connor kills the British Templar in the CG Trailer isn't one of approval, it's one of concern. WTF Just Happened

Really? He looks down at his troops, sees that they are invigorated, and then smiles.

There is NO WAY they will make Washington a Templar. I will eat several crows.

 

[LightofRohan]

Really? He looks down at his troops, sees that they are invigorated, and then smiles.

There is NO WAY they will make Washington a Templar. I will eat several crows.

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed in previous AC's that Washington IS a Templar.

 

[UrbanRats]

Really? He looks down at his troops, sees that they are invigorated, and then smiles.

There is NO WAY they will make Washington a Templar. I will eat several crows.

Yeah, they probably don't have the balls to do it, but it would be awesome.

 

[NinjaFridge]

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed in previous AC's that Washington IS a Templar.

He was a Freemason, who at some point came into possession of an Apple of Eden.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Really? He looks down at his troops, sees that they are invigorated, and then smiles.

There is NO WAY they will make Washington a Templar. I will eat several crows.

They will do something like the Washington group of Masons were actually good Templars that broke away.

 

[twobear]

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed in previous AC's that Washington IS a Templar.

Not at all. He ended up with a Piece of Eden. I'm assuming Connor trusts it to him because he is the only TRUE AND TRUSTWORTHY PERSON IN THE WORLD*.






*Aside from the other founding fathers, who are all also perfect human beings.

 

[astroturfing]

there's dogs in the game? cool. can i do jumping assassinations from rooftops on them?

 

[Kinyou]

Yeah, they probably don't have the balls to do it, but it would be awesome.

What about assassinating Lincoln in one of the sequels....?

lol

 

[GeneralManager]

Not at all. He ended up with a Piece of Eden. I'm assuming Connor trusts it to him because he is the only TRUE AND TRUSTWORTHY PERSON IN THE WORLD*.






*Aside from the other founding fathers, who are all also perfect human beings.

You're free to not purchase the game. I guess though you're also free to bitch about the same thing on every AC thread.

You know what, they are lying. The game clearly doesn't seem as even handed as they say. They clearly feel the reaction in the US is more important. Deal it with.

God savez the Queenz.

 

[UrbanRats]

What about assassinating Lincoln in one of the sequels....?

lol

Yeah, why not? I mean at a certain point they'll have to admit that the Assassins are really the bad guys, "nothing is real, everything is permitted" sounds like a psycho statement, to me.

 

[keltickennedy]

They will do something like the Washington group of Masons were actually good Templars that broke away.

Maybe, the Assassin's Creed logo does share close similarities to the Freemason's crest.

 

[Caelus]

I think it was stated somewhere that Lincoln was an assassin and John Booth was a Templar, kind of weird.

I like the idea of Tesla being an assassin and Edison being a Templar, though.

 

[Pandemic]

I really want to see an Assassins Creed game set in modern day, that'd be sweet.

But this games once step closer to that idea.

 

[iNvid02]

Yeah, why not? I mean at a certain point they'll have to admit that the Assassins are really the bad guys, "nothing is real, everything is permitted" sounds like a psycho statement, to me.

its nothing is true

, i think the other saying was "Nothing is real, everything is allowed, - that sounds garbage though

but yeah maybe one game could be about a rogue assassin who took things to far or succumbed to the pieces of eden, like al mualim but younger who is a better assassin than the guy you play as

 

[UrbanRats]

its nothing is true

, i think the other saying was "Nothing is real, everything is allowed, - that sounds garbage though

but yeah maybe one game could be about a rogue assassin who took things to far or succumbed to the pieces of eden, like al mualim but younger who is a better assassin than the guy you play as

Sorry man, i was translating from the Italian version by memory.

 

[iNvid02]

Sorry man, i was translating from the Italian version by memory.

unless the voice actors are terrible, i bet playing the game in the native language of the era adds to the immersion,

that would be pretty cool

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

I think the major difference is that in the previous games the good guys/bad guys were lined up along factions (the Borgias, the Pazzi, the Doge), and not nations. I can't speak for anyone else but my main worry is that the game is just going to be cheerleading the USA. I know that they've said a few times that it's not like that but if you look at ALL the PR so far that's how it's been. All they've shown is Connor killing British people, quotes from Washington's speeches (or whoever), VOs about freedom and liberty, the boxes have American flags on them and a durned evil Redcoat about to get scalped. And, you know, the reaction from a lot of people is basically what you'd expect: "yay, I can't wait to kill Redcoats", "I really hope in this game I can kill the bastard traitor Benedict Arnold!", etc.

Their justification has also been incredibly flimsy: "it's not about the USA because the USA didn't exist until 1781(?), it's a civil war". Do people in the US think it was a civil war? I'd be very surprised.

And to cut people off at the bridge, before they point out that the team is French-Canadian, I think that's completely irrelevant. They're making a product, they're making something which they want to sell, they're not making a work of art. And they clearly are worried that they're alienating people because they're incredibly keen to claim at every opportunity (such as that bizarre conference bit post-demo) that it's not a game about how the British are evil and the Americans are great.

Basically, I'll be very surprised if the game is something other than twelve hours of tedious Fuck-Yeah-America-ism. I'm more interested in the PSVita game.

If I were a betting man I'd put money on the final boss being travelling to England to kill George III at this point. I'm hoping, at least, that one of the followup games might be set during the French Revolution.

The reason I give a shit is that frankly this shit is overdone and tedious, and I'm not interested in plopping down £45 on a game that just informs me that America is the greatest country on earth because Freedom. If I wanted that I'd just watch GOP candidate speeches.

There will be the Whigs vs the Torries no doubt. And he's fighting Templars. It just so happens that the pawns in place between Connor and his targets are British soldiers.

Chill out with racist "America fuck yeah" comments. It's pathetic. History happened, the colonists won. These games show pivotal moments in HUMAN history. There's no doubt that the independence of America had a world wide effect.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

They will do something like the Washington group of Masons were actually good Templars that broke away.

I've mentioned this in past threads but was shot down because they felt Mason's weren't Templars. They were wrong because my father in law is a Mason and I've been inside their walls.

 

[twobear]

You're free to not purchase the game. I guess though you're also free to bitch about the same thing on every AC thread.

You know what, they are lying. The game clearly doesn't seem as even handed as they say. They clearly feel the reaction in the US is more important. Deal it with.

God savez the Queenz.

I'm mainly just disappointed that they've completely moved from the Assassin's motto being 'nothing is true, everything is permitted' to 'truth, justice and the American way' over the course of the games.

I'll happily eat all the crows if, against everything they've shown, this game turns out to be something else, though!

There will be the Whigs vs the Torries no doubt. And he's fighting Templars. It just so happens that the pawns in place between Connor and his targets are British soldiers.

Chill out with racist "America fuck yeah" comments. It's pathetic. History happened, the colonists won. These games show pivotal moments in HUMAN history. There's no doubt that the independence of America had a world wide effect.

At what point did I ever claim that the colonists didn't win or that it wasn't an important moment point in world history? I've only ever claimed that there are ways to explore this part of history which I will find interesting and there are ways to tell it that I will find tedious and they seem to be taking the latter route. You think it will be awesome, cool for you.

What do you think is racist here, anyway? To claim that Americans are often patriotic?

 

[UrbanRats]

unless the voice actors are terrible, i bet playing the game in the native language of the era adds to the immersion,

that would be pretty cool

I guess they're good enough if you don't understand Italian (they're average anime/cartoon/videogame dubbing, anyway).
I personally played it with the english dub for the most part, for comedy reasons, but Assassin's Creed 2 is one of those super rare cases where the original VA is not really superior to the dubbing (because of the weird half english half italian script).
But it was hilarious trying to understand what the fuck Ezio was saying, after

Spoiler

killing Duccio

.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

I'm mainly just disappointed that they've completely moved from the Assassin's motto being 'nothing is true, everything is permitted' to 'truth, justice and the American way' over the course of the games.

I'll happily eat all the crows if, against everything they've shown, this game turns out to be something else, though!



At what point did I ever claim that the colonists didn't win or that it wasn't an important moment point in world history? I've only ever claimed that there are ways to explore this part of history which I will find interesting and there are ways to tell it that I will find tedious and they seem to be taking the latter route. You think it will be awesome, cool for you.

What do you think is racist here, anyway? To claim that Americans are often patriotic?

The majority of red coat kills will be the faceless pawns. But I'm betting the main targets will come from all sides. I'm just saying not to worry about it.

 

[Blimblim]

I'm not sure if it's been posted or not already, but I've just got a commented version of the gameplay sequence shown at E3, and this time it was properly encoded at 30 fps too, so quality is quite good
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_ac3_commented_gameplay-12989_en.html

 

[GeneralManager]

I'm mainly just disappointed that they've completely moved from the Assassin's motto being 'nothing is true, everything is permitted' to 'truth, justice and the American way' over the course of the games.

I'll happily eat all the crows if, against everything they've shown, this game turns out to be something else, though!



At what point did I ever claim that the colonists didn't win or that it wasn't an important moment point in world history? I've only ever claimed that there are ways to explore this part of history which I will find interesting and there are ways to tell it that I will find tedious and they seem to be taking the latter route. You think it will be awesome, cool for you.

What do you think is racist here, anyway? To claim that Americans are often patriotic?

Americans aren't a race, so nothing you say would be racist. Maybe stereotypical.

As for patriotism. I'm seeing a lot more defensive patriotism from the British than any sort of celebratory Patriotism.

To put it another way it's a lot more "Waaah America" than "Fuck ya, America."