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Assassin's Creed 3 Wii U is Identical to other Platforms

I'm not want to be rude but the only ramifications we can deduce, it's the Wii U barely overtakes ps360 power.

I just discussed several and could do more, but am on my phone. I know GAF falls to gamefaqs levels of retarded when approaching console launches, but it'd be nice if people could try rubbing two braincells together to make a thought.
 
"oh its better than/as good as 6 year old hardware lawl great achievement" has become the most irritating phrase used in Wii U threads. Why not try to contribute to the conversation instead of regurgitating the same phrase which, sorry, isn't clever and witty, nor new or unique.
It's unfortunately true. If the Wii U was so much more powerful than PS360 we would immediately see graphical enhancements, and yet this is not the case for now.

Why not discuss the ramifications of what this means, or why? For example, I see it as evidence that the Wii U is in the same ballpark as our current generation (surprise, you would've needed eyeballs to guess this a year ago) but clearly a step above, in that they got a generation spanning engine up to parity for the launch. This holds promise for future PS360 ports more easily being definitive on U.
The only problem here is that next-gen consoles are just around the corner, how Wii U versions will compare to the Orbis/Durango ? I expect those machines to be at least 6-8x more powerful than the Wii U. I don't see Wii U multiplats being on par unless the development is made for the lowest denominator primarily which would be very disappointing.
 
I just discussed several and could do more, but am on my phone. I know GAF falls to gamefaqs levels of retarded when approaching console launches, but it'd be nice if people could try rubbing two braincells together to make a thought.

You take the matter too much seriously. :/ anyway no one doubt wii U could more, but just how much more.
 
According to the statement it is identical with the pc version as well. Is the Pc now last gen? Is the PS3 now equal to a modern pc? Is the Wii U on par with a gaming PC? So many interpretations. Of course only one is mentioned here. 6 Year old hardware lol, bla. Some people are really easy to predict.
 
According to the statement it is identical with the pc version as well. Is the Pc now last gen? Is the PS3 now equal to a modern pc? Is the Wii U on par with a gaming PC? So many interpretations. Of course only one is mentioned here. 6 Year old hardware lol, bla. Some people are really easy to predict.

This logic is quite weird :/
 
It's unfortunately true. If the Wii U was so much more powerful than PS360 we would immediately see graphical enhancements, and yet this is not the case for now.


The only problem here is that next-gen consoles are just around the corner, how Wii U versions will compare to the Orbis/Durango ? I expect those machines to be at least 6-8x more powerful than the Wii U. I don't see Wii U multiplats being on par unless the development is made for the lowest denominator primarily which would be very disappointing.
Of course it's true. Doesn't change the fact we don't need such insight from people who apparently have been utterly oblivious to every single piece of media or news released about the Wii U up to that moment. It's like a startling revelation to some I guess?

Why don't people consider how this might push the other two consoles for a longer cycle, having a gigantic userbase of PS360U users? Maybe this means we'll see more exclusives instead, like the Wii where the vast majority of its quality third party titles came from. Maybe the quirky experiences will find a home on it. Perhaps less prolific Japanese publishers who had trouble adopting to this gen might find it safer to put their resources behind Nintendo.

You take the matter too much seriously. :/ anyway no one doubt wii U could more, but just how much more.

I'm just sick and tired of every Wii U thread containing such drivel. I have many complaints about it too, and agree with many negative standpoints, but I don't see how it gives people a free ride to post worthless crap. I came to GAF as it had a more reasonable and mature environment than any other boards I frequented, but every system launch it just seems to go out the window and boil into vitriol instead of gaming discussion
 
According to the statement it is identical with the pc version as well. Is the Pc now last gen? Is the PS3 now equal to a modern pc? Is the Wii U on par with a gaming PC? So many interpretations. Of course only one is mentioned here. 6 Year old hardware lol, bla. Some people are really easy to predict.

Joke post ?

But you are free to entertain the idea that all (PC included) versions will be similar....You are in for a rude awakening though.

Of course it's true. Doesn't change the fact we don't need such insight from people who apparently have been utterly oblivious to every single piece of media or news released about the Wii U up to that moment. It's like a startling revelation to some I guess?
You are right in the sense that some people have a clear cut agenda and have decided to shit on the Wii U at every possible occasion. I assume you take offense at the posters and not at the intrinsic content of their post.
From that perspective, it does not change the fact that they are correct (but biaised). The goodside is that when the Wii U will really start to gather momentum you will gladly mock them.

Why don't people consider how this might push the other two consoles for a longer cycle, having a gigantic userbase of PS360U users? Maybe this means we'll see more exclusives instead, like the Wii where the vast majority of its quality third party titles came from. Maybe the quirky experiences will find a home on it. Perhaps less prolific Japanese publishers who had trouble adopting to this gen might find it safer to put their resources behind Nintendo.
I would be ALL for this. More variety the better.
 
"oh its better than/as good as 6 year old hardware lawl great achievement" has become the most irritating phrase used in Wii U threads. Why not try to contribute to the conversation instead of regurgitating the same phrase which, sorry, isn't clever and witty, nor new or unique.

Why not discuss the ramifications of what this means, or why? For example, I see it as evidence that the Wii U is in the same ballpark as our current generation (surprise, you would've needed eyeballs to guess this a year ago) but clearly a step above, in that they got a generation spanning engine up to parity for the launch. This holds promise for future PS360 ports more easily being definitive on U.

Or maybe it suggests the hardware isn't as simple as Nintendo made it out to be. Surely a company like Ubisoft should've been able to capitalize on its hardware strengths with all its resources at its disposal. But maybe they didn't consider those resources necessary as there's no chance its useebase will support sales to justify the effort. At the same time, parity and pad features assures early adopters Ubisofts quality towards the hardcore market, and that they're being treated more seriously than we saw from the Wii launch.

But no. Lawlz it can match 6 year old hardware lololol

Traditionally a move to "Next Gen" indicates that the games will look/run better than the previous Generation. Even if it is better resolution or frame rate something has been improved. This is not happening here and we are getting parity at launch. Even the most made fun of launch port last generation for 360 Gun had improved resolution. It makes for easy hit and run commentary just like Gun did yet that actually did show improvement from gen to gen so go figure. I guess if you want to say the Jump from Wii->WiiU at launch is greater than the jump from Xbox->360 but to a lot of people you cant really count that because these other devices exist, have existed for years and are also competing for your gaming $$$. These samey ports and minimal effort first party titles aren't really drawing certain people in for a early purchase. Not that that matters, the thing will probably be sold out on new console hype and the Nintendo base support alone.

I figure that the graphics will be a step up from what we currently have once devs get a handle on it but it wont be a huge upgrade. This is disappointing to some. Graphics are not my biggest issue with the WiiU ironically. I have a PC that will deliver in this department if I am so worried about it.
 
Not even able to run it at a higher resolution on next gen hardware?

I honestly think if it did have any capabilities above the other versions they wouldn't say so. I'm almost sure sony and Microsoft have been trying their best to threaten them into playing down the WIIU. How else do you explain the ME3 situation and then the ME Collections.
 
I just discussed several and could do more, but am on my phone. I know GAF falls to gamefaqs levels of retarded when approaching console launches, but it'd be nice if people could try rubbing two braincells together to make a thought.

You're too reasonable for this thread! Lol.

Anywho, Wii U threads are pretty much always the same here on Gaf. No matter how hard one tries to bring positive news (not saying the OP was positive or negative, but more neutral), if you miss the thread for a couple hrs, and come back to read it later...yeah, it goes to the crapper somehow.

What I don't understand is that there are people I feel are genuinely ticked at Nintendo (maybe Wii adopters who found out that the system was not for them I can understand), but have no reason to. Nintendo doesn't have a gun to their heads saying, "U haev to by ore produck!"

Buy what suits you and leave others to buy what suits them. Enjoy your games and be merry. Not saying people can't raise their concerns/opinions, but don't do it in way where you're obviously trying to troll. "Lawl better than 6 yr old tech, lol", "Wii U for kids rofl", does get old after a while.
 
This is awesome news. It confirms technology had stood still for the last 7 years. Feels good not to go out and buy new shiny awesome things.
 
I honestly think if it did have any capabilities above the other versions they wouldn't say so. I'm almost sure sony and Microsoft have been trying their best to threaten them into playing down the WIIU. How else do you explain the ME3 situation and then the ME Collections.

That's neurotic conspiracy theory crap. If it had the capability. They would have done it.
 
This is awesome news. It confirms technology had stood still for the last 7 years. Feels good not to go out and buy new shiny awesome things.

Ah yes, when a developer decides to make a multiplatform WiiU/PS4/X720 the same port across those platforms in 2014, I'm sure this logic will be very popular on GAF as it works now.
 
Is this what's being counted as a win for Wii U hardware now?

Anyways, I still wouldn't rule out framerate problems or something, wait for analysis. You know how this PR nonsense is.

Hey, parity is, something. Good or bad it's something. It implies Wii U isn't weaker than PS360.
Why are you not banned yet?

I'll believe it's got parity with the PS360 version when I see it.
I don't think you'll believe it even then.

I can't believe we're at a point where we're concerned whether Wii U games will be as good as platforms from 6-7 years ago.
Only the trolls and those with weak egos think Wii U will be less powerful than 360/PS3.

Oh thank goodness. For a little while I could have sworn the Wii U was somewhat less powerful than the current gen systems.

Yeah me too. Based on what I've read in the Wii U threads I was going to cancel my preorder.
 
According to the statement it is identical with the pc version as well. Is the Pc now last gen? Is the PS3 now equal to a modern pc? Is the Wii U on par with a gaming PC? So many interpretations. Of course only one is mentioned here. 6 Year old hardware lol, bla. Some people are really easy to predict.
You know the PC version will look and run better than each of the console versions, there's no need to act dense.


edit: having parity with the last gen versions is not a success but should be the lowest baseline for third parties going forward until Orbis/Durango.
 
Ubisoft is both a blessing and a curse. Take could of gone the easy route and made the Wii U version run like shit but instead they mustered the time to not set the bar below what the best of current gen can handle!

It's like being punched in the face and then offered bandages for your wounds.
 
Ah yes, when a developer decides to make a multiplatform WiiU/PS4/X720 the same port across those platforms in 2014, I'm sure this logic will be very popular on GAF as it works now.

Yes it will be extremely sad if PS4/X720P can only do Wii-U level graphics but awesome for the wallet!
 
Now who is being disingenuous now? You know the PC version will look and run better than each of the console versions.


edit: the "parity with last gen versions, yay" line has been used so often because it's true, simple as that.

Thing is, people read that to mean the entire system is just as powerful/capable as those systems also. THAT is disingenuous.

Yes it will be extremely sad if PS4/X720P can only do Wii-U level graphics but awesome for the wallet!

They won't, just like Wii U is capable of much more than 360/PS3 level graphics.
 
Man, five pages from a confirmation on CONTENT not graphics. Graphically, it could vary from the 360's chugging to PC Master Graphic Settings. The guy in the OP isn't talking about that, because graphics aren't even consistent across consoles. He's talking about content. He's talking about what missions you're given, what levels you can traverse. There's nothing cut from the content, and that's impressive considering how long AC3 has been in development and how long 3rd parties have had development hardware. Even Ubisoft. The longest could be about a year and a half or so, and this has been a 3-4 year dev cycle crunched down on brand new hardware with it's own quirks and oddities. This is an impressive feat by any standards, irregardless of how powerful the WiiU is or is not. It really doesn't matter if it's going to look evidently "better". Not even the PS3 and 360 looked like it does today out of the gate. Even less so with diminishing returns with graphics technology.

Please people, gain some perspective. You guys are hopping around like a bunch of howling bamboos.
 
Now I feel bad for having made this thread.

I think I should have just discussed the matter in the official Wii U thread.

I never thought I would have to justify myself but alas...I did not want this thread to turn into this. I'm sorry you will have to take my word for it, I had no trolling intentions.
 
Why don't people consider how this might push the other two consoles for a longer cycle, having a gigantic userbase of PS360U users? Maybe this means we'll see more exclusives instead, like the Wii where the vast majority of its quality third party titles came from. Maybe the quirky experiences will find a home on it. Perhaps less prolific Japanese publishers who had trouble adopting to this gen might find it safer to put their resources behind Nintendo.

Agreed. I've said it a few times that the introduction of the Wii-U, along with overall budgets, could prolong support for the current gen hardware. My only concern would be what type of support will the Wii-U see once support for current gen consoles dries up. I guess overall software sales on the Wii-U would dictate that.

I laughed entirely too hard. 10/10

So it was a joke?

Buy what suits you and leave others to buy what suits them. Enjoy your games and be merry. Not saying people can't raise their concerns/opinions, but don't do it in way where you're obviously trying to troll. "Lawl better than 6 yr old tech, lol", "Wii U for kids rofl", does get old after a while.

While I agree, to be fair, the silliness comes from both sides. I think some people who may be too excited for the Wii-U are mistaken that the system will be closer to the other two next gen systems and their posts reflect it.

Another perfect example of a silly post can be found here:

I honestly think if it did have any capabilities above the other versions they wouldn't say so. I'm almost sure sony and Microsoft have been trying their best to threaten them into playing down the WIIU. How else do you explain the ME3 situation and then the ME Collections.

lol thanks for the laugh. Can't believe some people actually think this happens.
 
I can tell we are going to have some really fun years ahead :3

Yes it will be extremely sad if PS4/X720P can only do Wii-U level graphics but awesome for the wallet!

I can play original NES Zelda on my 3DS and my wallet was not helped any.
Yes extremely sad that the 3DS can only play NES level games amirite?
 
Now I feel bad for having made this thread.

I think I should have just discussed the matter in the official Wii U thread.

I never thought I would have to justify myself but alas...I did not want this thread to turn into this. I'm sorry you will have to take my word for it, I had no trolling intentions.

The damage is done. You've gotten everyone all riled up!

/sheesh
 
The damage is done. You've gotten everyone all riled up!

/sheesh

I plead not guilty. I'm fully aware that hardware debates can get rather heated especially when a new console is around the corner but I was not expecting this.

In a way it bodes well for the Wii U's sales, it will hit the headlines.
 
Now I feel bad for having made this thread.

I think I should have just discussed the matter in the official Wii U thread.

I never thought I would have to justify myself but alas...I did not want this thread to turn into this. I'm sorry you will have to take my word for it, I had no trolling intentions.

what Official Wii U thread is that? We don't have those anymore so we have to deal with this kind of discussions and skirt around bans and trolling attitudes
 
Being brand new hardware and seeing what happened with the PS3 and port jobs, yeah to be honest. Not a "WOO YEAH HOORAY!" win, but a win nontheless.

That was only because the PS3 was a bitch to code for. They are just rushing the port out to coincide with the Wii U release.
 
I like how people quoted my post while I was editing so now there's three different versions of the same post in this thread. :D I really shouldn't be so edit-happy.

Now I feel bad for having made this thread.

I think I should have just discussed the matter in the official Wii U thread.

I never thought I would have to justify myself but alas...I did not want this thread to turn into this. I'm sorry you will have to take my word for it, I had no trolling intentions.
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I can tell we are going to have some really fun years ahead :3



I can play original NES Zelda on my 3DS and my wallet was not helped any.
Yes extremely sad that the 3DS can only play NES level games amirite?

What the hell kind of stretch of logic is this. Last time I checked it can play 3DS games.
 
Joke post ?

But you are free to entertain the idea that all (PC included) versions will be similar....You are in for a rude awakening though.


You are right in the sense that some people have a clear cut agenda and have decided to shit on the Wii U at every possible occasion. I assume you take offense at the posters and not at the intrinsic content of their post.
From that perspective, it does not change the fact that they are correct (but biaised). The goodside is that when the Wii U will really start to gather momentum you will gladly mock them.


I would be ALL for this. More variety the better.

I think I maybe misrepresented my point as i was referring to posts that exists as one liner drive-bys. I wouldn't say I object to their content as they have no content; it has as much intrinsic value as "first!" Or "tl;dr". A kind of utterly worthless point that just racks up more vitriol for another downwardly spiralling thread.

Nor am I trying to claim it is inherent to Nintendo consoles, so don't get me wrong. I'm probably just cranky and tired after a long day though.
 
what Official Wii U thread is that? We don't have those anymore so we have to deal with this kind of discussions and skirt around bans and trolling attitudes

Hum...I did not realize the Wii U thread has been closed.

In my defense I thought that given AC 3 is a hugely anticipated release regardless of platforms this was newsworthy.

I would take no joy in fueling the fire.

I think I maybe misrepresented my point as i was referring to posts that exists as one liner drive-bys. I wouldn't say I object to their content as they have no content; it has as much intrinsic value as "first!" Or "tl;dr". A kind of utterly worthless point that just racks up more vitriol for another downwardly spiralling thread.
Okay, then I agree with this. I thought that this kind of post would not be allowed anymore, I swear I have seen gaffers getting banned because of it.

Nor am I trying to claim it is inherent to Nintendo consoles, so don't get me wrong. I'm probably just cranky and tired after a long day though.
No need to justify yourself, you have done no harm.
 
Man, five pages from a confirmation on CONTENT not graphics. Graphically, it could vary from the 360's chugging to PC Master Graphic Settings. The guy in the OP isn't talking about that, because graphics aren't even consistent across consoles. He's talking about content. He's talking about what missions you're given, what levels you can traverse. There's nothing cut from the content, and that's impressive considering how long AC3 has been in development and how long 3rd parties have had development hardware. Even Ubisoft. The longest could be about a year and a half or so, and this has been a 3-4 year dev cycle crunched down on brand new hardware with it's own quirks and oddities. This is an impressive feat by any standards, irregardless of how powerful the WiiU is or is not. It really doesn't matter if it's going to look evidently "better". Not even the PS3 and 360 looked like it does today out of the gate. Even less so with diminishing returns with graphics technology.

Please people, gain some perspective. You guys are hopping around like a bunch of howling bamboos.

This. The OP didn't even mention anything about graphics and here we are again.

While I agree, to be fair, the silliness comes from both sides. I think some people who may be too excited for the Wii-U are mistaken that the system will be closer to the other two next gen systems and their posts reflect it.

You're right, the silliness is indeed on both sides. The Wii U obviously won't be up to PC standards, but it will be above PS360 standards. When it comes to PS4/720 all the rumors point towards them being a great step up from todays standards, but I'm personally taking a 'wait and see' approach. Until I see tear downs or official spec sheets from Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo, then I won't say anything concrete when it comes to that subject matter.

Edit: But I do think it's realistic to expect that Wii U will definitely be weaker than PS4/720.
 
I can play original NES Zelda on my 3DS and my wallet was not helped any.
Yes extremely sad that the 3DS can only play NES level games amirite?

Well it would've been pretty sad if NES graphics is all it can do. Or are you saying the Wii U actually has some incredible hidding future tech but is only emulating PS3\X360 level graphics for every game shown so far? Sad news for the wallet!
 
This thread reminds me of the kids who used to claim PS2 was more powerful than Gamecube. Granted, Wii U doesn't have a Rogue Leader to make it painfully obvious it's more powerful than last gen.
 
Features that everyone cant use become a negative for those who cant use them.
obviously. it doesn't change the fact that it supports a surround sound output superior to DTS and DD. i just think it's fair to tell the whole story rather than just going 'it doesn't even have DD and DTS' because that sure as heck doesn't make it sound like it supports a superior format, albeit it one with less penetration into peoples homes as of right now.
 
Hum...I did not realize the Wii U thread has been closed.

In my defense I thought that given AC 3 is a hugely anticipated release regardless of platforms this was newsworthy.

I would take no joy in fueling the fire.

It is newsworthy as any thread. We are not allowed Wii U megathreads anymore so these threads are bound to come up not a big deal anyone with commonsense can pick out the facts from the fanboy chatter here.

As far as AC3 PR goes, I would call this news BS because the PS3 version has been promoted as having an extra hour of playable content to tie in to the Vita game.

I would call the PS3 version the best version in this case. Identical is a stretch.
 
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