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Assassins Creed good again?
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Dusktildawn48
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I haven't liked asscreed in a long time. Syndicate is awesome
Darth_Caedus
No longer canonical
I think I'll start with Rogue and Black Flag. See if I enjoy those two.
plasmawave
Banned
Black Flag is terrible. Avoid it at all costs.
PrinceOfWhatever
Banned
I loved Black Flag and liked Unity. Syndicate was more Unity but I'm looking forward to the next AC. A 1 year break doesn't promise a masterpiece (lol NfS) but hey, let's be optimistic.
The whole other life (virtual reality, working at this cool company, etc, etc,) has always felt so played out from the get go. Honestly, if this series sat down and was just a game in a time period,it would have much higher playability to me. This shit always burns me out before I can enjoy it.
they decided to drop any precedent about the 'reasons' being any good and instead just started making the stabbing and running really fun
seriously Syndicate is more like GTA Victorian London. battering through streets on carriages, shooting fools, running a gang - then when you need to sneak and be a ninja it actually works and is better than all the previous games
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I didn't like syndicate at all.
EYEL1NER
Member
Syndicate is absolutely good. I finished Unity a couple weeks ago and immediately started Syndicate upon finishing. Combat is a lot better and has a lot more options now. The multi-kills are all pretty cool. There are a lot less weapon types than Unity, which I consider a positive. I assume that is because the vastly different kill animations with the three core melee weapons in Syndicate, they wouldn't have had time to do that kind of work for all of the different weapon types in Unity (and I just stuck with regular swords in Unity, there was too many options for me to settle on something else). They game looks great on the Xbone and I haven't seen any bugs. So yeah, I would suggest picking up Syndicate. I recorded a kill that I pulled off in the very beginning of the game with Evie, the kill animation was absolutely brutal and completely over-the-top overkill. I thought it was completely badass and showed it to a coworker who has not played a single AssCreed game and thought the series was not worth playing. That and some of the recorded footage of combat in the boxing matches have possibly sold him on the game though. He was watching the combat in the boxing matches and said "This seems a lot deeper than 'press counter' to win."
I have actually loved all of the AC games I have played, minus 3. My problem sometimes though is if I am coming off another Creed game or another UbiSoft open world game, the Ubi formula fatigues me and I have to take a break. I played AC1, 2, and Brotherhood back-to-back and loved all three of them. I started Revelations right after Brotherhood but I just wasn't feeling it so I shelved it. After a year or so I returned to it and had a blast. After that I started 3 because it had just released and I hated it. I gave it some time and tried it again but have yet to finish 3 and don't imagine I ever will (I might give one more another try if it becomes backwards-compatible). I started playing Black Flag last year and I think it is the one I enjoyed most, probably due to it being a fantastic pirate game if not a great Assassin game (some of those tailing missions were horrible). After Black Flag I started Unity and Watch_Dogs. I liked Watch_Dogs better and could not patch Unity at the time, so Unity got shelved. After returning to the US and having access to unlimited internet in the fall, I was able to patch up Unity, so I started that again. Unity was good and I liked the story up to the end, but locking good gear and upgrades behind co-op missions that have to be played multiple times each if you play solo rubbed me the wrong way. Upon beating Unity, I started up Syndicate and am on the 6th set of missions right now.
Altogether I have enjoyed the series though. I've beaten six of the eight games I have played so far and have 100% completed/synced (all chests) more than a couple, will have Syndicate beat soon, may return to 3 one day, and will play my sealed copy of Rogue as soon as it becomes Xbone backwards compatible.
I have actually loved all of the AC games I have played, minus 3. My problem sometimes though is if I am coming off another Creed game or another UbiSoft open world game, the Ubi formula fatigues me and I have to take a break. I played AC1, 2, and Brotherhood back-to-back and loved all three of them. I started Revelations right after Brotherhood but I just wasn't feeling it so I shelved it. After a year or so I returned to it and had a blast. After that I started 3 because it had just released and I hated it. I gave it some time and tried it again but have yet to finish 3 and don't imagine I ever will (I might give one more another try if it becomes backwards-compatible). I started playing Black Flag last year and I think it is the one I enjoyed most, probably due to it being a fantastic pirate game if not a great Assassin game (some of those tailing missions were horrible). After Black Flag I started Unity and Watch_Dogs. I liked Watch_Dogs better and could not patch Unity at the time, so Unity got shelved. After returning to the US and having access to unlimited internet in the fall, I was able to patch up Unity, so I started that again. Unity was good and I liked the story up to the end, but locking good gear and upgrades behind co-op missions that have to be played multiple times each if you play solo rubbed me the wrong way. Upon beating Unity, I started up Syndicate and am on the 6th set of missions right now.
Altogether I have enjoyed the series though. I've beaten six of the eight games I have played so far and have 100% completed/synced (all chests) more than a couple, will have Syndicate beat soon, may return to 3 one day, and will play my sealed copy of Rogue as soon as it becomes Xbone backwards compatible.
TDLink
Member
I would love to play Black Flag, but it still requires Uplay right? I keep wanting to get it on Steam sale but I have heard horror stories of running Steam + Uplay at the same time. I have a friend who got the game with a Nvidia card a few years ago too and his Uplay won't even run it. It's weird.
Is there an actual way now to play it without Uplay or is this still something plaguing it?
Is there an actual way now to play it without Uplay or is this still something plaguing it?
cr_blah_blah
Member
I think Syndicate is the only game in the series that finally gets everything right. It's homogenized but in a good way.
Syndicate is fantastic, but admittedly I was mainly infatuated by the Victorian London setting. The gameplay and mission has some tweaks but at its core it's still an Assassin's Creed game.
Black Flag/Rogue are both fantastic choices if you love the pirate theme and find the idea of simply sailing around the seas in your own ship appealing. The actual AC gameplay on foot is pretty bad though, and unlike the other games there aren't huge cities to explore.
Black Flag/Rogue are both fantastic choices if you love the pirate theme and find the idea of simply sailing around the seas in your own ship appealing. The actual AC gameplay on foot is pretty bad though, and unlike the other games there aren't huge cities to explore.
Syndicate is kneecapped by it's absolutely terrible control scheme. It's impossible to make anything "work" or have an assassination look "cool" as your character will randomly climb a table and you'll have no idea how to make him jump off again. These issues, as well as the character often not climbing or jumping where you want them to occur with frustrating regularity.
It's what ruined Unity (aside from the obvious), and these problems are even worse in Syndicate. I started off enjoying the game and finished it completely disliking it.
It's what ruined Unity (aside from the obvious), and these problems are even worse in Syndicate. I started off enjoying the game and finished it completely disliking it.
Play Black Flag first. Rogue is a sequel to that/prequel to 3. Rogue is also basically a Black Flag expansion.
John Kowalski
Banned
Evie is cool af.
rockman zx
Member
If you can overlook certain flaws in Unity, is not really that bad, the game has plenty of thing to enjoy.
Black Flag is an awesome game but I'm not sure if aged well, specially because the missions design, story, world and sailing are great to this date though.
Black Flag is an awesome game but I'm not sure if aged well, specially because the missions design, story, world and sailing are great to this date though.
Most people played that game like 8 years ago...
AC2 was the best AC game for its time, but I think Syndicate is better in every respect.
I'd suggest waiting for a sale on Syndicate and trying it. If you don't like AC2 or Syndicate, then I think you're safe to drop the series.
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
I think the only thing that holds Black Flag back is the fact that it's an Assassin's Creed game. The open ocean exploration, the ship combat, and even the parkour elements that come from being an AC game are great, but the design of the assassination missions still seems to kind of have an identity crisis that carries forward from the AC games that preceded it in that they don't really care. That particular thing is the problem with the game at a larger scale -- any time it actually wants you to do something resembling being an assassin, it feels abrupt and kind of off-putting because the stealth just doesn't feel refined or rewarding. I still think it's overall a great game, but it's a great pirate game and an okay-at-best AC game.
Syndicate feels like Brotherhood in a nicer engine -- it's back to favoring on-foot exploration in a single large-scale city while still maintaining the fairly simplistic but rewarding "army" management systems. It's got a few other things that make it stand out from the rest of the franchise, but Brotherhood was the peak of the series for me before, and I think Syndicate is a very worthy successor.
Both games still don't really seem to know how to handle the overarching Assassins vs Templar conflict, it's still kind of meandering and feeling a bit lost, which I feel like is one of the franchise's biggest casualties from Ubi deciding to go annual with releases. Hope the year break this year and the movie kind of revitalizes that aspect. Black Flag and Syndicate both feel like they use franchise fundamentals to kind of run and experiment, but don't feel like they necessarily bring the series forward in any significant way -- they just either create their own contextual strengths or play on some of the best existing elements of the franchise.
Syndicate feels like Brotherhood in a nicer engine -- it's back to favoring on-foot exploration in a single large-scale city while still maintaining the fairly simplistic but rewarding "army" management systems. It's got a few other things that make it stand out from the rest of the franchise, but Brotherhood was the peak of the series for me before, and I think Syndicate is a very worthy successor.
Both games still don't really seem to know how to handle the overarching Assassins vs Templar conflict, it's still kind of meandering and feeling a bit lost, which I feel like is one of the franchise's biggest casualties from Ubi deciding to go annual with releases. Hope the year break this year and the movie kind of revitalizes that aspect. Black Flag and Syndicate both feel like they use franchise fundamentals to kind of run and experiment, but don't feel like they necessarily bring the series forward in any significant way -- they just either create their own contextual strengths or play on some of the best existing elements of the franchise.
sobaka770
Banned
I must say, AC Syndicate is really good. (Disclaimer: didn't finish the game yet)
I think simply by adding the rope mechanics, they simplified the parcour, removed a lot of pathing annoyances and sped up the pace, so that the game overall sudeenly became more enjoyable. They also did away with an insane amount of pointless collectibles and the puzzles are not punishingly hard this time (although, nothing can top the "Truth" puzzles from AC2, Ubi plz).
Skip Unity, I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, but Syndicate is just better. (Black Flag is good if you like ship combat)
I think simply by adding the rope mechanics, they simplified the parcour, removed a lot of pathing annoyances and sped up the pace, so that the game overall sudeenly became more enjoyable. They also did away with an insane amount of pointless collectibles and the puzzles are not punishingly hard this time (although, nothing can top the "Truth" puzzles from AC2, Ubi plz).
Skip Unity, I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, but Syndicate is just better. (Black Flag is good if you like ship combat)
minkymuskyslyoldstoaty
Member
I'm apparently 50% of the way through Syndicate, and I've probably enjoyed it more than any other game in the series. Black Flag was also fun, although the sailing bits and great setting (loved finding islands with nothing but turtles for company) made it for me - I did miss the lack of big cities.
Violence Jack
Member
Syndicate was really fun. Best since Brotherhood for me. I also liked Rogue, and Black Flag wasn't too bad. I'm just not a fan of the ship battles.
EYEL1NER
Member
Since posting a couple hours ago, I jumped on and started playing some more. One of the things I started thinking about while playing that wasn't in my post and is something I like about Syndicate is that it lets me play the game how I want to. What I mean is that my play style in AssCreed games consists syncing as many viewpoints, as many treasure chests or other collectibles, unlock as many skills, and getting the best gear as early as possible. I like running around the in-game world feeling OP and wrecking people, and Syndicate let me do that. I don't know if casual play lets you level up super-fast or not but I managed to hit level 10 prior to even getting close to 50% of the way through the main story missions. My play style of grind enough until I feel unstoppable works in this game. I have had the best gear, all gang upgrades, and all skills for a while now and my rush to get them didn't feel broken at all. So that is one of the things I enjoy about the game. Getting super-powerful feels good in it.
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