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Assassin's Solid (NEW METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE)

I was just confused by a lot at the end. So all of Manhattan was not destroyed? Just a small part where it crash landed? I just got conused as to what was VR and what wasn't. It seemed like he was saying that the whole Big Shell and everything was VR, but I guess it wasn't, just that the Patriots arranged all of that?

Thanks for the help, I had been playing it for a while and it was kind of late when I actually finished it.

Also I just had a really weird thing happen on my ps3. I did some thing of restructuring my hard drive or recreating directories or some shit when I turned it on. Now all of my video files have reverted back to their original names from bittorrent or whatever. It also isn't correctly alphabetizing them.

It scared the shit out of me when I turned it on, I thought it was going to erase all of my videos and everything on my hard drive. I have a 20 gig and it is constantly at capacity, maybe that was the cause.
 
stuburns said:
WHOOAHAH

No he didn't.

Cam Clarke is not dead.

Are you on crack?

However the Japanese VA for Ocelot did die.

Wait, what? I thought he was?

He's the guy that voiced Leo in the original turtles right? Wasn't there something that said that he died?!


edit: Ah, bollocks.
 
Yoboman said:
Not exactly comparable missions IMO. A more similar moment would be the mission where you just land in "Iraq" and are looking for Al Asad, going towards the TV station

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl49wP02AQk

Although you'll know it better if you've played it. I think the fact that MGS4 is looking just as good as an Infinity Ward game for a warzone (whom nobody have been able to compete with so far in this aspect), is pretty damn impressive

Perhaps so, but I still consider CoH superior to both in that regard. It's not like I'm criticizing MGS4, though; I think its "battlefield atmosphere" is fantastic. I'm just responding to all the hyperbole in here about how it "blows every other battlefield away."
 
traveler said:
Perhaps so, but I still consider CoH superior to both in that regard. It's not like I'm criticizing MGS4, though; I think its "battlefield atmosphere" is fantastic. I'm just responding to all the hyperbole in here about how it "blows every other battlefield away."

okay, your here to temper expectations....seriously, you're opinions are valid, but they have been drawn out through ten pages...it begins to sound like you feel the need to downplay.

You make it sound like you are a voice of reason....when in fact its just another subjective opinion...no more valid than anybody elses. Personaly I am far more impressed with what Ive seen here than any COD or CoH. One of the reasons is because this scenario is just one small aspect of what MGS4 will offer.
 
SRG01 said:
Wait, what? I thought he was?

He's the guy that voiced Leo in the original turtles right? Wasn't there something that said that he died?!


edit: Ah, bollocks.
Just to clarify, it looks like I wrote a big laughter, but it was meant to be like a big wow. I just read it back and it made me look like I was taking the piss.

Basically in MGS2 they use both voices because it's a tool to make it clear who he is at any one time. But in MGS4 he will be full time liquid and they decided to use Ocelot's voice because it's his body, and they wanted to do that in Japan as well, but the Japanese voice actor for Ocelot had died so they used the voice actor for Liquid instead.
 
I have two dissapointments, the Gekko's weren't brutally kicking anybody around like soccer balls. In fact they kinda toned down the brutality of that whole scene, I was hoping they'd be more difficult to handle, more aggressive (could be on easy though). Secondly, where's that awesome glasses guy?
 
Yoboman said:
I have two dissapointments, the Gekko's weren't brutally kicking anybody around like soccer balls. In fact they kinda toned down the brutality of that whole scene, I was hoping they'd be more difficult to handle, more aggressive (could be on easy though).

To be fair this is the very start of the game, no doubt many fans and hardcore gamers could just jump right in and handle some really intense battling but the game is designed for the mass market so they really want to ease people in I imagine.

Hopefully they'll be much more intense later on.
 
Jtrizzy said:
I was just confused by a lot at the end. So all of Manhattan was not destroyed? Just a small part where it crash landed? I just got conused as to what was VR and what wasn't. It seemed like he was saying that the whole Big Shell and everything was VR, but I guess it wasn't, just that the Patriots arranged all of that?

Thanks for the help, I had been playing it for a while and it was kind of late when I actually finished it.

Also I just had a really weird thing happen on my ps3. I did some thing of restructuring my hard drive or recreating directories or some shit when I turned it on. Now all of my video files have reverted back to their original names from bittorrent or whatever. It also isn't correctly alphabetizing them.

It scared the shit out of me when I turned it on, I thought it was going to erase all of my videos and everything on my hard drive. I have a 20 gig and it is constantly at capacity, maybe that was the cause.

None of it was literally VR, it was staged to be like a VR mission in real life to show the extent of the Patriot's manipulation.
 
stuburns said:
To be fair this is the very start of the game, no doubt many fans and hardcore gamers could just jump right in and handle some really intense battling but the game is designed for the mass market so they really want to ease people in I imagine.

Hopefully they'll be much more intense later on.
Hell naw, you gotta kick that shit up Eleven, God of War 2 style from now on.
 
When I heard the codec noise, I thought old snake would call up on hideo koijima:lol

old snake: yes hideo
hideo: did you rike it?
old snake: yes, are you in love with jade
hideo: uhu


edit: the gekkos are going to be annoying enemies in the game, it takes forever to beat them down.
 
Yes. Welcome to reality guys. No revolutionary AI, Gekkos are lame as hell and the color-hue looks like crap.
Still the game of the forever though.

I really hope there is a high difficulty level selectable in the beginning, so there would be some suspence in the battle-field.

And I want some sneaking footage dammit :/
 
Ganondorfo said:
When I heard the codec noise, I thought old snake would call up on hideo koijima:lol

old snake: yes hideo
hideo: did you rike it?
old snake: yes, are you in love with jade
hideo: uhu


edit: the gekkos are going to be annoying enemies in the game, it takes forever to beat them down.
I believe you'll make it easier on yourself by shooting their legs
 
zoukka said:
Yes. Welcome to reality guys. No revolutionary AI, Gekkos are lame as hell and the color-hue looks like crap.
Still the game of the forever though.

I really hope there is a high difficulty level selectable in the beginning, so there would be some suspence in the battle-field.

And I want some sneaking footage dammit :/
Terrible post, you're a dissapointment
 
You should be able to quickly toggle on and off the HUD with a quick press of the select button or something. The orange boxes for items and weapons only come up when you press the triggers, and the radar should be toggled on and off. It just makes sense, when the game looks so gorgeous to make it more movie like with no HUD.
 
zoukka said:
Yes. Welcome to reality guys. No revolutionary AI, Gekkos are lame as hell and the color-hue looks like crap.
Still the game of the forever though.

I really hope there is a high difficulty level selectable in the beginning, so there would be some suspence in the battle-field.

And I want some sneaking footage dammit :/
Nice nosedive to a ban.
 
VindicatorZ said:
You should be able to quickly toggle on and off the HUD with a quick press of the select button or something. The orange boxes for items and weapons only come up when you press the triggers, and the radar should be toggled on and off. It just makes sense, when the game looks so gorgeous to make it more movie like with no HUD.

Is the ring officially gone? Without any kind oh HUD and no map would be the sweetest!

Nice nosedive to a ban.

Why should I get banned for my opinion? I know it was pretty stupid to expect Gekkos to be like in the cut-scenes, blowing walls, jumping, ramming after you, but I'm an MGS fanboy so what are you gonna do :/
 
zoukka said:
Why should I get banned for my opinion? I know it was pretty stupid to expect Gekkos to be like in the cut-scenes, blowing walls, jumping, ramming after you, but I'm an MGS fanboy so what are you gonna do :/

We see all of those things in the video.
 
Socreges said:
He raises a good point, though.

Is Kojima planning on reducing the amount of sneaking? That's what I love about MGS.
No. You don't have to fire a single shot in the game if you don't want to
 
BigBoss said:
We see all of those things in the video.

They're scripted. They just seemed really slow, the machine gun was pathetic and they moved in fixed paths like the genome soldiers in MGS. The first time I heard about Gekkos and saw them in the first trailer, they seemed really powerful and intimidating. In that trailer those feelings were totally missing.

No. You don't have to fire a single shot in the game if you don't want to

Naturally. By "sneaking" footage I meant Snake not being in battlefield. But I know there will be sections like that of course. I'd just like to see one trailer with more traditional MGS-action before the release.
 
zoukka said:
They're scripted. They just seemed really slow, the machine gun was pathetic and they moved in fixed paths like the genome soldiers in MGS. The first time I heard about Gekkos and saw them in the first trailer, they seemed really powerful and intimidating. In that trailer those feelings were totally missing.



Naturally. By "sneaking" footage I meant Snake not being in battlefield. But I know there will be sections like that of course. I'd just like to see one trailer with more traditional MGS-action before the release.
Go watch the TGS 2006 trailer, or the original gameplay trailer
 
Yoboman said:
I have two dissapointments, the Gekko's weren't brutally kicking anybody around like soccer balls. In fact they kinda toned down the brutality of that whole scene, I was hoping they'd be more difficult to handle, more aggressive (could be on easy though). Secondly, where's that awesome glasses guy?

Yeah, they gotta have some punting in still. Also, the guys who get stomped didn't get outright flattened like before. I dunno, either some stuff was cut out to make it flow better or it's because this features edited footage. There's no blood dripping on Snake's shoulder at the end of the video when he's surprised by the "wall-climbing" Gekko.

Whoever mentioned the soldier dialogue: Yeah, some phrases do sound a bit odd. "Come on boys" or something similar is said. Sounds like something a WWII soldier would say. Some of the soldier VA almost sound "goofy" in their delivery too. Although I suppose the way it is now is better than a truckload of "sweet" and CoD4-ish stuff.
 
zoukka said:
Is the ring officially gone? Without any kind oh HUD and no map would be the sweetest!



Why should I get banned for my opinion? I know it was pretty stupid to expect Gekkos to be like in the cut-scenes, blowing walls, jumping, ramming after you, but I'm an MGS fanboy so what are you gonna do :/


I don't know but I completely hate the look of the ring, it looks like crap to me. It makes it look very video gamey, where as this new video just looks like some badass Gears of War type stuff, with amazing graphics.


And about the Gekkos man, just wait and see. I was pretty blown away by what I saw in that video, I'm pretty positive that the Gekkos will chase you down and attack all kinds of ways, as well as pooping and pissing.

And I hope there's mroe types of metal gears. We've seen those Raven metal gears, I hope there's more.
 
And I hope there's mroe types of metal gears. We've seen those Raven metal gears, I hope there's more.

I think there will be one "big" MG to handle. Though in every other MGS they have showed the last MG in advance... could 4 be the exception?

Whoever mentioned the soldier dialogue: Yeah, some phrases do sound a bit odd. "Come on boys" or something similar is said. Sounds like something a WWII soldier would say. Some of the soldier VA almost sound "goofy" in their delivery too. Although I suppose the way it is now is better than a truckload of "sweet" and CoD4-ish stuff.

I think they tried to emphasize that those "rebels" were amateurs. They even acted really stupid in the cut-scenes :)
 
I was hoping they'd implement accents for the militiamen. Them sounding distinctively American does not sit right with me at all. It might sound just natural for an actual American but it's jarring for me and many other non-Americans :(
 
Yoboman said:
I was hoping they'd implement accents for the militiamen. Them sounding distinctively American does not sit right with me at all. It might sound just natural for an actual American but it's jarring for me and many other non-Americans :(

Yeah I was even expecting native languages for in-game shouting. Would have really amplified the atmosphere.
 
Ceb said:
Yeah, they gotta have some punting in still. Also, the guys who get stomped didn't get outright flattened like before. I dunno, either some stuff was cut out to make it flow better or it's because this features edited footage. There's no blood dripping on Snake's shoulder at the end of the video when he's surprised by the "wall-climbing" Gekko.

Whoever mentioned the soldier dialogue: Yeah, some phrases do sound a bit odd. "Come on boys" or something similar is said. Sounds like something a WWII soldier would say. Some of the soldier VA almost sound "goofy" in their delivery too. Although I suppose the way it is now is better than a truckload of "sweet" and CoD4-ish stuff.


God I hated the way the soliers spoke in MGS3, the russians had zero accents they sounded just like americans! Terrible! In MGS2 there were badass accents like "Go ahead and shoot me" or "Don't Kill Me!" I think this game will suffer from that same stupid every soldier has an american accent syndrome. You can see it in the videos with stupid dialogue when the soldiers offer Snake something " Here you want this?" "Thanks for the help back there!" Stupid..
 
zoukka said:
Yeah I was even expecting native languages for in-game shouting. Would have really amplified the atmosphere.


The only thing I can maybe justify it with is that the people with turbans and stuff aren't even middle easterners, they are just some people put to fight there against the PMC's. They sound like some regular white people!
 
Seriously, I know Ryan might be worried about stepping on some people's toes with regards to cliche accents (like that very, very minor controversy around Mei Ling), but having accents where they MAKE SENSE is perfectly legitimate

I don't wanna hear that "Snake just understands every language so it sounds like some American talking", that's lame.
 
VindicatorZ said:
The only thing I can maybe justify it with is that the people with turbans and stuff aren't even middle easterners, they are just some people put to fight there against the PMC's. They sound like some regular white people!

That's my guess too. Mercenaries perhaps?

Tho the missing accents did not bother me so much in the previous games because they were much more videogame-like and many of the phrases were hilarious. MGS4 seems more realistic so it would be nice to see more accents and professional soldiers.
 
antiloop said:
You are lame.

Just went through this thread and OMG at the fanboyism levels here! I never knew MGS fans could be so bloodthirsty. It's a known fact that this game will be a gaming classic, so wtf is all this shit about @_@
 
zoukka said:
Just went through this thread and OMG at the fanboyism levels here! I never knew MGS fans could be so bloodthirsty. It's a known fact that this game will be a gaming classic, so wtf is all this shit about @_@


You must like every aspect of the game or you are dumb and clueless and are clearly trolling MGS4 and the PS3.
 
fistfulofmetal said:
You must like every aspect of the game or you are dumb and clueless and are clearly trolling MGS4 and the PS3.

on the other hand, very few of those dismissing the game offered any constructive criticism...its not surprising if they are dismissed in turn... still, excitement does seem to bring out the hate

zoukku, from what Ive seen of his taste, does seem to like some pretty crappy stuff though, and generally critiques the big games....
 
zoukka said:
Just went through this thread and OMG at the fanboyism levels here! I never knew MGS fans could be so bloodthirsty. It's a known fact that this game will be a gaming classic, so wtf is all this shit about @_@

I just think you are lame for hating the Gekkos. That's all. ;)

They are the best damn thing about the MGS4 trailers. Cow sound and all.
 
I don't think we can discern any quality gameplay details from a few minutes of a demonstration trailer(and a joke one at that) displaying what is most likely the beginning of the game. You know, the kind they usually play on easy with godmode on.

And about the accent thing.. Didn't Ryan say they did a lot of rerecording of random soldiers so they would fit in better? Something like that.

The black dude with the white coat seems to be an important character. He's been in multiple trailers. He could be an American leading a resistance group. Who knows?
 
one of the better gameplay videos of MGS4 we have seen, the AI seems smart and you can also see soldiers helping other wonded soldiers :D


as I mentioned earlier in this thread this game will render all my Girlfriends Obsolete !!!

thank you Kojimasama!!!!!
 
Malfunky said:
I don't think we can discern any quality gameplay details from a few minutes of a demonstration trailer(and a joke one at that) displaying what is most likely the beginning of the game. You know, the kind they usually play on easy with godmode on.

And about the accent thing.. Didn't Ryan say they did a lot of rerecording of random soldiers so they would fit in better? Something like that.

The black dude with the white coat seems to be an important character. He's been in multiple trailers. He could be an American leading a resistance group. Who knows?
I believe he said they "might" do that
 
Yoboman said:
Seriously, I know Ryan might be worried about stepping on some people's toes with regards to cliche accents (like that very, very minor controversy around Mei Ling), but having accents where they MAKE SENSE is perfectly legitimate

I don't wanna hear that "Snake just understands every language so it sounds like some American talking", that's lame.

Isnt that how its always been with the series. Everything is translated to english even though they are speaking a different langauge.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Isnt that how its always been with the series. Everything is translated to english even though they are speaking a different langauge.
Err no. Everyone spoke English in MGS1 and 2
 
Maybe I'm nuts, but we don't actually know if Snake really did kill Big Boss do we? For all we know it could have been a decoy being controlled by either the Patriots or Big Boss.

Or maybe I'm just stupid?
 
Xun said:
Maybe I'm nuts, but we don't actually know if Snake really did kill Big Boss do we? For all we know it could have been a decoy being controlled by either the Patriots or Big Boss.

Or maybe I'm just stupid?
Snake did kill him. He's dead.
 
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