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http://www.avatarmovie.com/

AVATAR DAY
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Awesome.

Looking at that face, it's clearly a feminine Navi. Not sure if it's Saldana or not but it's a woman for sure.

Grant DaNasty said:
It takes at least 2 years to make a tentpole. It's too early to know what kind of impact TDK had.
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How could it have had any impact?

It was just a very well made film.

I have no problem with people placing it in there top ten or calling it the best action film or anything like that...Ledgers performance was truly amazing and it was a highly entertaining film. I'm sure it will influence people. But it's not like he used some new form of editing, or told his story in some unique way.

When people say that Avatar is going to change cinema, they are talking a bit beyond a comic movie that was taken seriously. They mean that 3D will make 2D obsolete. They mean that shit like Gollum won't be accepted anymore because it's only "good" looking and not "real" looking.

Scullibundo said:
Wow that music is great!

I am conflicted GAF. Do I go watch and spoil an entire 15 minutes of the movie for myself at IMAX or do I hold out?
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I plan on watching the 2D trailer online but I'm not even really that excited about this 15 minutes Imax thing. I can't see myself taking time out of a day to view what is essentially a sneak peak.
 
Dan said:
No, it's evidence that executives have found a way to charge more for ticket prices.
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Which means they've created a product that people, as a whole, want, which is good!

I want to see this at IMAX, myself :D Only thing I've ever seen there was Matrix 2... what a letdown. Here's to hoping this is much better. Only true 3D glasses thing I've seen was that futuristic play with roller blading that Andrew Lloyd Webber composed the music for.
 
Liara T'Soni said:
I can't see myself taking time out of a day to view what is essentially a sneak peak.
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Sneak peak of Avatar > GAF. Looking at my calendar, 08/21, a Friday (evening), looks good for me!
 
I like that reports are saying that Cameron has mastered the prints of the film as brighter to account for the 3D lenses, unlike other filmmakers.
 
Sklorenz said:
Which means they've created a product that people, as a whole, want, which is good!
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Meh, millions of people like the Transformers movies and care about Jon and Kate. Popularity != good.
 
Scullibundo said:
I like that reports are saying that Cameron has mastered the prints of the film as brighter to account for the 3D lenses, unlike other filmmakers.
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You read whatever the hell you want to read don't you? What has been said is that the scenes shown were mostly lit in a bright light, instead of atomspheric sci-fi darkness.
 
Liara T'Soni said:
When people say that Avatar is going to change cinema, they are talking a bit beyond a comic movie that was taken seriously
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It's not going to change cinema though. The only people who truly believes that is James Cameron and a bunch of people who have not seen one single piece of footage.
 
Jibril said:
This whole James Cameron discussion has made me see that JC really did a lot for the industry. I appreciate his love of pushing the boundaries. I hate it when directors don't try to accomplish something new. James Cameron is up there, the man is insanely talented for bringing in the newest tech and using it to it's full potential.
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In my opinion the man is fucking genius at what he does. No matter what move of his you mention (disregard Piranha), he fuckin brings it 100% every time. From the impressions it seems he has not let up.
 
Oh shit! I didn't realise the trailer was also debuting on August 21st. Fuck, then I definitely do not need to spoil 15 minutes of the film for myself. Trailer will do fine!
 
I still remember the first time I saw Jurassic Park. Sounds like the impressions for Avatar aren't that...impressive. Not that I'm surprised
 
jett said:
You read whatever the hell you want to read don't you? What has been said is that the scenes shown were mostly lit in a bright light, instead of atomspheric sci-fi darkness.
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Actually I read the same:
AICN said:
I’ve long been on the record as saying 3-D is fun, but I don’t believe for a second it’s the future of cinema. I think it’s possible a form of 3-D could be in the cards in the future norm, but the problem I have with most 3-D is it dims the picture so badly that you only get half the effect.

Cameron lit his scenes very brightly so things really pop and you can tell a master’s eye went into the framing of every shot, giving real perceptible depth to something as mundane as a military type walking between rows of recruits.
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But the 3-D is eye-popping, some of the best use I’ve seen recently… maybe since Captain Eo in my youth. Cameron’s not just content to give you a Viewmaster depth, but he also puts layers on our side of the screen… not so much in the SCTV comin’ atcha way, but in that the only depth isn’t perceived through the window of the screen… it’s also in the audience itself, filling the peripherals as things move by.
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That makes me very happy.

Seriously jett, just go out of town and find an IMAX for a day. Don't see this thing in 2D for your first time. Even all the 3D skeptics are praising the 3D.

And for those saying it would be all visuals, no substance - from the same impressions at AICN:

No, what this presentation convinced me of is that AVATAR will be a strong return to narrative filmmaking from one of the best filmmakers of the last 30 years. Once we see the whole picture it might be more than that because I have a feeling that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Seriously though, they should have waited 8 days and made AVATAR day August 29th and debuted the trailer at 2:14 Eastern Time.
 
I'm now thinking that the less I know about the movie, and 3D itself (I've never seen one in 3D), I think the impact will be bigger and I'll enjoy it more.

Knowing jack shit about the movie a couple months before release probably isn't good for marketing, but it should be interesting going in there blind for me.
 
Press Release on "Avatar Day"

On August 21, the world will get its first look at director James Cameron’s motion picture epic AVATAR, when Twentieth Century Fox and Cameron debut the film’s trailer everywhere – while select cinemas and IMAX® theaters will screen extended footage prepared by the renowned filmmaker for this global “Avatar Day” event.

The worldwide trailer launch will be presented in all formats, including IMAX® 3-D, IMAX® 2-D, digital 3-D, digital 2-D, and 35mm 2-D. The trailer will also be available online.

The extended look at AVATAR will unspool only on August 21 – and only in 3-D – in select theaters and IMAX®. Details on locations and reserving tickets for this extraordinary and unprecedented experience will be announced soon.

In addition on the 21st, Ubisoft® will unveil the trailer for their videogame James Cameron’s Avatar: The Game, and Mattel will reveal the action figures for the film’s Avatar and alien Na’vi characters.

AVATAR takes us to a spectacular new world beyond our imagination, where a reluctant hero embarks on a journey of redemption, discovery and unexpected love, as he leads a heroic battle to save a civilization. The film was first conceived by Cameron 14 years ago, when the means to realize his vision did not yet exist. Now, after four years of actual production work, AVATAR delivers a fully immersive cinematic experience of a new kind, where the revolutionary technology invented to make the film, disappears into the emotion of the characters and the sweep of the story.

AVATAR opens in theaters everywhere December 18, 2009.
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The "Reserving tickets" part turns me off. It's like they're trying to keep the mainstream from seeing it.

At least we'll get a trailer.

Also, thanks Sculli for giving me the scriptment! I haven't read it yet but will tonight!
 
Here is a video blog from 4 guys at Slashfilm with wildly ranging opinions:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/23...ughts-on-24-minutes-of-james-camerons-avatar/

Halfway through it now, but I'm sure both afficianados and trolls alike will select the pieces of dialogue from each member that they most want to here. Basically its very down to earth discussing.

Edit - Love what they're saying about the camera-work. Feels hand-held etc, like a real camera in a real environment.
 
This film is insane. I just wish FOX did more on the marketing. I'm gonna curse in 17 languages if it makes less than Transformers 2.
 
Scullibundo said:
Here is a video blog from 4 guys at Slashfilm with wildly ranging opinions:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/23...ughts-on-24-minutes-of-james-camerons-avatar/

Halfway through it now, but I'm sure both afficianados and trolls alike will select the pieces of dialogue from each member that they most want to here. Basically its very down to earth discussing.

Edit - Love what they're saying about the camera-work. Feels hand-held etc, like a real camera in a real environment.
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I have no idea what to take away from that. It looks real. But it doesn't. But it does?
 
Memphis Reigns said:
I have no idea what to take away from that. It looks real. But it doesn't. But it does?
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What I got from the whole 'if these things existed, that is what it would look like' comments is that it all looks real, but because everything looks so alien, you inherently know it isn't.
 
Fodaquinhentos said:
We're not getting a trailer on the 21st?

Fuck this shit.
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No. We are getting a trailer on the 21st, but there is also 15 minutes of scenes that people can see at select theaters.

Which is where I can actually agree with Sculli on something. I'll just watch the trailer and forget about the scenes.
 
Scullibundo said:
What I got from the whole 'if these things existed, that is what it would look like' comments is that it all looks real, but because everything looks so alien, you inherently know it isn't.
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Yep... I bet a lot of people will disagree on how real it looks, depending on how much imagination one inputs into believing what they are seeing is actually real.
 
Scullibundo said:
What I got from the whole 'if these things existed, that is what it would look like' comments is that it all looks real, but because everything looks so alien, you inherently know it isn't.
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The hype is so high with me right now. I can't even begin to describe. I'm a man with a wild imagination and it looks like Cameron just went into my mind and made everything I've wanted to see in real life, come to life.
 
Dan said:
No. We are getting a trailer on the 21st, but there is also 15 minutes of scenes that people can see at select theaters.

Which is where I can actually agree with Sculli on something. I'll just watch the trailer and forget about the scenes.
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I failed at reading pretty hard.
 
Blader5489 said:
The general public is a bunch of furries?
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I very much doubt that general public even knows what furries are - or in fact anyone other than internet geeks. Besides, I think that other than the tail they kept alien design un-animal enough. They have no fur, and their eyes seem more human than cat-like, as they seem to have round pupils, instead of vertical oval like cats do (in the actual screen from the movie I mean, not the artworks of which I don't even know what's been fan made and what was not).

If there was one movie you'd think wouldn't reach far outside of geek population, it's LOTR trilogy, and we all know how that ended.
 
Scullibundo said:
That makes me very happy.

Seriously jett, just go out of town and find an IMAX for a day. Don't see this thing in 2D for your first time. Even all the 3D skeptics are praising the 3D.

And for those saying it would be all visuals, no substance - from the same impressions at AICN:



Seriously though, they should have waited 8 days and made AVATAR day August 29th and debuted the trailer at 2:14 Eastern Time.
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Yeah I'd have to go out of my country to find an IMAX theater. :P I think I'll just brave the Dolby 3D theaters we have here.
 
jett said:
That sounds very intriguing to me because so far none of these Digital 3D movies have held a candle to Captain EO, in my opinion...

This line in particular though, I'm not sure what he's getting at:



From what I've experienced of 3D movies is that everything you see is constrained within the screen, it's impossible for stuff to "fly out" of the frame. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

Anyway, those impressions really hit home for me, it's as if the guy was in my head and every complain I had about 3D was also his. I too have described 3D movies as being like a POS Viewmaster. :lol
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Did you watch Coraline in 3D? Because what he describes there is pretty much how I felt about that movie.
 
so until the trailer comes .....
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Fox seems to be as shitty as Square-Enix when it comes to promoting their next tentpole production. Hype has massively dropped.

I will still be there day one
 
Wollan said:
Actually I read the same:
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I think the problem I have with the 3D future is summed up here: it takes a master eye to make the shot work with the 3D. There aren't enough directors that are good enough to be able to pull it off, and many times it comes off as a gimmick (or sometimes is just a gimmick). As fantastic as Avatar's 3D could be, I doubt it will ever be the future, not unless most average directors can start to create something worthwhile with the technology.
 
Koodo said:
Fox seems to be as shitty as Square-Enix when it comes to promoting their next tentpole production. Hype has massively dropped.
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Watch the 2D print leak a month early like Wolverine.
 
Bpatrol said:
I think the problem I have with the 3D future is summed up here: it takes a master eye to make the shot work with the 3D. There aren't enough directors that are good enough to be able to pull it off, and many times it comes off as a gimmick (or sometimes is just a gimmick). As fantastic as Avatar's 3D could be, I doubt it will ever be the future, not unless most average directors can start to create something worthwhile with the technology.
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Producers give shitty directors money all the time.
 
acidviper said:
Producers give shitty directors money all the time.
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But then that could be said for CG as well. This is why its so important Cameron has converted the big guns so we also have people like Spielberg, Jackson and Ridley leading the charge. I think that alone will help ease audiences into the new 3D wave.
 
Jibril said:
This film is insane. I just wish FOX did more on the marketing. I'm gonna curse in 17 languages if it makes less than Transformers 2.
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There are very few things I'm absolutely sure of, but I'd stake a lot on Avatar not getting anywhere close to TF2, for better or for worse.
 
Scullibundo said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gre...vatar-panel-vids.html&feature=player_embedded

Cameron on stage before the showing! He even says 'Now I know you don't want me to sit here telling you about the story, so I'm not going to'. :lol
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Meh. Are you ready to go to Pandora? Not ready enough it seems. Thanks for the extra month of waiting Jim.

If I had a time machine, I don't think I'd skip ahead a few months to watch the film. I think I'd go back to when I met you on the set of True Lies and tell my 9-year-old self to kick you in the shins for this crap.
 
I'm surprised no one filmed any footage from the preview. Since it's in 3D everything would be totally blurry, but I would have thought someone would've taken a shot at it.
 
Forkball said:
I'm surprised no one filmed any footage from the preview. Since it's in 3D everything would be totally blurry, but I would have thought someone would've taken a shot at it.
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It wouldn't be so blurry that you couldn't make out what stuff is.
 
critch said:
There are very few things I'm absolutely sure of, but I'd stake a lot on Avatar not getting anywhere close to TF2, for better or for worse.
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It is a pretty tall order.

If it does, it will be the 10th movie in history to crack the $400 million domestic barrier, with the 9th most likely being Transformers 2 (bu-bu-but bad WOM!) and the 5th non-sequel film to crack it, those being Titanic, E.T., Star Wars: A New Hope, and Spider-man 1.
 
Scullibundo said:
But then that could be said for CG as well. This is why its so important Cameron has converted the big guns so we also have people like Spielberg, Jackson and Ridley leading the charge. I think that alone will help ease audiences into the new 3D wave.
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Spielberg? Really?! He's so hopelessly old-fashioned that he doesn't even do DIs for his movies.
 
I love
Floating mountains!
how I have been following this movie this long and not known about
Floating mountains!
?
Floating mountains!
Are like the greatest thing in the entire world.


I also just realized how close to Christmas this is coming out. I'm definitely gonna see it at the IMAX up here on the release, but I REALLY want to see it with my Dad. And I'll definitely get a chance to when I go home for Christmas week later. :D
 
BattleMonkey said:
So when do I get to see some footage so I can actually finally care about this?
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With avatar it's the other way around. FIRST you care. Then you get footage.
 
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