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[Blablurn]

man, all these threads, all the hype. and i barely know anything about the movie. still looking forward to. i just don't know why.

 

[ant_]

Is it just me or does the Stugg alien bust look kind of like a Prophet from Halo?
Can't wait for this movie, regardless.

 

[Cheebs]

I hope you're right and they put up the trailer, online.

No trailer this week.

 

[Veidt]

No trailer this week.

 

[FirewalkR]

Wollan strikes first. :lol

 

[Nizz]

My most wanted film of 2009.

I already know I want to see it, so the question becomes, do I watch the trailer and ruin something for myself, or go in blind and be blown away in December?

This is what I'm wondering. I feel like staying away from all media, but I'll be damned if I'm not curious to see some footage from this.

This is the first sci-fi movie in a long time from the man who brought us Terminator, T2, and Aliens among others.

I'm pretty sure I'll watch the trailer if it's released. Wollan sure knows how to get hype rolling.

 

[Koodo]

man, all these threads, all the hype. and i barely know anything about the movie. still looking forward to. i just don't know why.

99.8% of the planet's population barely knows anything about the movie, so it isn't just you.

Give us a damn trailer already. ;'(

 

[The Librarian]

I am fully expecting this to be the most amazing movie ever made, but I see where the doubters are coming from, they need to see it to believe it.

It'll take a lot for this movie to be a better science-fiction film than 2001: A Space Odyssey.

 

[Solo]

When the hell did I champion Transformers 2? Only thing i've said about that is that it's going to hit 400 and would shut up all the haters who think that somehow it's a failure. I liked it but it's not my favorite movie of even the past month.

Cameron hasn't made a movie in a decade. Everything that has been talked about for Avatar reminds me very much of the hype for Episode One, which is OMG EFFECTS SO AMAZING and the story is shit. Cameron has done great movies, though I think his people directing takes a back seat to his action directing, just like Lucas. So yeah, we've been here before, lets see if it turns out any different. Past performance does not guarantee future results, and Cameron's been out of the game for a long time.

I also don't like the way he's trying to push 3D and Mo-cap as this great amazing way we should be doing movies from now on. Every 3D movie that has been produced is gimmicky and wears out it's welcome quickly. Mo-Cap movies Polar Express and Beowulf look like crap. And a two and a half hour 'epic' of them together makes my head hurt.

People have been saying this was going to hit 400-500 million for a year with nothing other than it's name. I think they're wrong just like they were wrong with how Star Trek was going to perform. The audience for a movie like this, especially in the Christmas season, does not exist, and to say it's going to get anywhere close to Titanic is insanity.

If I'm wrong, I'll say so, but don't slam my opinions when yours are just as suspect.

Every box office thread it seems like you're loving the fact that TF2 has made so much, which I assume means you're championing the movie. My mistake if thats not the case.

Also, the Lucas comparison isnt really apt. Lucas was never a great director, so theres a fundamental difference right there. Also, Cameron hasnt taken an exodus like Lucas did. Hes been doing docs and working on tech, so its not like he just packed it in for the past decade.

As for the tech, I hold Cameron to a higher standard than most here, so Im going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see differently.

Box office wise, who is saying that? I dont think even Sculli is that crazy to think it will hit $400M. Hell, $300M domestic seems high.

 

[Cheebs]

People are going to end up being disappointed. The footage shown at comic con is not being released to the public. We have to wait for official trailer or whatever down the line whenever they announce what movie it will be attached to.

We'll get plenty of impressions though, but if you expect to see what they show you'll be in for a dissapointment.

Box office wise, who is saying that? I dont think even Sculli is that crazy to think it will hit $400M. Hell, $300M domestic seems high.

Yeah. Cameron is not a name director to the masses. The only director who can sell a movie on his name alone is Spielberg.

 

[Veidt]

People are going to end up being disappointed. The footage shown at comic con is not being released to the public. We have to wait for official trailer or whatever down the line whenever they announce what movie it will be attached to.

We'll get plenty of impressions though, but if you expect to see what they show you'll be in for a dissapointment.

Well, there goes my Comic-con hype, down to 50% now.

 

[FirewalkR]

It'll take a lot for this movie to be a better science-fiction film than 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Well... that's a pretty impossible standard. 2001 expects too much from the audience. (or more correctly, it expects exactly what it should and the audience in general just isn't up to standard) It is one of the best SF movies ever made, if not the best. I'm counting on Avatar to be "very good" while being #1 in visuals.

 

[Wollan]

As for the tech, I hold Cameron to a higher standard than most here, so Im going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see differently.

Box office wise, who is saying that? I dont think even Sculli is that crazy to think it will hit $400M. Hell, $300M domestic seems high.

I wonder how much Terminator 2 has earned on various format releases and re-releases.

I bet Avatar will have an even longer re-dipping effect since the movie format itself is so cutting edge with stereoscopic 3D.

 

[Zeliard]

This movie is going to be fucking awesome. I personally can't wait. Other than Shutter Island, it's easily my most anticipated movie of the year.

 

[duckroll]

So if the weekend comes and goes, and there's no Avatar trailer online or anything, and I have to be subjected to reading incoherent or retarded fanwank hyping of people who were at Comicon, what will be done to appease my anger and rage? Tell me, my mortal friends...

 

[Cheebs]

So if the weekend comes and goes, and there's no Avatar trailer online or anything, and I have to be subjected to reading incoherent or retarded fanwank hyping of people who were at Comicon, what will be done to appease my anger and rage? Tell me, my mortal friends...

And that is what most likely the case will be. You aren't hyped to read endless aint it cool news impressions?

 

[DataStream]

I would be absolutely stunned if someone doesn't manage to sneak footage out of this.

 

[duckroll]

I would be absolutely stunned if someone doesn't manage to sneak footage out of this.

Footage which would be largely useless anyway? Since it's being screened in 3D and all...

 

[Zeliard]

So if the weekend comes and goes, and there's no Avatar trailer online or anything, and I have to be subjected to reading incoherent or retarded fanwank hyping of people who were at Comicon, what will be done to appease my anger and rage? Tell me, my mortal friends...

Dream dreams of tall blue creatures and marvelous moons.

Spoiler

Seriously, we need a trailer.

 

[Cheebs]

I would be absolutely stunned if someone doesn't manage to sneak footage out of this.

blurry cellphone camera quality of footage being shown in 3d so it will be blurry already? Sounds awesome.

 

[InnerFu]

Quick question.....is the ENTIRE movie going to be in CGI? (i.e. no real people featured what-so-ever.)...or is it just the environment and aliens that are going to be CGI while the humans will be played by real actors?

I always assumed it would be real people since they keep on mentioning Sam Worthington and others in terms that would make one assume that they're actually physically acting and not just doing the voices, but it seems like i also heard somewhere that the whole thing would be animated.

 

[Wollan]

Would be nice if Nvidia 3D vision (their new 3D tech for PC's) offered a proper Avatar 3D trailer on their website. Actually, they should offer a custom version of that movie (DL) for purchase when the time comes imho.

Quick question.....is the ENTIRE movie going to be in CGI? (i.e. no real people featured what-so-ever.)...or is it just the environment and aliens that are going to be CGI while the humans will be played by real actors?

40% live action, 60% cgi
There is also miniature work

 

[Cheebs]

Quick question.....is the ENTIRE movie going to be in CGI? (i.e. no real people featured what-so-ever.)...or is it just the environment and aliens that are going to be CGI while the humans will be played by real actors?

I always assumed it would be real people since they keep on mentioning Sam Worthington and others in terms that would make one assume that they're actually physically acting and not just doing the voices, but it seems like i also heard somewhere that the whole thing would be animated.

Well not to spoil much but just in case

Spoiler

Worthington becomes a cgi mo-cop character, it's his Avatar.

 

[The Librarian]

I'm not interesting in seeing this movie in 3D. 2D is more than enough for me.

So if the weekend comes and goes, and there's no Avatar trailer online or anything, and I have to be subjected to reading incoherent or retarded fanwank hyping of people who were at Comicon, what will be done to appease my anger and rage? Tell me, my mortal friends...

I will start making sacrifices.

 

[InnerFu]

ahh i see....thanks guys.

 

[GCX]

I'm cautiously optimistic.. Cameron is a great director but so far I haven't seen anything that would blow by mind (well actually he have seen pretty much nothing). I'd like to see a good movie and not just the official James Cameron 3D tech show since I'm not really interested in that stuff.

 

[FoneBone]

As has been said -- I'm sure there will be some content released to the general public, but I'm not betting on seeing any actual footage this week.

 

[Solo]

I'm cautiously optimistic.. Cameron is a great director but so far I haven't seen anything that would blow by mind (well actually he have seen pretty much nothing). I'd like to see a good movie and not just the official James Cameron 3D tech show since I'm not really interested in that stuff.

Cameron knows how to use effects better than anyone. He uses the effects to supplement the story, not the other way around. I dont think we should be worried about this being some hollow tech demo.

 

[Shorty]

I'm not interested in seeing this movie in color. Black and White is more than enough for me.

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[gdt]

I'm not interesting in seeing this movie in 3D. 2D is more than enough for me.

I don't get this comment.

 

[FirewalkR]

Would be nice if Nvidia 3D vision (their new 3D tech for PC's) offered a proper Avatar 3D trailer on their website. Actually, they should offer a custom version of that movie (DL) for purchase when the time comes imho

Get out of my mind!

I'd buy their kit just for this. Probably wouldn't need the 120Hz LCD because I still have a good CRT.

 

[Zeliard]

Cameron knows how to use effects better than anyone. He uses the effects to supplement the story, not the other way around. I dont think we should be worried about this being some hollow tech demo.

Was about to post the same sort of thing. Right on the money.

Don't question The Cameron. He always knows what he's doing.

And yes, that includes Titanic, perhaps the most puzzlingly hated movie of all-time.

 

[GCX]

Cameron knows how to use effects better than anyone. He uses the effects to supplement the story, not the other way around. I dont think we should be worried about this being some hollow tech demo.

Yep, the balance of effects and story has been pretty much perfect in his past movies but still, I'm not going to give anyone a free pass because of their resume even if it was as great as Cameron's.

It gives more hope for the final product to be actually good but I'm still not going to sing praises before seeing some actual footage or maybe even the whole movie.

 

[Veidt]

I was wondering. Why, just why won't they release the trailer for online viewing when they reveal it at comic-con ?

 

[Bit-Bit]

For those going to the screening. Just put the glasses over the cellphone lens.

It will work I swear!

 

[Wollan]

I was wondering. Why, just why won't they release the trailer for online viewing when they reveal it at comic-con ?

I think many of us are secretly hoping for a surprise trailer. They have huge banners @ Comic-Con, people will bring camera phones for the public unveiling no doubt (stuff WILL leak), the budget is enormous and the movie is five months away. I hope, I believe.

 

[jett]

So if the weekend comes and goes, and there's no Avatar trailer online or anything, and I have to be subjected to reading incoherent or retarded fanwank hyping of people who were at Comicon, what will be done to appease my anger and rage? Tell me, my mortal friends...

We'll sacrifice Sculiibundo to the 3D Gods, maybe then they'll hear our prayers.

 

[gdt]

Seriously. It's at the point where we need some footage. The movie is almost here. Hell, at least a teaser (which usually gets put out about one year before opening).

 

[Ceres]

I'm sure there will be leaked footage. The trick will be getting to it before it's taken down.

 

[critch]

Are you even interested in this movie? At this point you really have to go out of your way to find threads like this to know about this movie. The hype/promotion has not yet kicked in, not even a trailer. So why so down on it when it has not even had a its public unveiling yet?

The over the top "BEST MOVIE EVER WITHOUT A SINGLE FRAME OF FOOTAGE" from nowhere else but the internet just irks me I guess. The fact that it's under 5 months out now with no publicity is kinda telling. I am trying just to bring some sanity into the conversation. Of course I'm interested. I love sci-fi and epic. I don't like the direction Cameron is talking about though and every argument needs two sides. Like I said, if I'm wrong I'll be the first to say so.

 

[Kibbles]

I can't forgive this man after that Activision Press Conference.

 

[sinxtanx]

This will either be the best movie ever and an instant classic, or simply a very good movie and an instant classic anyway. I have faith in Cameron to pull this off.

And, yeah, we won't see a (sharp) trailer for a while.

 

[Zeliard]

The over the top "BEST MOVIE EVER WITHOUT A SINGLE FRAME OF FOOTAGE" from nowhere else but the internet just irks me I guess. The fact that it's under 5 months out now with no publicity is kinda telling.

It's called building hype and anticipation.

 

[DieNgamers]

I'm sure there will be leaked footage. The trick will be getting to it before it's taken down.

That's what I'm hoping as well..please! :lol

 

[duckroll]

I will start making sacrifices.

We'll sacrifice Sculiibundo to the 3D Gods, maybe then they'll hear our prayers.

I like where this is going, tell me more about your plans for the sacrifices.

 

[Cheebs]

I was wondering. Why, just why won't they release the trailer for online viewing when they reveal it at comic-con ?

Cause they are showing footage of the movie not a trailer. They have no plans to show a trailer at all to anyone as far as I can tell. Hopefully they'll surprise us but its better not to expect something that they are saying they won't show because if they don't then everyone will complain.

 

[Captain Pants]

I am supremely jealous of my two friends that will be at Comic Con this week. One of them knows Paul Pope(awesome comic book artist) and Paul is getting them into some sort of 'invite-only' Avatar related party that is tied to the footage being shown this week. I'll pass along anything interesting that I hear from them.

 

[Razorback]

It'll take a lot for this movie to be a better science-fiction film than 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Funny you should say that, 2001:ASO is my favorite movie. :lol

I know I'm probably deluding myself, but the feeling that there is a possibility of a new movie becoming my new favorite is magical. 2001 is great and all (the greatest) but it's about time something truly new comes along. Cinema is getting stale.

 

[duckroll]

Cause they are showing footage of the movie not a trailer. They have no plans to show a trailer at all to anyone as far as I can tell. Hopefully they'll surprise us but its better not to expect something that they are saying they won't show because if they don't then everyone will complain.

So why's there no trailer? What's Cameron's problem? There are trailers for movies coming out NEXT YEAR, and Avatar is due in December. Does he really feel that the best way to hype his movie up is to step into an Ubisoft conference and rant about his movie for 15 mins, instead of showing anything?

 

[Cheebs]

So why's there no trailer? What's Cameron's problem? There are trailers for movies coming out NEXT YEAR, and Avatar is due in December. Does he really feel that the best way to hype his movie up is to step into an Ubisoft conference and rant about his movie for 15 mins, instead of showing anything?

Is it Cameron? Fox is terrible at marketing movies it could be their fault.