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Oozer3993 said:
This thread is large and intimidating so I'll just ask this here: What are the details about the Avatar Day sneak peek? Is it first come first serve, can you reserve tickets, will they be doing normal 3D as well and not just IMAX 3D?

It will indeed be in 3D theatres outside of IMAX as well. They haven't released the booking details but you will need to reserve tickets. It is free.
 
Scullibundo said:
It will indeed be in 3D theatres outside of IMAX as well. They haven't released the booking details but you will need to reserve tickets. It is free.

I have no IMAX 3D cinemas in my country, but there are a handful of digital 3D cinemas - at least one in every major cineplex. Will I be able to watch this AVATAR DAY shit or will I be left disappointed?
 
Snaku said:
http://chud.com/articles/articles/20347/1/MEET-THE-NA039VI-AVATAR-ALIENS-REVEALED/Page1.html

Picture of Jake Sully's Na'vi avatar action figure. Don't remember seeing it in the thread...

Not a fan of the hair.

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:lol
 
Snaku at least didn't post the picture. SPOILERS DM. What don't you understand?

Also, its a shitty toy like those first shitty toy pics were released. Hardly indicative of how they actually look. You can take anything CHUD posts about AVATAR with a grain of salt.

Those asking if the 15 minute preview will be at their theatre, FOX hasn't released the booking details yet. We don't know which cinemas or what times the showing will play yet. Apparently we will be getting said info 'soon'.
 
I saw the footage at Comic-Con.

The actual character looks so much better than that toy. The toy's proportions are wrong, the hair is wrong, the face in general just doesn't look right.

Wait until the trailer.
 
Rindain said:
I saw the footage at Comic-Con.

The actual character looks so much better than that toy. The toy's proportions are wrong, the hair is wrong, the face in general just doesn't look right.

Wait until the trailer.

Dear God I hope so, I got scared again reading this from Devin:

The image on the shield looks, to my eyes, to be the exact image of the character from the movie. That's how he looks in the film.

Then I remembered it's CHUD. Devin saying it automatically makes it incorrect.
 
The constant toyline publications prior to any actual screenshots isn't doing this film any justice.
 
Scullibundo said:
CHUD talking AVATAR impressions should be taken in the same vein of Tom Arnold talking True Lies 2 news.

Exactly.

Oh, and also the eyes on the toy are WAY smaller than they are in the movie. It's just a really, really bad model.
 
Jibril said:
The constant toyline publications prior to any actual screenshots isn't doing this film any justice.

Honestly

It's getting pretty fucking bad ...almost embaressing. Even my wife is like "when the hell are they going to show it?"
 
Scullibundo said:
CHUD talking AVATAR impressions should be taken in the same vein of Tom Arnold talking True Lies 2 news.

CHUD saying anything about anything should be taken the same vein of that news.
 
AgentOtaku said:
Honestly

It's getting pretty fucking bad ...almost embaressing. Even my wife is like "when the hell are they going to show it?"

Did you tell your wife the 21st of this month? People ask every day and the same answer keeps coming back.
 
Scullibundo said:
Also, its a shitty toy like those first shitty toy pics were released. Hardly indicative of how they actually look. You can take anything CHUD posts about AVATAR with a grain of salt.

But how can that be? I thought that the Internet's reaction to Avatar @ SDCC was, in your own words, 'overwhelmingly positive'?

Scullibundo said:
CHUD talking AVATAR impressions should be taken in the same vein of Tom Arnold talking True Lies 2 news.

So what you're saying is that because Chud.com/Devin Farci's views of Avatar differ from your own he is to be dismissed?

Devin Farci, as I've said in the past, is someone whose views you may not agree with but at least he is also articulate in the way he expresses them. He saw the footage at SDCC and wrote about what he saw.

And the fact he has actually seen footage of AVATAR and you haven't seen anything, at all, it makes him the person in the know and you one of the ever growing, worrying number of 'fanboy thought Police' that roam this thread.

It boogles the mind that you have deemed yourself this default expert on the film despite not having seen a single frame of it. Relentlessly posting in this thread does not make you an expert on either Cameron or Avatar.
 
Busty said:
But how can that be? I thought that the Internet's reaction to Avatar @ SDCC was, in your own words, 'overwhelmingly positive'?



So what you're saying is that because Chud.com/Devin Farci's views of Avatar differ from your own he is to be dismissed?

Devin Farci, as I've said in the past, is someone whose views you may not agree with but at least he is also articulate in the way he expresses them. He saw the footage at SDCC and wrote about what he saw.

And the fact he has actually seen footage of AVATAR and you haven't seen anything, at all, it makes him the person in the know and you one of the ever growing, worrying number of 'fanboy thought Police' that roam this thread.

It boogles the mind that you have deemed yourself this default expert on the film despite not having seen a single frame of it. Relentlessly posting in this thread does not make you an expert on either Cameron or Avatar.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I've never said I've seen more than the guys at CHUD. There have been reactions that haven't been positive besides CHUD, believe me. The fact is that Devin has been hating on this film since the hype started growing, well before anything came out of it.

I haven't deemed myself anything Busty, I just happen to be very interested in the film and know that claiming a $2 toy is perfectly indicative of the final design will get some of the less rational members around here riled up over nothing. Its clearly not true and just another poke from a very bitter internet blogger. Whenever I think of Devin I think of that internet geek that tries to sink Aquaman in Entourage. How fitting :lol .
 
There were of people who saw the footage who were meh about it like Chud, Devin is far from the only one here. Hollywood Elswhere has been meh about Avatar since comic-con as well for example.

The reaction to the 24 min footage was somewhat mixed, you can hype it but to deny that is just blatant fanboyism. Iron Man 2's footage had a much bigger positive reaction.

I still await the movie cause I like Cameron, and will see the 15 min footage. But the reaction to the 24 minute footage was not universal praise by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Cheebs said:
There were of people who saw the footage who were meh about it like Chud, Devin is far from the only one here. Hollywood Elswhere has been meh about Avatar since comic-con as well for example.

The reaction to the 24 min footage was somewhat mixed, you can hype it but to deny that is just blatant fanboyism. Iron Man 2's footage had a much bigger positive reaction.

I still await the movie cause I like Cameron, and will see the 15 min footage. But the reaction to the 24 minute footage was not universal praise by any stretch of the imagination.

Still, Iron Man 1 was a boring summer movie. I'm more hyped for Avatar than Iron Man 2 ( barf )
 
As am I, but I am just saying Iron Man 2's footage at comic con has much more of a universally strong reaction and better buzz, which I doubt even Sculli would disagree with. There is nothing wrong with a decent amount of people not being impressed with the Avatar footage, it doesn't have to diminish your hype for it if not everyone thought it looked super impressive. But people trying to deny the critics who saw it aren't valid is just sad.
 
I was in Hall H and saw the footage and that image is pretty accurate. Avatar looks like any other CG movie. Very disppointing.


My friend really liked, though.
 
Cheebs said:
There were of people who saw the footage who were meh about it like Chud, Devin is far from the only one here. Hollywood Elswhere has been meh about Avatar since comic-con as well for example.

The reaction to the 24 min footage was somewhat mixed, you can hype it but to deny that is just blatant fanboyism. Iron Man 2's footage had a much bigger positive reaction.

I still await the movie cause I like Cameron, and will see the 15 min footage. But the reaction to the 24 minute footage was not universal praise by any stretch of the imagination.

Exactly. Avatar was supposed to be this massive, almost cultural event at SDCC. It was not. When the presentation comes second (at best, depending on who you talk to) to Iron Man 2 you know that the wheels of the Avatar hype train have come off slightly.

I'm looking forward to the footage and the film. But I am sceptical and have every right to be given the bizarre and, at times frankly laughable way the film's marketing has been handled thus far.

Scullibundo said:
You have no idea what you're talking about. I've never said I've seen more than the guys at CHUD. There have been reactions that haven't been positive besides CHUD, believe me. The fact is that Devin has been hating on this film since the hype started growing, well before anything came out of it.

I haven't deemed myself anything Busty, I just happen to be very interested in the film and know that claiming a $2 toy is perfectly indicative of the final design will get some of the less rational members around here riled up over nothing. Its clearly not true and just another poke from a very bitter internet blogger. Whenever I think of Devin I think of that internet geek that tries to sink Aquaman in Entourage. How fitting :lol .

As I've said even if you don't like Devin and his often ponderous editorials he is at the very least articulate. And as someone that reads his work I dispute this claim that he's been 'hating' on this film from the start.

His thoughts on Avatar have been a reflection on James Cameron's own chest beating over the project for not just weeks or months, but years. The man claimed it would be something of a revolution. According to some who saw the SDCC footage that's not the case.

However Scullibundo you have in the past claimed to be in direct contact with someone at WETA who worked on Avatar. Going as far as to post these supposed messages from this person.

So please don't act as if you aren't someone who has been actively engaging in the ugly side of fanboyism in these Avatar threads. Simply dismissing anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion that this will be the best thing ever.
 
Where is this IM2 talk coming from? Granted, I havent searched it out because I hated the first movie, but I havent heard squat about buzz from CC over it. In fact, the only thing Ive seen are those pics posted here a few weeks ago.
 
Cheebs said:
Hollywood Elswhere has been meh about Avatar since comic-con as well for example.

...

Hollywood Elsewhere said:
23 or 24 minutes worth of 3-D Avatar footage were shown at Comic-Con this afternoon. And it should come as no surprise to report that this taste of James Cameron's 3-D action fantasy, set on a foreign planet and involving a primal conflict between militaristic humans and a race of ten-foot-tall aliens called Na'vi, played serious wowser. As in "Jesus, this is something...oh, wow!...crap, this is new...oh, that's cool...this is so friggin' out there and vivid and real...love it all to hell."
...
I was transported, blown away, melted down, reduced to adolescence, etc. I mean, I saw some truly great stuff.

Uh-huh.
 
I was talking about the recent post from the other day about the art style of the characters on the poster, which they were critical of.

And fistful, you liked transformers lol.
 
It's still wrong to say that Hollywood Elsewhere has been meh about the movie since the presentation, though. After the CC presentation their impressions turned overwhelmingly positive, and the recent post was complaining that the poster was a poor representation of the film and the marketing is bad.

There may be an element of truth in that, but fortunately the poster floating around is most likely fake.
Why would you release the first poster without a date this close to the release?
 
By the Gods, I don't know how, but I think James Cameron is a genius, and I'm not talking about his directing, I'm talking about marketing. Talk out your ass about how cool your movie is... then never show it. We are all drooling over this film, and want just a little morsel, and all we know is that Ubisoft press conferences suck so hard that even Joel McHale can't save them.
 
Solo said:
Where is this IM2 talk coming from? Granted, I havent searched it out because I hated the first movie, but I havent heard squat about buzz from CC over it. In fact, the only thing Ive seen are those pics posted here a few weeks ago.

Yeah I didn't see any IM2 hype at all from CC either.
 
Fletcher said:
I was in Hall H and saw the footage and that image is pretty accurate. Avatar looks like any other CG movie. Very disppointing.

I'm setting my expectations for 'very good looking CG movie'. Regardless of the hyperbole from everyone involved, I really don't believe we've reached the age of photorealistic CG.

Was the detail of the world impressive, at least?
I really want to believe this will be a visual knockout, but all the things leaking out from the film lately seem to suggest otherwise. I'm hoping i will at least have great art direction, but the game screenshots and the toy don't inspire much confidence.
 
Busty said:
Exactly. Avatar was supposed to be this massive, almost cultural event at SDCC. It was not. When the presentation comes second (at best, depending on who you talk to) to Iron Man 2 you know that the wheels of the Avatar hype train have come off slightly.

I'm looking forward to the footage and the film. But I am sceptical and have every right to be given the bizarre and, at times frankly laughable way the film's marketing has been handled thus far.



As I've said even if you don't like Devin and his often ponderous editorials he is at the very least articulate. And as someone that reads his work I dispute this claim that he's been 'hating' on this film from the start.

His thoughts on Avatar have been a reflection on James Cameron's own chest beating over the project for not just weeks or months, but years. The man claimed it would be something of a revolution. According to some who saw the SDCC footage that's not the case.

However Scullibundo you have in the past claimed to be in direct contact with someone at WETA who worked on Avatar. Going as far as to post these supposed messages from this person.

So please don't act as if you aren't someone who has been actively engaging in the ugly side of fanboyism in these Avatar threads. Simply dismissing anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion that this will be the best thing ever.

Please explain to me how me sharing what somebody who works at WETA has said of his thoughts (me in fact quoting him ad verbatim every time) translates to me acting as an authority on the film? I don't pretend to have insider information that others don't. I have only disregarded CHUD. How have I pushed any opinion of the footage? I haven't claimed to have seen a frame.

You can tell that toy has the wrong proportions in terms of its face already given the official teaser image we've been given of Jake Sully's AVATAR. I don't understand what your problem is Busty, are you Devin himself?
 
Cheebs said:
I was talking about the recent post from the other day about the art style of the characters on the poster, which they were critical of.

And fistful, you liked transformers lol.

Hollywood Elsewhere said:
The new Avatar poster is wrong. The thinking behind it is about telling the uninitiated that this James Cameron film is about exotic blue-skinned people with white pinpoint tattoos. But it also suggests that the film is entirely animated, which of course it isn't. Or at least, not in the way most people understand the term "animated." Much/most of Avatar is in 3D animation of a much higher quality than anything seen before, and this poster sells this aspect short. It looks primitive and unimaginative, like a "test" poster. Take it down, Tony Sella , and make something better. Please.

The article was all about the poster being a poor representation of the actual movie.
 
DMczaf said:

Common sense people, the pic (supposedly looking exactly like the film avatars) looks nothing like splash page images on the official website. Although it's standard toy illustration fare to have the toy and it's rendered film form on the front of the box/card, it looks like this is either a really early version, or 3rd party/stand-in artwork.
 
I'm hoping for good art direction and story, only. Too bad those toy screens were leaked, they were supposed to be out only after the 21st... The (big) distance between the eyes is what makes Jake's AVATAR look weird in those pics.
 
Solo said:
Where is this IM2 talk coming from? Granted, I havent searched it out because I hated the first movie, but I havent heard squat about buzz from CC over it. In fact, the only thing Ive seen are those pics posted here a few weeks ago.

It was all over most of the movie sites. Basically it opened with some shitty behind the scenes montage and then Robert Downey Jr. showed up and asked why they were showing that stuff. Then they put on the real
(Iron Man was the best movie of last summer)
preview, which was apparently great. But yeah, it was pretty well publicized on the movie sites.

I think (and I'm a pretty big James Cameron fan) that Avatar is going to be a disappointment. Then again since my expectations have been greatly decreased I may end up loving it.

I really hope the toy pic isn't 100% accurate, it looks terrible.
 
Krev said:
I'm setting my expectations for 'very good looking CG movie'. Regardless of the hyperbole from everyone involved, I really don't believe we've reached the age of photorealistic CG.

Was the detail of the world impressive, at least?
I really want to believe this will be a visual knockout, but all the things leaking out from the film lately seem to suggest otherwise. I'm hoping i will at least have great art direction, but the game screenshots and the toy don't inspire much confidence.
I think I had bought into the hype too much. Everything about the movie seemed fine and some of it was really nice looking, but once they had a cg looking monster chasing a cg looking alien in a cg looking forest I was a little let down. Like I said, everything looked fine, I was just expecting more. Again though, my friend knew absolutley nothing about this film going in and was very satisfied with what he saw.
 
Seriously? Some are actuality critiquing the movie before they even see it based on a toy? That's like looking at the Transformers movie toys and saying the CGI will be terrible. That's ridiculous if not stupid.
 
Of course you're always going to be able to tell that sort of thing is CGI. It's demonstrating things that don't exist. You brain is automatically telling you "this isn't real" as you're watching it, no matter what the level of artistry and design behind it is.

Ideally, this movie will blend computer-generated material and live-action far more successfully than movies have in the past. But there will never be a point where you look at a CG alien or alien landscape and think of it as looking "real", despite how advanced the tech is. There will always be an element of artificiality there.
 
Zeliard said:
Of course you're always going to be able to tell that sort of thing is CGI. It's demonstrating things that don't exist. You brain is automatically telling you "this isn't real" as you're watching it, no matter what the level of artistry and design behind it is.

Ideally, this movie will blend computer-generated material and live-action far more successfully than movies have in the past. But there will never be a point where you look at a CG alien or alien landscape and think of it as looking "real", despite how advanced the tech is. There will always be an element of artificiality there.
Oh, I agree. Like I said, that damn hype train. I was hoping for more, I guess. Who knows, though. Maybe I will be singing a different tune once I see the whole movie? We'll see, but from the 24 minutes I saw, I left disappointed.
 
Having seen the toy design on Chud it only serves to reinforce my belief that Avatar will go down in history as the worst marketed 'event film' in history.

At best bizarre. At worst just laughable.

We've seen most of the films' big designs (Pandora creatures, mech suit, now Jake's Avatar) in leaked form one way or another. I still can't believe the first official shots we got from this film were from Ubisoft's tie in game. And they weren't very flattering.

I'm sure the design of Jake's Avatar works within the confines of the film's general aesthetic but seeing the design for the first time out of context as an action figure from Mattel just look ridiculous.

.....the brown laced shoes just look ludicrous on the toy.

I've no doubt that the basic design of Jake's avatar will look like the figure in the film, but in the film it will 'fit in' instead of looking like something from World of Warcraft modelling in a GAP catalogue.
 
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