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Avengers: Age of Ultron Trailer #1

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Better fighter isn't the same as stronger fighter. You think Galactus is a better fighter than Iron Fist?

He is not a fighter, but his pimphand is strong

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I am thinking that as well. The world turning on Tony after Ultron kills a few thousand or million people, and Cap has to bring him in. Also sets up a nice redemption angle for Avengers 3 or whatever to have Tony sacrifice himself to save Cap. Yes, I am still stuck on that idea.

Yep. I'm going with this. Makes the most sense.
 
Ah ok. So the world's strongest man is a better fighter than Floyd Mayweather because he can clumsily grab and put in a bear hug the most technically capable boxer on the planet...

Got it.

Living Tribunal best Marvel fighter of all.

Considering Mayweather is 5'8" and only has a 72" reach and 7" wrist, he's pretty capable within the confines of boxing, but I don't think he'd fare well against a ridiculously huge and strong dude in a fight with no rules. Also, lately isn't he a dude known for simply outpunching/outpacing his opponents to a decision and not really his knockout power?
 
So we're thinking avengers 2 -> dedicated civil war movie -> avengers 3?

I'd love it. Bring in all the shit from all tv series too

Hell, make Agents of Shield the main story driver for civil war. I'D TAKE EVERYTHING!
 
I am thinking that as well. The world turning on Tony after Ultron kills a few thousand or million people, and Cap has to bring him in. Also sets up a nice redemption angle for Avengers 3 or whatever to have Tony sacrifice himself to save Cap. Yes, I am still stuck on that idea.

The major problen with your theory is that
Cap is going to die in Cap 3
 
So we're thinking avengers 2 -> dedicated civil war movie -> avengers 3?

I'd love it. Bring in all the shit from all tv series too

Hell, make Agents of Shield the main story driver for civil war. I'D TAKE EVERYTHING!

Pretty sure Avengers 3 is a Civil War movie.
 
Would Cap actually be killed off or "killed" off much like Red Skull?

Warning possible MAJOR spoiler

Cap is killed off for real in the comics. I assume he will be in the films as well since Chris Evans contract with Marvel is ending.
 
Well if you're going to smash GoTG with Avengers for Infinity Gauntlet then a separate Infinity Gauntlet movie would make more sense than a separate Civil War one. Also I'm pretty sure Civil War is p much confirmed for A3.
Yeah maybe. Just seems strange in retrospect then that they built up the whole infinity gems thing so much, outside of gotg.

Whatever I'll be fine with either :)
 
Cap did not die at the end of Civil War. He was time displaced.

Fuck spoiler tagging 7 year old information by the way.
 
Considering Mayweather is 5'8" and only has a 72" reach and 7" wrist, he's pretty capable within the confines of boxing, but I don't think he'd fare well against a ridiculously huge and strong dude in a fight with no rules. Also, lately isn't he a dude known for simply outpunching/outpacing his opponents to a decision and not really his knockout power?

He beat the Big Show
 
Cap did not die at the end of Civil War. He was time displaced.

Fuck spoiler tagging 7 year old information by the way.

I realize that but there's no way in hell they are doing that in the films. And the only reason they changed that was due to fans wanting Steve back. He's shot and pronounced dead and was out of the comics for almost 2 years.

They aren't doing the time displacement bull shit in these films especially as Evans has said he's done with acting and his contract is ending.
 
We have no idea what Marvel will or won't do on film. And I seriously doubt there was ever any plan to let Captain America stay dead regardless of what fans wanted.

Evans didn't say he was done with acting. He said he wants to start directing things.
 
I realize that but there's no way in hell they are doing that in the films. And the only reason they changed that was due to fans wanting Steve back. He's shot and pronounced dead and was out of the comics for almost 2 years.

They aren't doing the time displacement bull shit in these films especially as Evans has said he's done with acting and his contract is ending.

He has a six film contract, he's only fulfilled five of those counting Age of Ultron and Cap 3. He'll be back for Avengers 3.
 
Hey you guys may very well be right. I'll just be shocked if they do the whole time displacement thing. Didn't like it personally. I thought Evans had 1 film left on his contract but if he has more than obviously Cap 3 won't be his end.


Also though keep in mind Bucky has I believe a 6 film contract. I still think they are setting that transition up.
 
Um yes?
He comes back but he is killed off and Bucky is Cap for a while until they brought Cap back. You really see them fake killing Cap then bringing him back even though Chris Evans has 1 movie left on his contract?

Killed of for real is something different for me than dispatched in time for one year and beeing brought back after this.

Also. Recast. James Bond was recast for like 100 years and they also stated that they are going to do the same. Would be incredible stupid to kill of their high profile characters now.
 
Killed of for real is something different for me than dispatched in time for one year and beeing brought back after this.

Also. Recast. James Bond was recast for like 100 years and they also stated that they are going to do the same. Would be incredible stupid to kill of their high profile characters now.

They already have the perfect transition with Bucky. If they start doing recasts in the middle of the MCU I dont know how audiences will rrespond to that.

Not to mention if none of the heroes die in any of these films what are the consequences? I still firmly believe they are going to kill off Cap at the least if not Tony Stark as well. They can always introduce "new" Iron Mans and Cap without having them be Steve Rodgers and Tony Stark.
 
Also though keep in mind Bucky has I believe a 6 film contract. I still think they are setting that transition up.
Bucky will definitely take over the Cap role at some point, but I'm sure Steve Rogers will return (with or without Evans).

I just don't see them permanently killing off a main character like that so soon.
 
They already have the perfect transition with Bucky. If they start doing recasts in the middle of the MCU I dont know how audiences will rrespond to that.

Not to mention if none of the heroes die in any of these films what are the consequences? I still firmly believe they are going to kill off Cap at the least if not Tony Stark as well. They can always introduce "new" Iron Mans and Cap without having them be Steve Rodgers and Tony Stark.
Why would they ever kill off popular characters just because an actor left? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Considering that the popularity comes from the properties and not the actors. They'll James Bond the parts and maybe just kill off the side characters.
 
Why would they ever kill off popular characters just because an actor left? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Considering that the popularity comes from the properties and not the actors. They'll James Bond the parts and maybe just kill off the side characters.

James Bond movies though are seen mostly as stand alone franchises for each actor. No one looks at Craigs Bond as sees him as the same dude as Connerys Bond. They are completely different and have their own films.

The MCU is one giant connected Universe with each film affecting each other. Not to mention theres movies till at least 2025. So we are going to go 20 years without any of these characters dying.....

Man the stakes sure are high for these heroes.....
 
I realize that but there's no way in hell they are doing that in the films. And the only reason they changed that was due to fans wanting Steve back. He's shot and pronounced dead and was out of the comics for almost 2 years.

They aren't doing the time displacement bull shit in these films especially as Evans has said he's done with acting and his contract is ending.

Hey look another example of repeating bullshit to the point you think it's true.
 
Hey look another example of repeating bullshit to the point you think it's true.

Lol dude we are talking about comic book heroes. Relax.

Im just simply asking, do you believe if they have Cap shot in these movies they will use time displacement to have him leave the films for 2 years and then come back? Seems pretty silly no?
 
James Bond movies though are seen mostly as stand alone franchises for each actor. No one looks at Craigs Bond as sees him as the same dude as Connerys Bond. They are completely different and have their own films.

The MCU is one giant connected Universe with each film affecting each other. Not to mention theres movies till at least 2025. So we are going to go 20 years without any of these characters dying.....

Man the stakes sure are high for these heroes.....

When Kevin Feige says they are likel going to recast, then they are likely going to recast.
 
Yeah, why make Superhero Movies like Superhero Comics? ;)

Honestly yes. Why?

Having a real hero death would be hugely impactful and could get audience goers even more emotionaly involved with caring for the heroes.

Either way bottom line I still believe Marvel will kill a hero but I'm out of this discussion its getting boring.
 
Lol dude we are talking about comic book heroes. Relax.

Im just simply asking, do you believe if they have Cap shot in these movies they will use time displacement to have him leave the films for 2 years and then come back? Seems pretty silly no?

No we're talking about the Actor quitting acting.
 
Dammit, this dude back in June already had said that Claudia Kim was at the Stark Tower party but I forgot about it. Half an hour of squinting over a screengrab has been for naught.

Anyway, since Ultron goes to kick ass in South Korea at one point, I wonder if he goes to find that particular woman or something. Maybe she made him with Tony. Or he's just a petty asshole who wrecks her country, just because.
 
Anyway, since Ultron goes to kick ass in South Korea at one point, I wonder if he goes to find that particular woman or something. Maybe she made him with Tony. Or he's just a petty asshole who wrecks her country, just because.

Or, maybe
the only reason she is in the movie is so that the studio could film super cheap overseas, and she is of little consequence to the plot at all.
 
Or, maybe
the only reason she is in the movie is so that the studio could film super cheap overseas, and she is of little consequence to the plot at all.

Considering she's hanging out with the Avengers she can't be that unimportant.
Unless Ultron ices her right off the bat in that very scene...
 
Honestly yes. Why?

Having a real hero death would be hugely impactful and could get audience goers even more emotionaly involved with caring for the heroes.

Either way bottom line I still believe Marvel will kill a hero but I'm out of this discussion its getting boring.

Character deaths are a super cheap way of building tension. A well written story doesn't need to rely on something like that. In TWS
Furys death
was pretty shocking. But the most exciting and tense part of the movie was the final
Cap vs Winter Soldier
fight. I didn't think for one second either of them would die. But their arc made the scene the most memorable.




About Ultrons design decision. Im fine with the changes to make him more expressive. You have to realize that in comics and animation the artist can kind of cheat. They can draw subtle expressions on on what are supposed to be static objects. You can see this on things like Ultron, Dooms mask and an extreme example Spideys mask. They aren't even subtle with Spidey they just full on give him a fully expressive mask. Raimi even experimented with having different masks or doing it with cg in the first Spidey movie.
 
the movies don't give that vibe at all. cool panels, i would have never guessed he'd do any of that.

i just thought he was a royal asshole going by his movie appearances.

Well, he IS a royal asshole, at least in Thor 1. But that's the origin story, so he's getting better. He still could do with more characterization, he really got nothing to do in Avengers 1 and Thor 2 was skimpy on the substance, mostly just a "villain of the week" plot on a bigger scale.
My mom likes these movies well enough as a diversion, but straight from Iron Man 1 through Avengers and Iron Man 3, she really dislikes Tony Stark himself, as when you get down to it he's kind of a complete asshole, even post-character development. Thor has at least come from asshole to hero.
 
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