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Batman set us up the box office bomb...
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Ninja Scooter
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DMczaf said:
seems to be handily beating its biggest compitition this weekend, Land of the Dead. Looks like a $25-30 million weekend is on track!
You mean Batman blaming himself for things going wrong (since only he knows about Bhutan)? I hope they don't drag that point out. They already did it in Spiderman where it makes more sense since Parker never prepared to be a hero. This new Batman already knows that killing Ra's would make Bats no different than him. Which means Gotham would end up worst off.
suaveric said:
Eh...not really. Yeah, it's usually kind of close, but I'd say that $27-$28 is definitely a possibility. Good word of mouth, a lack of a really big non-niche matinee should mean good Saturday and Sunday returns, and it could rise a bit. But yeah, $30 is out of reach.
Some context:
"Dropping a reasonable 45% from last Friday, the Warner Bros. release held up better than other recent super hero films did on their second Fridays. Spider-Man 2 fell 57% last July, X2: X-Men United declined 62% in May 2003 and The Hulk tumbled 77% in June 2003."
"Dropping a reasonable 45% from last Friday, the Warner Bros. release held up better than other recent super hero films did on their second Fridays. Spider-Man 2 fell 57% last July, X2: X-Men United declined 62% in May 2003 and The Hulk tumbled 77% in June 2003."
cvkpaladin
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suaveric said:
Did someone say, "wildcard"?
Just saw the movie, and I have to say it's fucking great. I came hyped after what everyone told me and still felt I came with low expectations relatively for what I felt when I came out of the theater 
I'm going to see it again as soon as I find more people to go with
When is it out on DVD? I NEED this movie on my shelf.
I'm going to see it again as soon as I find more people to go with When is it out on DVD? I NEED this movie on my shelf.
Great King Bowser
Property of Kaz Harai
Just saw it for the 2nd time, really fucking enjoyed it both times.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I just saw it today. Great movie. Everyone did a good job....even Katie Holmes. I went in expecting to cringe after reading everyone's reactions to her and I actually didn't mind her at all. I'm glad she won't be in the next one though. Theres nothing more they can do with her character and I don't want her to overstay her welcome. I hope the next love interest (if there needs to be one) is either Talia Al Ghul or Selina Kyle. I'd rather have a character that could reoccur in the series than some bimbo throwaway girlfriend for Bruce.
Cilian Murphy was great as the Scarecrow. A lot of people wished that he had more screen time but I'm glad he wasn't in the movie too much because if they decide to bring him back for one of the sequels it won't feel like too much of a rehash.
Anyone else think Ra's might have escaped? Normally I would say someone in that situation would be a goner but the guy is a ninja so who knows.
Anyone else think Ra's might have escaped? Normally I would say someone in that situation would be a goner but the guy is a ninja so who knows.
CosmicGroinPull
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Escape Goat
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CosmicGroinPull said:
How terribly cliche. I hope they don't do this!
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DrForester
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JC10001 said:
Well, he is an immortal
Ninja Scooter
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DrForester said:
he's also an
immortal
Spike Spiegel
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iMortals are cooler though. They don't die AND they play every song written throughout recorded history. They're a b*tch to walk with though, and jerks are always looking to steal them away if you're not careful.
Simo said:
Why even bother with Batman Forever and Batman and Robin? Sure, the former is tolerable, but only if you leave the room during the scenes with Two-Face. But Batman and Robin? I cannot sit through that. It's beyond the "train wreck" metaphor and goes directly to looking at the mutilated bodies.
Maybe I'll just the special editions of Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins. Screw the box.
CosmicGroinPull said:Why not? A doomsday weapon device is a cliche. Well, actually I just hope the focus remains on Batman, not Joker .
Well, it's like Austin Powers 2, they kill Vanessa to start within 2-3 minutes destroying everything they built. Hilarious in a comedy, but only because you know they did so purposely. In a drama, after you built up the character, it kinda devalues your work instead of letting it stand as decent but nothing exceptional which the rest of the movie is .
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xsarien said:
More filler for the boxset I guess. Rumour has it that Schumacher is assembling a "Director's Cut" of Batman Forever for the DVD release. Probably won't make the film any better but you'll get more flashback scenes for Bruce Wayne as well as a scene of Bruce and Alfred surveying the damage done to the Batcave by the Riddler.
CosmicGroinPull
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I don't think $25M will be that hard, and I agree that $26-27M might be a more realistic number. You can't just triple the number. I mean that will certainly give you a rough estimate; by saying $24M you might only be $1-3M off, but you have to take other things into account. Demographics, word of mouth, popularity, marketing effectiveness, etc. Btaman has tremendous word of mouth, great reviews, AND is beating the new movies for the week pretty well. On a weekend that should finally possibly beat last year's for the first time in like 4 months. That means that people are actually getting out there and making the choice to go see batman because they really want to. that could easily account for an extra bump across saturday and sunday.
no matter what though, the movie will have just shy of $125 after 12 days and should at this point might be on its way to join the top 5 most successful movies of the year (and easily third most succesful movie of the summer after Ep3 and WOTW).
I think it is hard to knock the business batman is doing. Sure we would have all loved to see Spider-Man or X-Men type numbers, but I REALLY think those that are disappointed were underestimating the amount of bad blood generated by Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, not to mention continuously airing reruns of the 60's show.
Now Batman Continues on the other hand, that I think it is safe to say would be fair to expect a larger tentpole style opening weekend for... a la X2.
no matter what though, the movie will have just shy of $125 after 12 days and should at this point might be on its way to join the top 5 most successful movies of the year (and easily third most succesful movie of the summer after Ep3 and WOTW).
I think it is hard to knock the business batman is doing. Sure we would have all loved to see Spider-Man or X-Men type numbers, but I REALLY think those that are disappointed were underestimating the amount of bad blood generated by Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, not to mention continuously airing reruns of the 60's show.
Now Batman Continues on the other hand, that I think it is safe to say would be fair to expect a larger tentpole style opening weekend for... a la X2.
borghe said:
I think you're underestimating the idiocy of the general public and the strong responses being given to Fantastic 4. It would be an abomination if FF would outgross Batman Begins, but I really think it could happen. It seems like the kind of film that even terrible reviews won't keep back from having a large opening weekend.
Ehhh...I really think you're overestimating it. I think that it's opening was really quite strong. It opened to a strong five-day total, not too far off from the highest Batman opening of $52 Million, and in general performed as I would have expected. I don't think it's success was so directly tied to the past films...I know that I didn't even, personally, think much about them when seeing the film. I think it has been too long for it to have a huge effect on today's teenagers, and a majority of adults are probably not even too worried about it.
We can expect it...but it all depends on when it releases. I think that it has the potential to gross big, but I think there are too many variables to expect an X2 style opening.
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CosmicGroinPull said:
The movie was never about the doomsday device. It was merely a plot device to introduce tension and suspense. The movie built so that it was all internal conflict and then ultimately Ras. So I think I'm more willing to overlook the doomsday device simply because it was necessary and not the focus of the movie.
Killing Rachel is killing the core of the movie and that is its characters. To simply off one in a cliche "You killed my girlfriend Im going to make you pay but then I realize I've become what I hate" is cheap and brings the film down.
Kabuki Waq
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they should just have rachel run off with some actor offscreen.
BigGreenMat
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J2 Cool said:
The Bourne Supremacy anyone?
BigGreenMat said:
Yeah...that's probably a good example of it. For the record, I think that killing her character wouldn't be such a terrible thing, but at the same time I thought that any problems with her were purely in terms of story and not her performance. She simply wasn't made important in the context of the story, and I hope they at least leave her in and build her importance if they plan on martyr...ing her.
Box Office is about what I expected, and a 45% drop is pretty good for a film of this nature, although the drop would have been much higher without the Wednesday opening. Still, it's a good start for the film and should lead to it eventually passing Madagascar to become the 2nd Highest Grossing Film of the Summer, although it may never even make it there if War of the World starts off insanely strong.
Escape Goat
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Alba in FF makes me want to be straight. But that guy who plays Human Torch makes me want to be gay.
Megafoo Chavez
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only suggestion would be to do them both at the same time. somehow convincing them to boink..while you "take pictures" then sneaking your penis in for some double double blowjob 
suaveric said:
I think FF will do far better than it should...but the reality is that I don't think it will outgross Batman Begins before War of the Worlds does, if at all.
Still...
Hot guy for the ladies? Check.
Hot girl for the men? Check.
Giant explosions and car-crushing action for the asexuals? Check.
Superstretchy guy and giant yellowish guy for the kinky females? Check.
It's got it all, from an idiots perspective. Sigh. If it grosses over $150 Million, it shall be a travesty.
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Memles said:
Everybody seems to hate this film already. Why is that? have you seen it or was there a leaked version or something?
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