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Batman vs Superman trailer leaked

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Trailer was alright. I do like the direction with Bats.

And one of the voice overs in the beginning sounded like Elastigirl from The Incredibles.
 
Looks great. There seem to be a lot of people commenting in here that have no idea that "Dark Knight Returns" exists...and that it's some of the best Batman material ever. This isn't the first time in the fiction that Batman and Superman fight.

Wasn't there a sequel to that? Maybe that should be incorporated as well
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Looks great to me. The shots of Supes flying look awesome, he really has the imagery down.
 
looks good as fuck to me. Have the MCU fanboys started shitting on it yet? Not colorful enough perhaps?

You do realise the hilarious irony of your post right?

In any case, I'm an unashamed Marvel fanboy, and loved Man Of Steel and loved this trailer. In real life, people can like lots of different things!
 
all the batman shit was hype as fuck

superman stuff with pretty much the exact same tone from MoS though...which isn't good, but I guess to be expected given its the same director
 
I guess for me, I want more dark and grim comic adaptations because they (in theory) problematize and challenge our knowledge of the source material more than something like, say, Avengers does.

Given the proliferation of dark and grim comics over the last 30 years though, what exactly are dark and grim comic adaptations challenging? Is it really subversion when it's doing the same thing?
 
2016? Jesus didn't know the wait was next year. Gonna contain my hype and keep waiting, Superman was hot garbage so I'm seeing it it turns out.
 
Snyder probably in the middle of a workout right now, not knowing what's going on lol.
 
I'm not sure what you mean. You want the source material to be challenged by darker films? Because the comics in general go to much, much, much darker places than literally any superhero adaptation, including the blacker than black Daredevil we just got. If you mean you want assumptions of what the comics actually are to be challenged, I guess that makes sense... but even then, I'm not sure most people would get much joy out of, say, Kraven's Last Hunt being the next Spider-Man movie. Stories like that work as part of the larger tapestry, not so much as the only Spider-Man movie your eight year old kid gets to see for three years.

I think that's the problem. Something like the Avengers is so overtly targeted at younger demographics that the ability to tell a complex story is seriously complicated.

It's comfortably fitting that we're talking about this in a thread for a movie that seemingly borrows heavily from The Dark Knight Returns, because Frank Miller essentially identified and addressed the same problem with comics in 1985.
 
Given the proliferation of dark and grim comics over the last 30 years though, what exactly are dark and grim comic adaptations challenging? Is really subversion when it's doing the same thing?

Bit of my problem as well, comics and comic book movies in the 2000s did "deconstruction" and grim tones so often it just comes of as silly and trying too hard.

Not the problem here though, here it just feels like they're injecting a heavy dose of Batman into what should be a Superman sequel to ensure it sells.
 
I don't see Man of Steel Superman getting scratched by most of that. Dude survived getting tossed through countless buildings and atmospheric reentry and god knows what else without a scratch, he's not going to be punched out. And I doubt we're going to see Batman manage to build some sort of armor advanced enough to go toe to toe with him unless the movie makers really want to leave the contemporary setting behind.
 
Do none of you understand that the only reason to watch this is for based Snyder's gorgeous action sequences? I don't get how anyone gives a fuck about anything else. Hyped for this.
 
Going to refrain from watching until on youtube. Going to be hard :(.

WB probably going to post tomorrow at this rate, they want all their views consolidated and leaks kind of screw that up.
 
Eh...

It's hard to put my finger on it, but it kind of just has a "darker MCU" kind of vibe to it. I'm not really interested in the world or the premise, it just seems to focus on "hoo hey there are heroes and they fight".

Cinematography/action reminds me of MCU as well.

I do like the concept of a theological debate surrounding Superman - giving him worshipers and challengers trying to fight for mankind's supremacy is a really neat idea. I don't know though, I wasn't feeling this trailer.

and for the record, I hate (movie) MCU. My favorite live action super-hero adaptations are Nolan's Batman and Netflix Daredevil.
 
I think that's the problem. Something like the Avengers is so overtly targeted at younger demographics that the ability to tell a complex story is seriously complicated.

That's not what he's saying at all.

The problem isn't catering to four-quadrant audiences, it's that superhero deconstruction only works when it follows many many years of superhero traditions. That's what made DKR effective, that's what made Watchmen effective. It doesn't work when the majority of the material is made like that because then the subversion becomes the tradition.
 
Batman looking great! Not sure what's up with the premise and how it extends to involving Lex/WW/Aqua, but we're still a ways away.

I'm going to do my best to stay out of the silly debates and just sit back and passively enjoy all the moaning about what a Supes/Bats movie "should" be.
 
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