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[lawful]

Hopefully Batman's lines were taken out of context because they were very poorly worded.

He was clearly channeling that other ultimate badass who took down a seemingly all powerful alien

 

[More_Badass]

Which is so dumb, especially when they have Arrow which they so badly want to be Batman. Plus, we've got Gotham which is fucking grim dark (and hella cheesy). Just give us live action TV series Batman.

Anywho, not a fan of the trailer too much grim dark which is fine for Batman but not fine for Superman. Also, I REALLY hope they whole Batman v. Superman shit is not the majority of the movie. I've never liked it when the two characters have fought physically or been so fundamentally at odds with each other, it's nonsense. Superman could beat Batman's ass easily, it's not a competition. But, their really is no reason for them to fight unless Superman goes crazy, which should never happen.

I think the Animated Series Batman/Superman team up episode was the best way for those characters two meet and play out.

Superman/Batman was a lot of fun

 

[gundamkyoukai]

trailer did nothing for me .
Plus Batman vs Superman was always stupid as fuck .

 

[J10]

Exactly, probably going to break before the end of the day though.



I'm thinking something similar. Batman doesn't go into this fight expecting to win, rather just make him bleed. Luthor may be involved in some capacity, maybe even trying to convince Batman to kill him. The goal of Batman would be to show the world that their "God" bleeds and is just a man, recording the whole fight as it goes down. Superman is thankful that Batman does this because he doesn't want the world worshiping him like a god. Lex gets desperate and goes to plan B, which leads into the 3rd or 2nd act of the movie, where Diana is introduced and they all team up to handle a new threat.

Diana's primary motivation for leaving Paradise Island is because she hears about this "God" thinking he may be literally a Greek God causing trouble. Aquaman's situation is similar, especially with rumors that he is related to Wonder Woman.

People who think Batman or Superman are going to try to kill each other in earnest are delusional.

I don't really like the idea of Lex and Batman conspiring against Superman unless he's not in control of himself. I would rather see Batman and Superman staging a fight, but not revealing that they staged it until later in the story.

 

[BkMogul]

Can't watch it at work. How's the quality? Worth waiting until Monday?

Hell, what a dumb question. I'll probably watch it anyway.

 

[Screaming Meat]

I've never liked it when the two characters have fought physically or been so fundamentally at odds with each other, it's nonsense. Superman could beat Batman's ass easily, it's not a competition.

Characters who are outmatched by their enemy but still manage to win, have been a staple of fiction since time immemorial.

I think the Animated Series Batman/Superman team up episode was the best way for those characters two meet and play out.

Didn't Batman Judo Throw Supes across a room...?

 

[burgervan]

Zack Snyder trailers are always way better than the movie and that's not even that good good of a trailer.

 

[J10]

Can't watch it at work. How's the quality? Worth waiting until Monday?

Hell, what a dumb question. I'll probably watch it anyway.

Half of it is voiceover and black screen.

 

[Cheebo]

It is crazy how lukewarm the reaction is online to this, bad luck having this leak so quickly after the near universally loved Star Wars trailer. Anything by comparison was bound to fall short. They should have held off at least another week or two for things to die down.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

I get that I guess. But in the end as a film IM3 had a terrific, quirky Shane Black script that really shine next to the workmanlike dialogue of most superhero films that really set it apart.

Personally I find all superhero movies tend to have full action particularly when they go epic - just a bunch of pixels and fake physics. I really prefer more intimate, cool action such as Iron Man rescuing falling passengers or the White House break in early scene from XMen 2. I find the climax of stuff like MoS or The Avengers a grudge to get through most of the time.

Lol I guess they're just not targeting me with those big scenes!

Mind you just because Black's script features a fake Mandarin doesn't mean they can't bring in the real one of they want.

Sure, but that doesn't really fix how the Mandarin turn ruins Iron Man 3 for me. It's not just that they ruined Mandarin, it's that they had been hyping him up for the entire movie, and then when they did the turn, they didn't have a good villain to back him up for the finale. I spent the whole movie waiting for him to fight Mandarin, and the final fight scene is just one guy using the same powers that Tony Stark ran into in another fight scene with two people earlier in the movie (Which I also think was a way better fight scene). I believe the turn also does a disservice to the plot and script. I think the last third of Iron Man 3 is really, really boring.

That said, the first two thirds have some cool parts in them. I would still count it as probably the worst MCU movie though.

 

[More_Badass]

Characters who are outmatched by their enemy but still manage to win, have been a staple of fiction since time immemorial.

Look at The Odyssey. Odysseus besting the mighty Cyclops through intellect, trickery, and an old fashioned spike through the eye

 

[FrigidEh]

How are there 27 pages for a 2 minute trailer that shows nothing?

Looks interesting, can't wait to see more.

 

[EmptySpace]

I felt nothing, the mere fact that sups could annihilate him in an instant makes the faux suspense unbelievable.

then don't watch the movie.


this ridiculous argument is just so pathetic. hurrr durrrr supes is so powerful that this doesn't make any sense.

yeah, let the movie end within one minute since hurrr durrr no one can beat supes.

 

[Screaming Meat]

Look at The Odyssey. Odysseus besting the mighty Cyclops through intellect, trickery, and an old fashioned spike through the eye

You're probably joking, but Odysseus is basically ancient Batman in all but name.

And costume.

And cool gadgets.

And other stuff.

 

[Schweinehund]

I don't really like the idea of Lex and Batman conspiring against Superman unless he's not in control of himself. I would rather see Batman and Superman staging a fight, but not revealing that they staged it until later in the story.

I'd only dislike it if Batman trusts Lex. We're dealing with a vet Batman, any plan he may have made with Lex should be in order to gain more intelligence about him. It'd be extremely out of character for Batman to work with Lex completely. I can't think of a single instance where Batman has completely trusted Lex. Even with Lex on the Justice League right now he's constantly looking for ways to nail him to the wall.

I dunno about them staging anything because this is their first meeting, but I'll be disappointed if they aren't friends at the end of the movie. I'm sure they'll have scenes when they cover each other's backs. I could easily see the kryptonite ring scene (supes giving Batman a kryptonite ring out of trust) or something similar at the end of the movie.

 

[Raptor]

Already saw it like 20 times and is all blurry, when the real deal drops I will put it non stop all day.

All talking about Superman and who they think he is and what it represents to the world is fucking cool as hell.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I felt nothing, the mere fact that sups could annihilate him in an instant makes the faux suspense unbelievable.

I mean, a rage fuelled Hulk could annihilate pretty much everyone in Age of Ultron, but that fact won't distract me from watching it because while I know that's true, having Hulk squash everyone and everything in five seconds is boring, some liberties have been taken with power levels...

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Hopefully Batman's lines were taken out of context because they were very poorly worded.

No way that's how the line actually goes in the movie. Definitely sounds like two separate sentences being put together. Simplest explanation being that Superman responds before Batman tells him "you will."

How are there 27 pages for a 2 minute trailer that shows nothing?

Looks interesting, can't wait to see more.

So, you're saying that the nothing you saw looks interesting?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Look at The Odyssey. Odysseus besting the mighty Cyclops through intellect, trickery, and an old fashioned spike through the eye

There comes to a point where none of that can help.
Still going to be interesting in how they do it.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Henry's hairline receding faster than a speeding bullet. Starting to think the lack of s curl is less of an artistic choice and more like there was nothing they could do.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

It is crazy how lukewarm the reaction is online to this, bad luck having this leak so quickly after the near universally loved Star Wars trailer. Anything by comparison was bound to fall short.

Part of it is that this trailer has like zero action, and they've already hyped up the concept of Batman fighting Superman, but all this trailer does is try to further hype up Batman fighting Superman without actually showing Batman fighting Superman. Overall it just feels like a bland trailer that isn't showing us much new stuff. Outside of like, one shot of Affleck in the suit, which would have gotten just as much hype if they just released a screenshot of it.

 

[Schweinehund]

Already saw it like 20 times and is all blurry, when the real deal drops I will put it non stop all day.

All talking about Superman and who they think he is and what it represents to the world is fucking cool as hell.

It really brings sense to what Kevin T said about DC films

“The worlds of DC are very different,” he said. “They’re steeped in realism, and they’re a little bit edgier than Marvel’s movies.”

His steeped in realism applies to what I thought it meant, that this is how a world would react with Superman in it, not necessarily that Superman is realistic. People would worship him, they've worshiped others for less.

I like the themes they are bringing to this movie. Doing what other super hero movies do would only lead to fatigue of the genre.

 

[foxtrot3d]

Characters who are outmatched by their enemy but still manage to win, have been a staple of fiction since time immemorial.

Didn't Batman Judo Throw Supes across a room...?

1. Superman is Superman, he can't be beaten by some regular dude unless we are using cheap kryptonite.

2. The characters just should be fighting at all. 99% of the time they do it's to fill some fanboy urge to find out "but if the green lantern and Batman really did fight, who would win?"

3. Superman Animated Series version was more underpowered than modern Superman.

 

[Vyer]

Already saw it like 20 times and is all blurry, when the real deal drops I will put it non stop all day.

All talking about Superman and who they think he is and what it represents to the world is fucking cool as hell.

yeah, I like the "False God" angle. Feels like the type of reaction that could happen in today's doom building media cycle.

 

[Plinko]

then don't watch the movie.


this ridiculous argument is just so pathetic. hurrr durrrr supes is so powerful that this doesn't make any sense.

yeah, let the movie end within one minute since hurrr durrr no one can beat supes.

You seem to be taking this too seriously. It is a legitimate argument--it is on the writers to convince the viewers otherwise, and I have faith they can do it.

 

[FrigidEh]

No way that's how the line actually goes in the movie. Definitely sounds like two separate sentences being put together. Simplest explanation being that Superman responds before Batman tells him "you will."



So, you're saying that the nothing you saw looks interesting?

I'm saying the nothing I saw makes me want to see something.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

1. Superman is Superman, he can't be beaten by some regular dude unless we are using cheap kryptonite.

I find Batman just putting on a big armor suit less dumb than a radioactive space rock that immediately cripples Superman. I've always fucking hated the idea of kryptonite.

 

[More_Badass]

1. Superman is Superman, he can't be beaten by some regular dude unless we are using cheap kryptonite.

2. The characters just should be fighting at all. 99% of the time they do it's to fill some fanboy urge to find out "but if the green lantern and Batman really did fight, who would win?"

3. Superman Animated Series version was more underpowered than modern Superman.

I bet Batman has a superpowered ace up his sleeve to even the odds aka Wonder Woman.

 

[Schweinehund]

Always wondered why kryptonite is "cheap". Why is it cheap when you're fighting a god like figure. Wouldn't it be "cheap" for superman to use his powers?

I bet Batman has a superpowered ace up his sleeve to even the odds aka Wonder Woman.

Saving it for BvS 2 in 2020. Batman is about winning the war.

 

[Shuggananas]

I find Batman just putting on a big armor suit less dumb than a radioactive space rock that immediate cripples Superman. I've always fucking hated the idea of kryptonite.

"this character is godly but a special space rock will make him very weak !"
Who said terrible writing ? I heard you !

 

[Kenzodielocke]

It's a shame we will never have live action Batman series. The Batman universe has simply the best villains than in any other comic universe, IMHO.

 

[MDSLKTR]

People in here all baffled at the prospect of a Bats vs. Supes fight.

Seriously It's been going on forever in comics, anyone who's a fan of both characters knows that this is the ultimate event to grace the big screen. At least you can tell easily who has knowledge in the source material and who has concerns.

 

[FrigidEh]

"this character is godly but a special space rock will make him very weak !"
Who said terrible writing ? I heard you !

If our Sun makes him powerful, how does it not make sense that a rock cripples him?

 

[foxtrot3d]

It's a shame we will never have live action Batman series. The Batman universe has simply the best villains in any other comic universe, IMHO.

It's called Arrow...

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

I need to see a Supes trailer for this movie. so far, this trailer basically sets up the bats and his coming back out to throw down with supes, painting supes as almost a villain.

Surely we'll get a trailer from supes's perspective, where he feels completely torn between what he can do and what he has done, that he was both a savior and destroyer all at once.

i mean, perhaps i'm giving the film too much credit in assuming so but this feels like a very one sided trailer.

 

[EmptySpace]

You seem to be taking this too seriously. It is a legitimate argument--it is on the writers to convince the viewers otherwise, and I have faith they can do it.

these are the types of people who will whine no matter what. they can't even believe supes just landed on the ground instead of landing on top of bats. see how pathetic that is?


maybe they will whine again once we see bats dodging a punch. "but supes is faster than a speeding bullet..."

 

[thecouncil]

The only dumb thing about Kryptonite is when it makes him ill. It should just null his powers and make him as strong as the average human. He lived on a planet made of Kryptonite, no? He wasn't sick and dying every day.

 

[BFIB]

Well, looks like we get the fallout from the salty tears at the end of Man of Steel. Hopefully that appeases the fans who shit all over the Zod/Supes battle.

Loved Man of Steel, cannot wait for this.

 

[Effect]

It really brings sense to what Kevin T said about DC films

“The worlds of DC are very different,” he said. “They’re steeped in realism, and they’re a little bit edgier than Marvel’s movies.”

His steeped in realism applies to what I thought it meant, that this is how a world would react with Superman in it, not necessarily that Superman is realistic. People would worship him, they've worshiped others for less.

I like the themes they are bringing to this movie. Doing what other super hero movies do would only lead to fatigue of the genre.

I think this is what a lot of people reasoned as well but there were of course some that took it as a chance to jump on and bash without thinking it through.

As for the trailer. It's now hosted on streaming sites that WB have no power over unless they want to start issuing law suits. These are what Huffington Post and ComicBookResources are linking to now. I really wonder if WB is going to issue a statement or just go live and perhaps offer those that see the IMAX viewings something extra to keep them going to make the theaters happy. Seeing it online of course will not replace seeing it in theaters.

 

[Pagusas]

It's called Arrow...

Not the same at all.

 

[Raptor]

It really brings sense to what Kevin T said about DC films

“The worlds of DC are very different,” he said. “They’re steeped in realism, and they’re a little bit edgier than Marvel’s movies.”

His steeped in realism applies to what I thought it meant, that this is how a world would react with Superman in it, not necessarily that Superman is realistic. People would worship him, they've worshiped others for less.

I like the themes they are bringing to this movie. Doing what other super hero movies do would only lead to fatigue of the genre.

yeah, I like the "False God" angle. Feels like the type of reaction that could happen in today's doom building media cycle.

Completly agree with you guys here.

Jor-El was right, "he will be a God to them" on MoS :O

 

[Mengy]

Zack Snyder trailers are always way better than the movie and that's not even that good good of a trailer.

Yeah, I'm honestly surprised at how lackluster this trailer was. I mean it was okay, but usually Zack trailers are fucking fantastic, hell they are usually better than his movies! Maybe he didn't make this one himself? Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing more as they release it, but this trailer did nothing to get me over my MoS disappointment, it left me still squarely neutral but hopeful for BvsS.



BUT, compared to the Star Wars teaser and the plethora of Avengers 2 media that Marvel has released, this was pretty much nothing special, far less than I was expecting for a first look teaser.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

I find Batman just putting on a big armor suit less dumb than a radioactive space rock that immediately cripples Superman. I've always fucking hated the idea of kryptonite.

 

[Blader]

The only dumb thing about Kryptonite is when it makes him ill. It should just null his powers and make him as strong as the average human. He lived on a planet made of Kryptonite, no? He wasn't sick and dying every day.

It's the effect of Kryptonite under the sun (or in the earth's atmosphere? I forget which).

 

[thecouncil]

It's the effect of Kryptonite under the sun (or in the earth's atmosphere? I forget which).

ah. ha. well alright then.

 

[Messypandas]

Bat can break supes the same way an etch-a-sketch can break the Gustav gun

All about the chemistry

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

If our Sun makes him powerful, how does it not make sense that a rock cripples him?

I would be fine with kryptonite taking his powers away. It's the hurting him I don't like. I realize it's not overly logical, just how I've always felt. It just always felt lame and uninteresting to me.

Batman really is prepared for anything.

 

[More_Badass]

People confusing teaser and trailer are kind of amusing
Take Polygon's headline for example: "The leaked Batman v Superman trailer is everything wrong with DC's films"
Bashing it for being too dark and gritty, and not showing enough

 

[Messypandas]

"Polygon is everything wrong with internet journalism"

 

[Screaming Meat]

1. Superman is Superman, he can't be beaten by some regular dude unless we are using cheap kryptonite.

Batman isn't a regular dude. He's arguably the Most Dangerous Man In The World. Superman's main antagonist is Lex Luthor, a "regular dude". He gives him all sorts of trouble.

2. The characters just should be fighting at all. 99% of the time they do it's to fill some fanboy urge to find out "but if the green lantern and Batman really did fight, who would win?"

Lighten up and go with it.

3. Superman Animated Series version was more underpowered than modern Superman.

Not that underpowered.