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[The Take Out Bandit]

PF2012/PF2 were vastly superior to PF which was just clunky as hell.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Toshinden 1 was amazing in its time, when the only other 3D fighter was VF1 and its gourad shaded polygons.

Unfortunately, its time was the 3 months until Tekken came out. Still, it wasn't a bad game

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as long as you mapped the special move to the triggers so they were actually possible.

Oh yeah, that last stage was the most amazing thing ever at the time.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Although, the franchise seems pretty dead now.

Pretty much, although it spawned the sequel, PF 2012, which then got ported to the Playstation 1 with some extra features and the three characters missing from the original, a Puzzle Bobble spin-off (Psychic Force Puzzle Taisen), and then Psychic Force Complete came out last December.

Unfortunately, while the game contains "Psychic Force 2102 EX," featuring Brad, Genma, and Soma, it's missing all the PSX PF2 features. As I recall, it had new anime cut scenes and a bigger story mode. It's been some time since I played that version; it's back in the States on my shelf. Anyway, PF Complete was kinda crappy and the ports weren't very good. Bad image quality (DC PF 2012 looks better; I think these are just ports of the arcade games, which would explain the difference), less detailed visuals, and muffled sound effects.

Still wasn't an X/1999 game released for PS1, with the same type of gameplay.

Yes, and it's interesting too, since Psychic Force's concepts were clearly taken from X/1999, and then years later, Taito would end up making an X game using the Psychic Force engine! The game is basically just Psychic Force 2012 with different backgrounds, character models, and music...some of the character even have the exact same moves as characters from PF.

Also another title that reminds me of Psychic Force is that Psy-Phi Arcade game Sega supposedly is working on, any new info on that.. ?!

Didn't it get cancelled?

 

[Shogmaster]

Toshinden 1 was amazing in its time, when the only other 3D fighter was VF1 and its gourad shaded polygons.

VF1 didn't have gouraud shading. It was flat shaded. Saturn didn't have gouraud shaidng abilities.

 

[Sp3eD]

Toshinden 1 was 3d Street Fighter done right. a decade+ later it still is the tops in that catagory.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Toshinden 1 was 3d Street Fighter done right. a decade+ later it still is the tops in that catagory.

 

[Shogmaster]

Toshinden 1 was 3d Street Fighter done right. a decade+ later it still is the tops in that catagory.

Sarcasm meter = broken

 

[jarrod]

VF1 didn't have gouraud shading. It was flat shaded. Saturn didn't have gouraud shaidng abilities.

Fighting Vipers used gourad shading (at the expense of frame rate).

 

[mug]

Great PS1 launch game.

Although I prefer Bushido Blade for my PS1 fighting needs

 

[Shogmaster]

Fighting Vipers used gourad shading (at the expense of frame rate).

Even in FV, Saturn couldn't do the multiplicative gouraud shading that PS could do. VF only managed additive (that's why the shading looks washed out and flatter).

IMO, the biggest advantage PS hardware had over Saturn was alpha transparencies and gouraud shading.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

VF1 didn't have gouraud shading.It was flat shaded.

LOL, you're right. It's been a decade since I've even used those terms.

 

[ToxicAdam]

The saving grace for Toshinden was that:

1 It was a launch title
2 It had two player mode
3 Every other launch title had about 10 hours of gameplay


So, I played the hell out of it waiting for more PS1 games to be released. The single player mode could be completed in an evening. The two player mode offered alot more satisfaction.

At the time, it looked amazing. Wasn't really until Tekken 2 that it was topped.

 

[mr jones]

The saving grace for Toshinden was that:

1 It was a launch title
2 It had two player mode
3 Every other launch title had about 10 hours of gameplay


So, I played the hell out of it waiting for more PS1 games to be released. The single player mode could be completed in an evening. The two player mode offered alot more satisfaction.

At the time, it looked amazing. Wasn't really until Tekken 2 that it was topped.

I wasn't interested in a Tekken game until Tekken 2. That game just looked SO MUCH better than the first Tekken. Hell, I think that Virtua Fighter 2 was out before Tekken 2, and I'd look at VF2 next to Tekken (and BAT2) and wonder "WHY is everyone hating on VF when it looks and plays so much better??"

Do you think that a Bushido Blade game would work well today? That game would've been sweet if it wasn't for the fact that the game loaded every time you ran 40 steps away from your opponent...

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

That game would've been sweet if it wasn't for the fact that the game loaded every time you ran 40 steps away from your opponent...

Right, and if you weren't complete runner scum, you might have noted that you were running between stages. Explaining the loading.

Do you think that a Bushido Blade game would work well today?

I think a BB game today would be great. The technology is better suited to delivering the lush environments BB wanted to present players with.

God damn, it would be awesome.

Problem is BB2 started down the path of softening the game for players who just didn't get the point of it.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Edia to port Battle Arena Toshinden games to modern platforms

Edia has entered into a licensing agreement with Takara Tomy to port 3D fighting games Battle Arena Toshinden, Battle Arena Toshinden 2, and Battle Arena Toshinden 3 to modern platforms, the compan…

www.gematsu.com

 

[bender]

Edia to port Battle Arena Toshinden games to modern platforms

Edia has entered into a licensing agreement with Takara Tomy to port 3D fighting games Battle Arena Toshinden, Battle Arena Toshinden 2, and Battle Arena Toshinden 3 to modern platforms, the compan…

www.gematsu.com

 

[ReBurn]

Oh man I'll get this for sure. One of my PS1 standards.

 

[Sooner]

It was the first game I played on PlayStation. My buddies and I played a ton of it at launch.

I seriously doubt it holds up today - or even in 2006 when this thread was made.

 

[Dzab]

I played BAT3 a lot, used to rent it often. These games aren't great lol, but they're enjoyable and cheesy, can't wait for 3 to be ported. Was literally playing it on my PS1 the other day, it had a 60fps toggle in the options but it turns all the backgrounds into low/no texture kinda things.

 

[A.Romero]

Great news.

This thread was necroed after 19 years. It might be a record.

 

[consoul]

We need to go back to a time when games boasted about polygons per second on their covers.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I only played Toshinden 1 recently, when I got a Mister FPGA.
Back in the day, the graphics melted some brains. An Italian video game magazine legendarily scored it a 105 out of 100, to better run home the idea that it was something never before seen in your living room.

And wow… it sucks.
There's pretty much only 1 usable camera setting out of 4.
The responsiveness is terrible.
The CPU wants you dead and buried from round one.
I understand it was very impressive for its time, but as bad as some people on GAF paint Tekken 1, that game easily curbstomped Toshinden into oblivion.

 

[saintjules]

Great news.

This thread was necroed after 19 years. It might be a record.

Until they create an auto lock feature after x amount of time, you can necro anytime

 

[Ellis]

The Saturn version's graphics were significantly butchered.


PSone ports to the Saturn always just killed...I think Resident Evil might be the only decent one. God, transparency effects are just totally slaughtered.

The real flaw in those PS1 to Saturn games is the audio. Sure, transparencies sucked, but Resident Evil sounded fucking terrible on Saturn. Easily the biggest downgrade. I actually preferred the chunky models though.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Nostalgia chills down my spine right about now.

 

[spookyfish]

It was my launch PlayStation game. I enjoyed it, but the PS pad made fighters difficult.

 

[Kacho]

One of the better necros. But this is new thread worthy.

 

[Toots]

I remembered that it sucked donkey balls compared to tekken 2, but had lightsaber action and ultimate moves which were not in Tekken so it found its audience.

 

[ReBurn]

I only played Toshinden 1 recently, when I got a Mister FPGA.
Back in the day, the graphics melted some brains. An Italian video game magazine legendarily scored it a 105 out of 100, to better run home the idea that it was something never before seen in your living room.

And wow… it sucks.
There's pretty much only 1 usable camera setting out of 4.
The responsiveness is terrible.
The CPU wants you dead and buried from round one.
I understand it was very impressive for its time, but as bad as some people on GAF paint Tekken 1, that game easily curbstomped Toshinden into oblivion.

I'd buy this mainly for nostalgia, but I did enjoy the game. But I also really like the jank of the early PS1 games. I'm sure this isn't going to hold up well but I'd still buy it for the feelings. I'm hoping that Tekken 1 and Soul Blade/Edge are also released soon. I'm loving replaying Tekken 3.