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Bayonetta 2 looks INCREDIBLE!
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foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I was gonna make this thread but commentating on how good the city looks and how they absolutely nailed the city they based the game of (venus? forgot the exact name) and god such gorgeous locations with a impressive sense of scale.
Yes.
It sometimes momentarily dips when DEMONS THE SIZE OF SKYSCRAPERS ARE TEARING THE ENTIRE WORLD APART ON SCREEN, but I can easily forgive it for that.
Very pleased with the performance, personally.
What? Are we looking at the same game? They're very minimal and hardly the focus when you're kicking ass on-screen.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
TyrantGuardian
Member
Actually the first chapter in Noatun with the pool/floor of water reflects the sky had some of the worst framerate in the game for me, go figure.
lukeskymac
Member
Not being impressed by 720p no AA with last-gen complexity models/textures confirmed for definition of being at elementary school
:sigh:
I would agree if it was only the first quote, but the second one is seriously lacking truthfacts.
Might have to do with their display settings. The demo looked really jaggy for me, so I looked into fixes and changed a bunch of my tv picture settings. Now playing the full game edges are mostly clean (except for some reason during the limited animation cutscenes).
spookyfish
Gold Member
Huh. In another thread I was told Bayonetta 2's visuals were sub-par.
I think the visuals are fantastic.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
My point is that skyrim or battlefield on ps3 runs like ass. (The words in your mouth was more toward the other hyperbolic comments)
Bayonetta doesn't run at 60fps, which sucks, and the framerate "fluctuates", but because its above 30fps it's still pretty responsive to your inputs.
So it runs fine, and sometimes it runs good, but it never runs like ass like the 2 previous games mentioned.
It just doesnt run perfectly like we all want, but lets not go overboard and say the game is unplayable, or runs like shit, when compared to other games ...it runs perfectly "fine".
that1dude24
Member
For new page, since link was broken:
one of these games is fun to play and look at, however
I disagree. Bayonetta 1 and 2's art style has all the subtlety of a 12 year old who just started drawing anime. The designs are laughably overdone, the color palette is a muddled mess and the action is a clusterfuck of things they seemingly throw at random on the screen.
Looks like someone took a piece of purple shit and smeared it on your TV
Stop talking shit.
Looks like someone took a piece of purple shit and smeared it on your TV
have you actually played this game or are you just trolling based on some miiverse screenshots?
Sounds cool to me. I like arcade style visuals.
Are you serious? I strongly disagree with this!
Great, not at all aggressive way to illustrate your opinion and not get quoted because you're making it all so credible.
Think again. Even normal size enemies push the fps down, have you seen the digital foundry video? I am sick of linking that over and over and no one bothering to actually watch it.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
GAF truly is a world of hyperbole.
ninjablade
Banned
trolling about what? Every thing he said we're facts.
There is no hyperbole anywhere in my post.
Raonak
Banned
The problem isn't individual enemies. It's once you have multiple enemies, they start blending together due to the way the enemies are designed.
They have lots of lines and details plus share a generally limited colour pallete (white+gold, sometimes with a bit of red or blue).
That + Jaggies + weapon effects + low health screen filter + enemies going on fire = really frustrating to play on infinite climax mode.
Booker Dewitt
Member
You should probably reevaluate your dietary habits if that's what your shit looks like.
Then it's a matter of different standards. The genre has gone backwards in performance since dmc and ninja gaiden. I think it runs like shit. I'm fine with it since it's the only way to play the game. Compared to the other games I play, it runs like ass.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Thing about games and frame rates, it doesn't matter to people when they are having fun playing it.
Definitely sucks they couldn't keep it stable (or reach) during battles, but staying above 30fps still made it smooth as butter to control and a blast to play.
But yeah Bayonetta2 doesnt stay at 60 fps. It's a negative. Bayonetta doesn't have AA, another negative. But that doesn't take away form the fact that the game looks good in motion AND under your control.
Really hope that's not the case, people will be missing out on a GOTY contender
Neon_Icarus
Member
It is gorgeous isn't it?
Too bad I can't enjoy it because 720p and imperfect framerate..
Too bad I can't enjoy it because 720p and imperfect framerate..
I haven't watched it, I'm too busy playing the game.
FPS dips somewhat during combat sometimes, but it's hardly impeding to the gameplay for me and it appears very short-lived overall.
This game has more going on-onscreen than most anything else on Wii U. I consider the framerate stable considering how many console games (I'm looking at you, Assassin's Creed) dip below 20 fps just by turning the player in another direction.
Don't get me wrong, I love 60 fps, but I'm really glad I'm not this picky, because it would make my hobby really frustrating. I wouldn't be able to enjoy anything but PC games at max settings.
Well I specifically pointed it out as purple due to it being different from the normal brown, but I guess reading comprehension is of no use when you are reaching this hard for a corny ass burn, right?
pinkurocket
Member
Threads like this, man. I can understand the criticisms from a technical standpoint. I'd love to see the graphics in full HD with proper AA, it would look absolutely stunning. In screenshots. As for what I've seen of Bayo2 it looks gorgeous in motion and I for one am living for the colors and all of the over-the-top goodness and creativity that is dripping of my screen with every footage I see.
Bashing on the art-style however is just rude and unnecessary. If it's not your style, then that's okay. But we don't often get a game with this unique of a look and it should be praised regardless. If you can't see the creativity in the design and inspiration, then I don't know what to say.
I also wonder if Ninjablade types 'bayonetta' in the forum search every day just to leave a negative comment in every thread possible.
Bashing on the art-style however is just rude and unnecessary. If it's not your style, then that's okay. But we don't often get a game with this unique of a look and it should be praised regardless. If you can't see the creativity in the design and inspiration, then I don't know what to say.
I also wonder if Ninjablade types 'bayonetta' in the forum search every day just to leave a negative comment in every thread possible.
Yeah, games are more than just numbers, wish people would realize this
threelights
Member
As far as I've seen it looks good because of art direction rather than technical achievement.
Yup, I saw that too. I personally don't mind as 30 is fine for me, and even though the framerate was all over the place, it was almost always above 30.
But I'll disagree with people saying the game has 60FPS, there's points where just walking around would drop the framerate.
Yup, I saw that too. I personally don't mind as 30 is fine for me, and even though the framerate was all over the place, it was almost always above 30.
But I'll disagree with people saying the game has 60FPS, there's points where just walking around would drop the framerate.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Yeah.. I can't say it has that wow factor in its set pieces like God of War 3 and Ascension does.
I know P* doesn't have that sort of budget, but God of War 3 really does impress still to this day.
Dat Kronos and Poseidon fight.
Bayonetta is visually appealing in its own right. But technically, you can tell its not quite up there with the big dogs of this generation.
I know P* doesn't have that sort of budget, but God of War 3 really does impress still to this day.
Dat Kronos and Poseidon fight.
Bayonetta is visually appealing in its own right. But technically, you can tell its not quite up there with the big dogs of this generation.
Did you stop reading there?
FlashbladeGAF
Member
At least now your adding some context, but I would still say your over exaggerating.
Ninja Gaiden runs awesome
Bayonetta 2-U runs fine
Bayonetta on PS3 runs like ass.
I read the whole thing but I don't see how anyone can consider the jaggies severe. I have the game paused on my 40" 1080p TV right now and while they're there--severe? Really?
In my case, I actually started caring about resolution since Dolphin happened.
480p for the scales some Wii games had was criminal, seriously, now I almost can't go back and play them at their OG resolution now that I can play them in HD.
720p is very, very tolerable though. I don't even mind if there will never be emulators for PS360/Wii U, because they look great by default.
Don't get me wrong though, I love me some 1080p goodness, and I can't express how happy I will be for a stable emulator to come out, very far from this day, but if it's the only way we can enjoy it, well, so be it.
Windom Earle
Banned
Can't enjoy it with that framerate.
At least now your adding some context, but I would still say your over exaggerating.
Ninja Gaiden runs awesome
Bayonetta 2-U runs fine
Bayonetta on PS3 runs like ass.
That would be unplayable for me. ;p
But anyway, I'm going to go play some more. Game is definitely amazing. Looking forward to higher difficulties.
And I 100% agree with both of you, a good, fun game can have flaws, from fps to resolution and "oh it must be 60fps or else its not worth anything" is a flawed argument. My gripe is the belief that it's 60fps stable that, somehow, a lot of people think and spout off.Simply put, someone at some point said it was 60fps no drops, it's been proven wrong with facts and yet people don't want to admit it or don't take the time to see for themselves.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
I only had a PS3 at the time and I'm a Kamiya fan so I made it work LOL
Fun going thru it again on the Wii-U
I wish I knew whether or not this was sarcasm.
Neon_Icarus
Member
I was kidding. I thought my avatar would give it away. And yeah, Bayonetta 2 is probably my GOTY.
To me, a game's 'looks' are comprised of 75% art direction and and 25% technical execution. Obviously if the technical execution is atrocious (say the framerate of the
original Perfect Dark), no amount of excellent art is going to help, but needless to say, 720p and 46-60fps are not quite 'atrocious' yet.
It's funny that even with people who seem to agree with me, the graphics discussion always has to revolve around the technical aspects.
Oh well, maybe I'll change my mind after I get a PS4, and whenever I see a game, the only thing I'll perceive are a list of specs and special effects and looking at Bayonetta 2 will make me violently vomit. As with some people here, it seems.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Yeah, but that is unrelated to the discussion.
I've owned a 120hz monitor for a long time because I am that picky and bayonetta 2's framerate is fine. Much more stable than say, W101.
Raonak
Banned
Jaggies are gonna be a problem with any game without any AA.
Plus part of the problem is that many next-gen games have got great IQ. so jumping back to a 720p game without AA is gonna be a tough transition for some.