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Bayonetta looking different accross platforms during demo event.
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Fimbulvetr
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Alcoholikaust said:
Capcom owns the rights to it.
stuburns said:
Sounds like controller preference. <shrugs> He didn't back down from his impressions of the PS3 version, just added that he was sold on the game itself. He tried out both versions and likes the DS3 for it. I don't see how you got what you got out of it or why that makes him an idiot. He just wanted to clarify he thought the game was quality. This wasn't in the original report.
Because I think it's stupid to want a game that is worse because you prefer the controller, maybe if it's a little worse, but a game which has inconsistent framerate described as 'all over the place' and muddy visuals.Kintaro said:
Anyway, I didn't say he was an idiot. I said he was exaggerating first time around.
Fimbulvetr
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Daante said:
The first comment is the greatest. :lol
badcrumble
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wow looks like someones a little butthurt about the standards of discourseneojubei said:
Fimbulvetr
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neojubei said:
It's the best insult ever, that's what.
Just another gaming buzzword that people don't know how to use properly.
badcrumble
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What's the 'proper' usage of it? Don't be so butthurt, Mr. Butthurt.Fimbulvetr said:
stuburns said:
Short memory?
stuburns said:
It was not blown out of proportion. He didn't back down from his earlier statements at all or clarify them further. He added that he thought the game was still fun and a blast in spite of them.
Controller preference is important to people. Look at people who believe the 360 controller is better for shooters. I don't see the difference, but they do.
How is that a short memory? I stated a hypothetical explanation in one sentence, then denied that same suggestion in the second. Maybe that wasn't so clear, or your reading isn't so good. Either way, I apologize.Kintaro said:
As for the controller, the initial description seemed to imply it was a serious framerate issue, that being the case it's bound to hamper gameplay, and if someone is willing to play a game that is playing worse because they prefer the controller, then I would consider that stupid. But if they just exaggerated for web site hits, then fair enough.
badcrumble
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So now that sp0rsk has said two slightly conflicting things are we going to enter the wishful thinking stage of the console war in this thread where everyone decides that one statement is more important than the other? I'm hoping he comes back and actually clarifies some more about precisely how bad/noticeable the PS3 issues were, but it'll probably be another 10 pages until that point. Yawn.
Fimbulvetr
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badcrumble said:
Well somebody better say something confrontational or this will be the longest 10 pages ever. :|
stuburns said:
There was no exaggeration. I never said the PS3 version sucks either. I said they were in different states of development. That's the truth.
People just took the rest of the article and ran with it. Partly my fault, partly y'all's fault, but in the end the game is fucking awesome no matter what the system is.
For me its gameplay uber alles.
badcrumble
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Do you think that the PS3 version will hit 60fps by release? That strikes me as being incredibly crucial to the gameplay - frames are gonna matter in a tight combat game like this.sprsk said:
onken
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These "differences" often get blown out of proportion but it will be disappointing if the PS3 version is substantially worse at this point in the generation.
e~ for what it's worth I absolutely hate the main character (looks like some sort of weirdo secretary fetish got wrong) so won't be buying it either way!
e~ for what it's worth I absolutely hate the main character (looks like some sort of weirdo secretary fetish got wrong) so won't be buying it either way!
badcrumble
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I think anxiety is justified because this was the first time the PS3 demo was shown - if the same build had been shown months earlier I don't think there would be cause for alarm.sprsk said:
Fimbulvetr
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stuburns said:
Final Fantasy XIII demo. Build from 2007(it was 2007 right?).
Though this close to release, being nervous about any flaws is understandable.
But yeah, this is one of those "we'll see when we actually play it"(or when the JP version is released) things. Hope they release a good demo soon.
sprsk said:
Seems rather silly to show an old ass build, that they have never shown before this event when the game is so close to release and the 360 builds have been great prior to it. On top of the director laughing about that version when asked about it.
That's all I'm saying. You would think developers and publishers would understand this by now.
True, and MGS4's demo was finished about a week before TGS, in fact, they were working on it over the days of the event.Fimbulvetr said:
There's really no way to know how old the code was. But I'll be surprised if the demo had framerate issues, that the game in two months won't have.
Clear
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Honest truth here:
Please do not hang too much on demo builds shown at press events, especially if the title in question is near the end of development as there's no telling what state the code is in.
Near the end of a project you can end up swamped fixing bugs and making changes, and as a result being asked to display a build that is representative of the final product -especially in regards to performance- can be an issue.
Recently the studio I work for had to provide a build to SEGA for a press junket; thanks to a variety of issues being in the process of being fixed in order to meet Alpha, the version shown was running at half the frame-rate it should have been.
Obviously noone was happy about this, but given the little time we had to provide this playable demo build it was the best that could be done. The key thing is that the frame-rate issue was specific to that build, and was not representative of the final product.
Now this title isn't on PS3/360 and isn't under the sort of scrutiny that Bayonetta is from the fan community, so (as far as I'm aware) its passed without comment. But its still a good example of how variable the quality can be even at the very end of a development cycle.
Please do not hang too much on demo builds shown at press events, especially if the title in question is near the end of development as there's no telling what state the code is in.
Near the end of a project you can end up swamped fixing bugs and making changes, and as a result being asked to display a build that is representative of the final product -especially in regards to performance- can be an issue.
Recently the studio I work for had to provide a build to SEGA for a press junket; thanks to a variety of issues being in the process of being fixed in order to meet Alpha, the version shown was running at half the frame-rate it should have been.
Obviously noone was happy about this, but given the little time we had to provide this playable demo build it was the best that could be done. The key thing is that the frame-rate issue was specific to that build, and was not representative of the final product.
Now this title isn't on PS3/360 and isn't under the sort of scrutiny that Bayonetta is from the fan community, so (as far as I'm aware) its passed without comment. But its still a good example of how variable the quality can be even at the very end of a development cycle.
Haha.Chrange said:Sounds like someone got slapped over potentially lost ad revenue!
"This game sucks on PS3!" *next day* "Oh, I mean I'm going to buy the PS3 version!"
You scallywag! :lol
Seriously, it's easier to play at half the frame rate, and the blurriness kind of adds to the look IMO.
All of this points out one key truth. Denis Dyack was right about bad builds for press events.. :lol It simply makes no sense from a developer point of view or from a publisher point of view.
Journaos go to the events and simply report on what they see and the community reacts. Then all the publisher or dev can do is truly to convince people that "it'll be fine". It's just a silly ass way of doing things.
Journaos go to the events and simply report on what they see and the community reacts. Then all the publisher or dev can do is truly to convince people that "it'll be fine". It's just a silly ass way of doing things.
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3176188
Matt Leone's impressions of the PS3 build, a lot more positive than earlier comments.
He mentioned it looking slightly less vibrant, which could just be the default output of the PS3 which has less contrast etc.
Matt Leone's impressions of the PS3 build, a lot more positive than earlier comments.
He mentioned it looking slightly less vibrant, which could just be the default output of the PS3 which has less contrast etc.
Fimbulvetr
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HAAAAAAAH!
I was right, you faithless curs can just go back to hating on the artstyle. :lol
I was right, you faithless curs can just go back to hating on the artstyle. :lol
Speedymanic
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Joystiq hands on with the PS3 version
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/27/tgs-2009-hands-on-bayonetta-ps3/
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/27/tgs-2009-hands-on-bayonetta-ps3/
abstract alien
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oh boy...
abstract alien
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I just hope its locked. The two main aspects I enjoy as far as visuals go(dealing with standard graphics), vivid colors and fluidity, and both are being questioned.deepbrown said:
Sad day for me :^(
intheinbetween
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Square Triangle
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Each Gamestop Manager received demo codes on XBL for Bayonetta yesterday. Downloaded mine, holy crap I want this. This is seriously Devil May Cry x10, really hope this does well in the states.
Arpharmd B
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stuburns said:
If you have a choice, go 360. If you don't have a choice, it's still a great game.
stuburns said:
It is stupid. Pulling the controller card, especially when the version is dog shit comparitively speaking, means he either didn't spend enough time with the 360 version, and from the article that seems to be the case. They passively mention playing each of teh demo.
If you had both consoles, and you really were that crazy about the dual shock, get a damn converter or something. Why subject yourself to the inferior product if you don't have to? The framerate is reminiscent of SOTN Saturn vs. SOTN PS1. It's that big.
Trust me as someone who has played both. This isn't a RE5 or MW2 difference where it's more or less negligable. There is a really big difference here not just in visuals but in how the game plays.