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BBC: "Skunk (Cannabis) caused my son to cut off his penis"
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It's condescending to warn Americans of the Uk's "super weed" when that's the norm in places with legal or medical marijuana.
it's massively uninformed and not representative of people in the uk who know a bit about what they're talking about.
If by uninformed, you mean the people in this thread acting like "skunk" weed is some type of bogeyman then I agree, otherwise I don't see your point.
Chmpocalypse
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No, it did not.
That's exactly what I mean, read my previous posts in this thread.
We agree then. Not sure why you took offense to Akira''s post though. It's the equivalent of an American warning a Columbia of high grade cocaine. Of course the Columbian will laugh in that scenario.
Well, firstly I don't think that's an equivalent comparison. I think it's fairly agreed upon worldwide that Colombia is "the" place when it comes to cocaine.
I don't get offended from posts online but like I said previously, people with attitudes like his seem to take the attitude that, with medical states now existing, the US is now the epicentre of cannabis knowledge and experience and I think that's silly to believe. Cannabis and it's extracts don't require specific weather and altitude conditions and don't need to be produced en masse like cocaine, and countries like Holland and Canada have a proven history in cultivating high quality weed.
What I thought was ridiculous about his post wasn't that he laughed like the Colombian in your example, but the statement that "lol Brits aren't allowed to talk to Americans about cannabis. like, at all" - it's a smug generalisation.
Herr Schwarz
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You can't get weed in the UK? I guess you don't have a guy etc.
Weed in UK is super strong - we don't have fancy pancy menu system where we go up to a dealer and demand what kind of weed you want. You get what you're given, thankfully it's generally really heady and gets you off your tits.
A lot of people saying that it hits you too hard, that'll be because you need to go through that first wave then continue smoking until you get that nice fuzzy floaty feeling.
Summer Haze
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Have you asked around people you know? Neighbors? There's gotta be someone who knows someone who smokes/deals that could hook you up.
Summer Haze
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Every I know does, but I don't. Fuck that. I'd rather just roll skinnier, shorter joints with nothing but bud in them.
Oops, DP, my bad.
Karsticles
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Here in Colorado there are hardly any penises left.
West Coast USA is 'the place' when it comes to cannabis.
Girl Scout Cookies, Grand Daddy Purps, OG Kush, etc. all the hot stuff comes from the US and has for a decade.
Europe/Amsterdam have been behind us since the 1990s.
Yes, it is.
It's legal to get 'souvenir' cannabis seeds in the UK. (People here order them from Attitude seed bank there)
You could get autoflower/feminized seeds and just throw them out in a rural area or grow them on a balcony or in a closet under an LED bulb. Varieties like northern lights have less smell than others
buttery fistful
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I went there for a vacation a couple weeks ago, tossed my penis right off the Royal Gorge bridge
UpDownLeftRight
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By the way arent the BBC obligated by law to not bullshit like this. Because I'm already having to pay for a t.v. licence for channels I don't watch for nothing. If they're beginning to break their own obligation of no bullshit by extension then wouldn't that technically be illegal?
Or is their website exempt from the same rules as their channel?
Or is their website exempt from the same rules as their channel?
America has been "the place" for weed since forever. Its been apart of our pop culture for far longer than it has most places in the world, even while still mostly illegal. High grade weed, aka Skunk has had many different names in America for ages now. Dro, Chronic, stick-icky, etc it goes on for days.
As someone who has lived in Europe for 6 years recently, the vast majority of the weed there is still mid grade. You can't even get bud consistently in a lot of places, only stuff like hash. Its not totally inconceivable that some there would get skunk and think its something new or exciting.
Overall people, no matter where they're at should get off their high horses about the stuff.
See, you get people from Holland and Canada who'll say the same thing, so again for the sake of the comparison made with Colombia I don't think it's that's a widely agreed upon fact outside of with Americans I know. I think it could be argued that the "hot stuff" is in demand because it's referenced in American culture.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to diminish the achievements of American growers, the nicest smoke I ever had was NY diesel which is a hawaiian cross. As for "we have the best!" I generally think patriotism is at play, which I dislike in all its forms. There are good growers and people convinced they have the best all over the world.
I believe I already addressed the beginning of your post based on inner-g's. Trust me I'm well aware that in places including here in the UK in general a lot of the weed is crap, and the stuff that passes as hash is often atrocious. When people post saying "UK weed is strong" I cringe because I've had awful bush weed and soap bar. Again, it's not always the case though and it comes down to who you know and where you live. Places like Holland have far higher consistent quality.
Agree completely.
Truly a utopia.
Shadowhelper
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You can get as good as cannabis as possible over the dark net, in the UK. But, over the dark net, the stuff from Spain and France is on average far far far superior. And the street. UK requires a bit of poking around. Really great stuff in Spain. Of course, once we leave the EU, it'll be probably be impossible to order illegal stuff from the EU, at the moment, it's really only safe ordering domestically. Yeah, like I said, personally, I wouldn't order from the EU, or even domestic since I don't need to. But if I did, you can get legit stuff, no doubt at all. It just requires looking around and research, as people don't like to give negative reviews on the darknet, but if you understand that, you can read between the lines, and reddit and the forums will tell you who is legit. I am pretty sure ordering it domestic is probably safer than just getting it from a dealer.
UK, it's just a lot more difficult, to find it. You just have to know the right person. The growing culture in the UK is also pretty bad. It's all hydroponics, and it's generally never flushed more than a week. That's the real issue, and why it tends to be of such poor quality. But you can find quality stuff, it can just be a bit of hassle.
If it wasn't illegal, I'd just grow my own. But I find that too risky. As personal amounts, you're not really gonna get in trouble. The quality and prices of the latest LED lights is become good enough that growing it on your own doesn't require as much space, air ventilation, or electricity and doesn't produce much heat at all. Full spectrum light mimicking the sun very well, too.
UK, it's just a lot more difficult, to find it. You just have to know the right person. The growing culture in the UK is also pretty bad. It's all hydroponics, and it's generally never flushed more than a week. That's the real issue, and why it tends to be of such poor quality. But you can find quality stuff, it can just be a bit of hassle.
If it wasn't illegal, I'd just grow my own. But I find that too risky. As personal amounts, you're not really gonna get in trouble. The quality and prices of the latest LED lights is become good enough that growing it on your own doesn't require as much space, air ventilation, or electricity and doesn't produce much heat at all. Full spectrum light mimicking the sun very well, too.
Chmpocalypse
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Your science-based evidence is very appreciated. Thank you for continuing to provide facts to countermand those who don't know what they're talking about.
Snowybreak
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Well, the development of current cannabis strains started taking hold in the late 60s, early 70s, about the same time as the acid wave. Dealers were growing real tired with the shit that was being sent up through Mexico, so they started collecting seeds and experimenting with various growth methods.
The result is what we have today, a diverse, broad-spectrum supply of powerful weed. Most old heads I talk to (usually deadheads) even say that the shit you get today is magnitudes more powerful than what you could get 20-30 years ago.
Various growers from around the world have contributed to this growth, but the origin point of this wave does start in the US. You could call it patriotism, but I'd call it a drive to get as high as fuck, because it's hard to live in the US un-intoxicated.
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Fenderputty
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wat?
What is abnormal weed? What's potent? Do you think only the UK has stronk herb?
The dispensary I pick up from has THC and CBD % listed for their top strains. It's amazing how much misinformation is still out there regarding weed
brokenbeans
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That's crazy.
I 100% definitely agree that lots of potent weed was developed in the US and is widely available there.
I'm also willing to accept that the wave of real targeted cultivation began in the US too. But the statement about growers around the world merely contributing is where I take exception - this makes it sound like any other country is just making slight contributions to the monolith. in reality there are growers around the world developing their own strains. jack herer was american but iirc the famous jack herer strain was created by sensi in holland.
again, there are good growers and people putting in great work all around the world. everyone is convinced "no no, but seriously, in my country i know a guy who has the best" - i have spoken to estonians and greeks who insist the same thing.
nothing i said was intended to be an attack on the capabilities of american growing culture and their skillset. it is undeniable. it seems i have stirred a beast by stating that some people do not consider america to be the de facto hub of all cannabis knowledge and cultivation skills, but i still stand by that. my original point being that i don't think america is globally recognised as being synonymous with weed the same way colombia is with cocaine. not yet anyway.
i feel like i've made the points i want to make, so in advance of people missing some of my posts and jumping on points i've made in previous ones, i'm going to bow out now.
one last thing i'd like to stress again: not all people from the uk are under the bizarre impression that there is some miracle bogeyman strain of skunk which is somehow different from weed and has much higher incidences of causing psychotic episodes.
considering people do concentrates at ungodly levels of thc on the reg here, i would be surprised if any organic cannabis material was capable of causing psychosis on any normal person. unless we are talking about some chemistry lab whacked out synthetic stuff that has a bunch of other factors making it dangerous
What the hell are all you Brits talking about skunk like it's some kind of dangerous weed. Go into a store in Colorado and buy shit that's probably significantly stronger than this "skunk" you speak of. Just don't rip a whole fucking blunt of it. Even if you did you wouldn't have a mental breakdown and cut off your own dick. You'd just be high as fuck for a few hours. Afaik it's physically impossible to overdose on weed or develop a physical dependency on it. It's less harmful than my coffee addiction.
And where is the evidence of this skunk causing psychotic episodes?
Anecdotal stories of crazy people blaming the weed for their problems don't count. Going to need to see some actual medical studies.
I don't buy any of this unless we are talking about weed that's laced with pcp.
And where is the evidence of this skunk causing psychotic episodes?
Anecdotal stories of crazy people blaming the weed for their problems don't count. Going to need to see some actual medical studies.
I don't buy any of this unless we are talking about weed that's laced with pcp.
Reverend Funk
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This is a known side effect of weed but its not really an issue cause it only happens once, after that its smooth sailing
Could it be the strains? Maybe the typical weed you get is sativa where as the hash is indica.
This was my first thought. I'm in Colorado and had gone like...3 years without touching weed? I bought some of the strongest stuff available (everything here is tested and labeled) when it was legalized and smoked it like I smoked shitty stuff when I had a tolerance. It was a bad idea, but oddly enough, nothing even remotely close to psychosis, I was just stuck in one spot for a few hours. I've never heard of a reaction anywhere approaching this. It does seem like this episode could've happened if there was something else in there (pcp, maybe bath salts?)
notworksafe
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good to know that gaf is backwards enough to still believe in reefer madness being real lol
Snowybreak
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Oh no, I'm not trying to depreciate the value of the contributions of international growers at all, if anything the globalization of it has codified the culture, bringing what was once a shameful thing hidden behind a facade to a full-fledged mainstream identity.
The only real reason people would say America has become weed central of the world is because we've started growing so much ourselves. Reliance on dangerous gangs and cartels for transport and distribution has drastically lessened over the years, with individuals now sourcing their shit. In the states, if you get weed, there is a good chance it was grown in one of the legal states, or grown in your county. The days of gun-toting cartels are dying, individual industry is stepping in and taking hold.
That is why we have such fervor over here about our shit. We've shifted the paradigm. Not just American growers, but international growers and users. The war on drugs is dying, a last gasp of a culture best left to rot. We are on the verge of something new, something that hasn't been seen in hundreds of years: a global, mainstream drug culture.
I don't have one, but I totally should.
Vegetable Lasagna
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Happens all of the time and the liberal media doesn't want you to know. So you don't know. Totally normal behavior.
But for reals... it had to be laced with something else. Because this is not a thing.
But for reals... it had to be laced with something else. Because this is not a thing.
Sounds like a Greek myth.
There's a lot more to the effects of weed than raw THC/CBD numbers.
Everything from genetics to growing method to lighting to curing/drying to storage can have an effect on cannabinoids. Whole-plant cannabis often has different effects than hash/wax/rosin/oil/extracts. There are many different cannabinoids like CBN and THCv along with terpenes like pinene, myrcene, linalool and many more which have complex interactions between the cannabinoids and change the effects. They can even feel different to two different people.
When extracts are made, they're many times processed with water, chemical solvents or heat, all of which change the profile of cannabinoids or terpenes. Even dry sift feels different than consuming whole-plant cannabis.
TL;DR, it's complicated. The whole Indica/Sativa thing is way over-generalized too. There are energizing indicas and couchlocky sativas. Depends on the user themselves and how the cannabis was produced.
More like dank weed am I rite?
Extra Sauce
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Not looking forward to the Great Canadian Penis Massacre of 2018.
Mr. Phellps
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Sounds like an episode of Game of Thrones.
Yeah . . . No.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2931552/
People will wave away any evidence that doesn't support their viewpoint. Can't have anything that doesn't support the predetermined conclusion that cannabis is always wonderful can we!
Legalise and promote weed if you want to assist the billion dollar dope lobby but don't act surprised when it wreaks terrible damage on our children. Just as alcohol has
People will wave away any evidence that doesn't support their viewpoint. Can't have anything that doesn't support the predetermined conclusion that cannabis is always wonderful can we!
Legalise and promote weed if you want to assist the billion dollar dope lobby but don't act surprised when it wreaks terrible damage on our children. Just as alcohol has
chromatic9
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No one is doubting US but the thing is Holland is literally a short ferry ride (it's right next door) or an hour drive through the channel tunnel for UK. There's so many different strains and varieties for decades or laced with this and that in the UK.
What can be a hindrance is perhaps the nature of the UK being a small populated island with heavy policing within and tight borders which makes it a bit random what you get. Sadly someone wanting regular skunk weed can end up buying some shit laced with god knows what. Australia is like the US, you have sparse large regions where no one really bothers you and the weed is cheap and abundant so no need to use tobacco with it and can be transported all over the country.
Mixing with tobacco is highly addictive. People will smoke joints like smoking 10-20 cigarettes a day and really become a waste of space. Use a vaporizer with weed on its own and suddenly that constant craving for a joint just goes and you can take it or leave it.
What can be a hindrance is perhaps the nature of the UK being a small populated island with heavy policing within and tight borders which makes it a bit random what you get. Sadly someone wanting regular skunk weed can end up buying some shit laced with god knows what. Australia is like the US, you have sparse large regions where no one really bothers you and the weed is cheap and abundant so no need to use tobacco with it and can be transported all over the country.
Mixing with tobacco is highly addictive. People will smoke joints like smoking 10-20 cigarettes a day and really become a waste of space. Use a vaporizer with weed on its own and suddenly that constant craving for a joint just goes and you can take it or leave it.
Shadowhelper
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Actually it is legal to own seeds in the UK. That's why you have so many amazing seed banks in the UK. They're pretty much the best. The law due to how it's worded allows for seeds.
Someone said just go to holland. I don't know about the whole country, but Amsterdam isn't that great at all. Cannabis isn't laced in the UK. That's a myth.
Completely unflushed weed, meaning if you don't give hydroponic weed any period of time where you only feed it water before harvesting it, will seem like it is laced, but its not, just impatient or completely inexperienced growers. It won't be very smokable. It will get hard and harsh when you smoke it, not light properly, sparkle and crackle when lit, and taste nasty.
That's the beginning state of most weed, before its been fed water. There's absolutely no reason for them to lace the weed. Why would they ruin their own product for no reason? Higher quality products command higher prices. But turnaround is also an issue. Almost everyone is going to flush for at least around a week, but sometimes the growers just pluck the flowers even earlier than that. Needs far more than a week. This is the problem in Amsterdam. They take a lot of short cuts, because they know they can get away with it. Gotta find the right places. Quality of Barcelona cannabis clubs so much higher than the ones in Amsterdam.
Someone said just go to holland. I don't know about the whole country, but Amsterdam isn't that great at all. Cannabis isn't laced in the UK. That's a myth.
Completely unflushed weed, meaning if you don't give hydroponic weed any period of time where you only feed it water before harvesting it, will seem like it is laced, but its not, just impatient or completely inexperienced growers. It won't be very smokable. It will get hard and harsh when you smoke it, not light properly, sparkle and crackle when lit, and taste nasty.
That's the beginning state of most weed, before its been fed water. There's absolutely no reason for them to lace the weed. Why would they ruin their own product for no reason? Higher quality products command higher prices. But turnaround is also an issue. Almost everyone is going to flush for at least around a week, but sometimes the growers just pluck the flowers even earlier than that. Needs far more than a week. This is the problem in Amsterdam. They take a lot of short cuts, because they know they can get away with it. Gotta find the right places. Quality of Barcelona cannabis clubs so much higher than the ones in Amsterdam.