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Beast's Fury, 2D fighter on Kickstarter (Trigger Warning: Furries)
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jediyoshi
Member
No dice! Anything past what's on a Draenei and you've lost me.
Dark Octave
Banned
Marilyn Monroe bird girl? Huh. I like her.
This Kickstarter is a money pit, development wise.
As for the art style, not all the characters mesh. The Shark and Croc are awesome (and the horse fits, I guess) but the rest are too cartoony, and have a lack of detail. I can certainly get what people are saying in the dA'ness of it.
Those in here just because of "ew furries" though: C'mon already. There is weird shit out there, but this is not that. Try to pay attention to what's actually there and not what's in your head.
As for the art style, not all the characters mesh. The Shark and Croc are awesome (and the horse fits, I guess) but the rest are too cartoony, and have a lack of detail. I can certainly get what people are saying in the dA'ness of it.
Those in here just because of "ew furries" though: C'mon already. There is weird shit out there, but this is not that. Try to pay attention to what's actually there and not what's in your head.
I prefer my anthropomorphic characters to not have huge tits thx
Tizoc
Member
Last I heard the developer had disappeared off the face of the internet for a long while.
Profound Sadness...
What's the latest ver. of Monster AC atm? I lost the install files of the last ver. that was online.
AtomskEater
Member
The fact that they already misjudged the funding is a big problem. Unless they've got people experienced at the money side of high quality hand-drawn animation on board, I'm not too sure they'll get it right this time. And it's still essentially funding a big demo.
Some of the animations are quit nice, and a few of the characters look interesting (not the bird lady though, no avian should have bazongas that big).
And in unconstructive comments: That lion(?) guy's victory animation looks like he just realized he took a shit in his pants and has to go handle that quickly.
Now I don't have to hide!
*opens HardBlush folder*
Some of the animations are quit nice, and a few of the characters look interesting (not the bird lady though, no avian should have bazongas that big).
And in unconstructive comments: That lion(?) guy's victory animation looks like he just realized he took a shit in his pants and has to go handle that quickly.
CHEEZMO™;114113581 said:
Now I don't have to hide!
*opens HardBlush folder*
Benslammin
Neo Member
The animation is great, but furries are just weird.
It would be more interesting if they were realistic looking like overgrowth or something, but it's always got to be this cartoon fursona shit.
It would be more interesting if they were realistic looking like overgrowth or something, but it's always got to be this cartoon fursona shit.
Tizoc
Member
Was gonna post something along these lines lol.
I find it funny though that there are those on GAF willing to buy Japanese games with with oversexualized teenage girls or cute scantly dressed girls, but shy away from this.
Personally if this ends up being a good fighter I'll give it a play.
Red Arremer
Member
I think the cost is not as cheap as you assume it to be. They said that they spent the majority of their $21000 on Vincent and partly on Don. They need an additional $45,000 in order to finish the two characters and get a demo out. They also note explicitly that this is because they need additional animators to work full time on the characters. That means close to $66,000 will have been spent on finishing two characters. Skullgirls cost $150,000 for one DLC character. That makes it seem cheap, right? It would, if the money for Skullgirls was only needed for the animators, like in Beast's Fury. What is the cost for that specifically?
According to them: $30,000: Animation and Clean-up Contracting
I think they are just bad at managing their money. And the results aren't looking good. I wouldn't compare Skullgirls to this mess at all. I don't think they are trying to scam, although while we are on the topic, yeah, some of the stuff they are doing does seem scammy. But I think it is just them being too hopeful rather than try to con people. For example:
Except...
Also:
Or from their IndieGoGo
They can't guarantee any of that. Because both of their initial goals are for demos and then they are going to go shopping for publishers. What if they can't find one? Are they going to continue working on this in their spare time, aiming for a Winter 2027 release?
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
NOPE. Ill pass. Get Furries and Ponies OUT OF MY FGC.
darkblade77
Member
I'm not comparing this to SG because the level of quality and organization is on the same level--it's not--but because the method of animation and how it's produced in the end is similar.
Also that Kotaku article is being overly modest, as was the Skullgirls IGG, in presenting the cost of making one character. Squigly, the character in that article, already had a notable portion of her animation work already completed, which is why they were able to present her at a lower projected cost for the breakdown.
But I generally agree with the rest of what you said. I don't think they have the intent to be shady about what they're offering--it's just not well-thought-through, and therefore a poor investment.
Deckard Cain
Banned
All the characters that look terrible do so in part to the fact they have human hair ontop on animal fur. Makes no sense, looks stupid. Biggest sin in anthropomophizing characters is adding completely unnecessary human traits like hair and overally human figures.
SteveWinwood
Member
Just make a business shark game. I'd buy it. I don't need his friends.
Ultimadrago
Member
Ah, I wasn't aware of Squigly's development. Even though I am not funding this game due to the reasons I brought up earlier, it would be a shame if that loan shark character isn't used. He is badass.
MrCunningham
Member
It's the spiritual sequel to Brutal: Paws of Fury we have all been hoping for... or something...
I have nothing against anthropomorphic characters in my games. That shark shows that it could be a fun little fighting game if realised correctly, no matter how the characters look like. I do not see the problem if it's a solid game with good visuals. However, I'm not so sure this game will ever be completed. That's my issue with this project, a lack of trust. My lack of trust, to be precise.
Also, those pandering (boob bird) stretch goals creep me out a bit. Not gonna lie, those are not exactly my cup of tea. I can deal, but still...
AcceptableGhost
Member
The only thing that approaches furry levels of creep in Disney movies is that one scene where Nahla laying down, getting ready for some Simba lovin'. And conker's not furry either. There's anthro characters... Then there's... Furry. The definition is kinda like how that one judge defined porn; I can't define it but I know it when I see it.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The only way to top this amount of faux internet disgust with a game concept is if someone announces a Nickelback RPG.
Ban Puncher
Member
Fursona 4 - Arena Ultimaximal
Best name Idea yet..... I am very big into anime but furries... there is something that just triggers a "NOPE" button in my brain.
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
Monster. The dude behind making it all work is going through some major shit right now. Once he gets right I hope he comes back to finish what he started on the new version. But the game itself has gone through hell and back with all the drama attached to it. Even with Ancient Cline which he's working on finishing.
The old version for OG Monster V1.11 is still out there if you can find it. And if not then playing DragonBlast is an option too.
Beast's Fury looks pretty cool. Here's hoping they get what they need.
I would fund that with a signed T-shirt of How you remind me as a reward tier
.Also these guys seem to have some money managing troubles.
Tizoc
Member
My homie Rex with dat Power Instinct/Matrimelee avatar.
Remind me what DragonBlast is please? I think I've heard about it before but I don't know anything about it.
That's how I always feel. The anime-esque extremely stylish hair is a fairly common trait of the deviantart style anthropomorphic animals. That and highly visible busts.
Not enough flash animation.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I've got no opinion way or the other on 'Furries'. I quite like some of those character designs, although the big beasts on the females disturb me a little. But it's budgetary matters which concern me most; it looks like they cannot budget for shit and given they're not even making a full game, what's the incentive for backing this again?
Funchameleon
Banned
those sure are some furry-ass furries
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Yep.
Gormless Noodle
Member
Holy fucking shit, that's amazing.
I know the animator actually since I did business with him before. I picked up on some of the conversations he had with the guy who's making/funding this. He's not a budgeting genius, no. I can appreciate the ambition, but putting your money into this is pretty risky all things considered.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
I really hate how GAF becomes a bunch of whiny babies whenever the subject of furries comes up. If some dude wants to draw a humanoid rabbit with giant tits and an even bigger dick then that's their prerogative. I thought America was a free country?
Guess Walt Disney and Hanna Barberra were bunch of sicko's too although to be fair most cartoon animals don't have the anime hair or sexualized design that furry is known for. I think really this is people's internal insecurities coming out on display. Don't like it, don't watch it.
I guess people should be ashamed for watching Thundercats and Rescue Rangers as well or hell TMNT but they don't. Conversely those designs are a different from what we call your typical furry which itself is not bad but Rule 34 in any form irks me
Guess Walt Disney and Hanna Barberra were bunch of sicko's too although to be fair most cartoon animals don't have the anime hair or sexualized design that furry is known for. I think really this is people's internal insecurities coming out on display. Don't like it, don't watch it.
I guess people should be ashamed for watching Thundercats and Rescue Rangers as well or hell TMNT but they don't. Conversely those designs are a different from what we call your typical furry which itself is not bad but Rule 34 in any form irks me
Lol who's the whiny baby exactly?
The Smoking Bun
Banned
I was exaggerating. If not in this thread then another we had some time back.
Also, generally breasts are put on females as a visual short hand for saying, "This is a girl"
Other tertiary sexual characteristics may also be included like eyelashes and wider hips
Do you even animate bro? However, I will agree that the design philosophy is more DOA style tantalization
quantumnerd
Member
There are a few legitimate reasons to dislike the furry fandom, but even the seediest parts of it aren't really worth scorn, they're just different or lower quality or whatever other inconsequential digs people want to make. I do find the fandom a little bit annoying on average, but I don't write anything associated to it off by default. I'm this way for a lot of stuff. I tend not to hate DA style illustration for instance, although I find a lot of it low quality anyways.
In this case, the reason I don't like this project isn't that I have something against furries, it's that I don't think the project is financially sound.
In this case, the reason I don't like this project isn't that I have something against furries, it's that I don't think the project is financially sound.
In my experience, furry even beats MLP and anime as the general punchingbag of the internet. So it's nobody in particular, but the crowd in general just "whining" about the existence of these fandoms.
Wolves Evolve
Member
So the animator moved from 24 frames a second (way too much) to 30 frames a second (way too fucking much) and never looked into the basics of why sprite-based fighters paired back to semi-continuous idles of 6-8 frames over 1.2 seconds, or lower.
I mean you can just look up the shambles that became the Street Fighter 2 HD port to see the folly of trying to up frames in sprites. The animator's discussion doesn't read like someone who, when faced with a crisis, asked anybody outside of the company or looked around. I mean, maybe they did, but it READS like they didn't.
I mean you can just look up the shambles that became the Street Fighter 2 HD port to see the folly of trying to up frames in sprites. The animator's discussion doesn't read like someone who, when faced with a crisis, asked anybody outside of the company or looked around. I mean, maybe they did, but it READS like they didn't.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
That Shark design is boss though, rest of the characters should have kept his style but you see the difference with the Fox in jeans chick who has been drawn in a rather generic deviantart style. A human with fur as opposed to how we (or say Disney) would imagine a typical humanoid cartoon fox, all lanky and short. Another issue is that these guys are writing checks their hands can't cash. Over-budget and under-talented
Gormless Noodle
Member
Not just furry really, you should check some of the threads on games with anime type art, this is the general response for the first 3-4 pages:
quantumnerd
Member
Yeah exactly, the only thing going for this project is that one shark design.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Not just furry really, you should check some of the threads on games with anime type art, this is the general response for the first 3-4 pages:
That's hilarious
ALL AMERICA MAKES IS CRAPPY SUPERHERO SHIT!! AAA!
WHY IS THERE NO GOOD MOVIE LIKE BLADE RUNNER ANYMORE?
NOBODY UNDERSTANDS!! WAA!
You never hear complaints like this though do you?
EDIT:
We generally use animals as visual shorthand for character traits. Cunning like a fox, proud like a lion, slimy as a weasel and the humanoid designs should reflect that.