crisdecuba
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I was more concerned / touched re: the fate of the staff than I ever felt about the beast haha
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Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Song ranking time:
10. Aria.
9. How Does a Moment Last Forever.
8. Days in the Sun.
7. Be Our Guest.
6. Evermore.
5. Beauty and the Beast.
4. Something There.
3. Gaston.
2. The Mob Song.
1. Belle / Belle Reprise.
10. Aria.
9. How Does a Moment Last Forever.
8. Days in the Sun.
7. Be Our Guest.
6. Evermore.
5. Beauty and the Beast.
4. Something There.
3. Gaston.
2. The Mob Song.
1. Belle / Belle Reprise.
I noticed that too. I didn't see it in IMAX though.
overall i thought it was very well done. The filming and direction were top notch. The first maybe 20 minutes were the weakest part, and it got increasingly better as the movie went on.
Icedburden
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After seeing La La Land the live action musical numbers, especially the new ones, feel ho-hum and uninspired. Mostly because of the direction.
Just saw it. The original is my favorite movie Disney has made so I was expecting to be really critical of this. Instead, I fucking loved it and have no idea why the reception is so mixed. It's a masterpiece in my eyes and can live alongside the animated movie just fine.
Super weird how Frozen and Zootopia blew up on GAF yet this movie only has a 10 page thread (I love those movies too).
Super weird how Frozen and Zootopia blew up on GAF yet this movie only has a 10 page thread (I love those movies too).
crisdecuba
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Sometimes affection for a film can make a good remake into a masterpiece. Sometimes it can make a good remake reviled. For me it was a good remake, but not the classic that the original was (due to not nailing Belle and Beast, and clunky editing).
crisdecuba
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Frozen offered new takes on the princess / true love saves all concept, while Zootopia offered an interesting take on race relations. The right movie to compare BatB to would be something like The Jungle Book remake.
FWIW beauty and the beast was fucking rad. It's nothing groundbreaking, but unless you're absolutely stuck on hand drawn animation it's an objectively better telling of the story imo
They addressed common critiques of the old one regularly and in a way that I felt like was satisfying:
I like these remakes as a way of updating these old stories. As opposed to other remakes, I feel like these remakes are adding to the in meaningful ways even if they're sometimes 1:1 remakes, the devil is in the details. I wouldn't tell someone to run out and see this film because it's groundbreaking, but I'd recommend trying it out next time you feel like seeing it. Also I loved the diversity with the cast
They addressed common critiques of the old one regularly and in a way that I felt like was satisfying:
who is chip's mom "FOR REAL," how did everyone forget about the beast, where is belle's mother, who is the cup's dad, the feeling that the furniture was wrongfully cursed, making beast's actions nurture+nature instead of belle "changing" him, I also liked that the furniture realized they don't need to set the two of them up. Also gaston was great
I like these remakes as a way of updating these old stories. As opposed to other remakes, I feel like these remakes are adding to the in meaningful ways even if they're sometimes 1:1 remakes, the devil is in the details. I wouldn't tell someone to run out and see this film because it's groundbreaking, but I'd recommend trying it out next time you feel like seeing it. Also I loved the diversity with the cast
VendettaRed07
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Basically my thoughts exactly. Almost everything about this movie just felt like it was moving through the motions, and X only happened because it happened in the cartoon.
I actually sort of laughed when beast was all like UGH Romeo and Juliette is just so BLEH.. because I was like " oh yeah well that's sort of exactly how I feel about what I'm watching.
Pagusas
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La La Land was a supreme disappointment to me, and Beauty and the Beast felt like a breath of fresh air.
Icedburden
Member
I respect your opinion, but your air might be laced with meth.
ryutaro's mama
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Fixed for me.
nintendoman58
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Really enjoyed this movie. I loved all the remastered songs.
Good lord, how can someone be so wrong.
I saw this yesterday and enjoyed it mostly. As someone said, Kevin Kline's performance as Muarice was not great, though Emma fared better than I thought she would. I also did notice the very blurry panning scenes, which annoyed me, and I thought the romance between Belle and Beast was a bit rushed, but the scenery and set design was really well done.
Loved the scene when she runs atop the hill and it pans around her.
A good, not great movie.
ZackieChan
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I noticed that too. Some of the iconic lines (during Gaston's bar song) were inaudible. Luckily I know all the words by heart.
Movie was ok. Didn't really move the needle for me either way.
I scored after the movie, though
psychotron
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We took our daughter in her Belle costume. She loved it and so did we. Really surprised by how enjoyable I found it.
Bornstellar
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Design and effects/animation on the Beast were super off. Distracted heavily from the film.
ZackieChan
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He looked surprisingly terrible. Like they were purposefully going for that effect of him being a big cartoon.
crisdecuba
Member
Terrible is too strong a word for this. If terrible is what you use to describe this, then you'll be lacking descriptors when some truly lacking comes around.
Finally watched it. It was alright. I don't really have high expectations for these Disney remakes. They'll never reach classics status like the original movies (they are not meant to anyway), but to watch them once or twice they are quite entertaining.
Apart from the pretty bad use of auto-tune in Belle's and Beast's songs, I really liked the musical numbers. Some very nice new ones were in there too.
Has anybody watched the Franco-German 2014 Beauty and the Beast production? It's no musical, but in every other regard the Disney version pales in comparison. An absolutely gorgeous film. The art direction is one of the most beautiful and lavish I've ever seen.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtvoFZH2yZ4
Apart from the pretty bad use of auto-tune in Belle's and Beast's songs, I really liked the musical numbers. Some very nice new ones were in there too.
Has anybody watched the Franco-German 2014 Beauty and the Beast production? It's no musical, but in every other regard the Disney version pales in comparison. An absolutely gorgeous film. The art direction is one of the most beautiful and lavish I've ever seen.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtvoFZH2yZ4
I felt Disney missed a real opportunity to modernize and update Belle's fate as a character. She is an independent thinker, intellectually curious, dreams of seeing the world and growing beyond her small town upbringing. Her fate should not be as a woman wedded to a prince in a castle with servants and shit. She should be exploring the world, learning and teaching, not locked up in a castle like some housewife from the 50s dancing in formal attire and attending galas. I actually find the whole romantic plot to be fairly problematic and kind of outdated.
They should have left the castle as a kind of monument to the town and Belle should have traveled to Paris with the Beast to begin her life.
The beasts new solo was very good. Really enjoyed it
They should have left the castle as a kind of monument to the town and Belle should have traveled to Paris with the Beast to begin her life.
The beasts new solo was very good. Really enjoyed it
Finally watched it. It was alright. I don't really have high expectations for these Disney remakes. They'll never reach classics status like the original movies (they are not meant to anyway), but to watch them once or twice they are quite entertaining.
Apart from the pretty bad use of auto-tune in Belle's and Beast's songs, I really liked the musical numbers. Some very nice new ones were in there too.
Has anybody watched the Franco-German 2014 Beauty and the Beast production? It's no musical, but in every other regard the Disney version pales in comparison. An absolutely gorgeous film. The art direction is one of the most beautiful and lavish I've ever seen.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtvoFZH2yZ4
How can I watch this with English subtitles?
ooh my literally came to post the exact same comment man. la la land ruined my chances of enjoying this movie. this was all made worse by then ending of the movie litrally being everything la la land was fighting against...
So finally saw this, and overall, I enjoyed much of this, through it stumbles in some aspects. Emma Watson was eh, but she had some good moments and the rest of the cast were generally great. The set pieces and costume designs were quite lovely, through the west wing being brightly lit bugged the crap out of me lol, least in earlier scenes.
I mostly indifferent regarding added on stuff with this version (did like some additons to the curse, like people forgetting that place), but I felt the movie might had gone a bit too long. There were also quite a few moments that had some wonky direction and editing, some of which frustrated me.
Still, happy to finally see and enjoy quite a bit of it. I LOVE the animated film and stage musical, so I was going to see this sooner or later.
I mostly indifferent regarding added on stuff with this version (did like some additons to the curse, like people forgetting that place), but I felt the movie might had gone a bit too long. There were also quite a few moments that had some wonky direction and editing, some of which frustrated me.
Still, happy to finally see and enjoy quite a bit of it. I LOVE the animated film and stage musical, so I was going to see this sooner or later.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
Reviews say otherwise.Finally watched it. It was alright. I don't really have high expectations for these Disney remakes. They'll never reach classics status like the original movies (they are not meant to anyway), but to watch them once or twice they are quite entertaining.
Apart from the pretty bad use of auto-tune in Belle's and Beast's songs, I really liked the musical numbers. Some very nice new ones were in there too.
Has anybody watched the Franco-German 2014 Beauty and the Beast production? It's no musical, but in every other regard the Disney version pales in comparison. An absolutely gorgeous film. The art direction is one of the most beautiful and lavish I've ever seen.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtvoFZH2yZ4
This looks more jank to me than the Disney live-action, but its probably because the gothic dark fantasy art is so tired at this point
The new be our guest beats every song in the old film imho
Karsticles
Member
I just saw the new Jungle Book, and I thought it was as awful as Through the Looking Glass. Is this more of the same ilk? All subtlety lost in favor of mass consumption?
crisdecuba
Member
I honestly can't understand anyone who would prefer the animated version of the jungle book over the live action remake. As a child I was bored by the animated version, and I rewatched it recently after seeing the new one and yup, still not very fun to watch. The new one on the other hand I thought was great.
JetBlackPanda
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I just got out of this and I actually really liked it. Emma Watson is beautiful. The movie was shot really well and overall I think they nailed a live action remake.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Really? I thought she was phenomenal.
Aztechnology
Member
Saw it. I liked it. Not nearly as much as the animated version though. The songs didn't really come close for me.
Watson did a solid job but I just never really feel the emotions from her. She usually just feels Ike she's going through the motions. As she gets older I think shell get a lot better though.
Watson did a solid job but I just never really feel the emotions from her. She usually just feels Ike she's going through the motions. As she gets older I think shell get a lot better though.
StrangeADT
Banned
I.
AM.
IN.
SHOCK!!!
I just got back, and HOLY MOLY! I had high hopes for this, and the movie managed to surpass my very huge expectations! I thought literally everything worked and that they couldn't have done a better job adapting this. I honestly can't find one negative thing about it. I couldn't wipe the grin off my face the whole way through! I THOUGHT IT WAS PERFECT! Just....wow! Movie magic!
10/10
And yes, I actually think it's even better than the animated movie - which I also love. (who doesn't?!)
Me too man, me too. I went in expecting bad things because there were so many negative impressions online. I was absolutely stunned and was grinning while watching it the whole time. This is yet another example of the internet echo chamber and rampant pessimism at play. I didn't say anything about the negativity to my wife because Beauty and the Beast is probably her 2nd favorite movie of all time and I didn't want to color her impressions. She was just as impressed as me.
Watched it last night in a full theater, jeez how much is this movie going to make, with my family and we all enjoyed it. I haven't watched the original in many years, save for popping the blu-ray in and watching Gaston's song a few times, so I didn't remember every detail and maybe that played a part in my overall enjoyment. Anyway, I thought it was a worthy live action remake. It will definitely make it into my 3D Blu-ray collection if they release one.
Megalosaro
Banned
I agree for some scenes but she did good. I realized she is perfect though.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Awesome! Glad to hear it.
I feel as if the general audience likes the movie quite a lot. When it comes to the critics, I'm just ignoring them to be honest. I mean it's currently at 71% on Rottten Tomatoes, which is solid, but I feel like it should be way higher.
I guess expectations were sky high. It is being compared to one of the most loved animated movies of all time after all. It's being judged pretty harshly.
A complaint I keep reading with the critics is that they don't know why the movie exists, which is just nonsense to me when we have another Spider Man movie coming out and like a billion superhero movies each year.
ZackieChan
Member
Well, one is basically an exact remake of an old cartoon but with real people, and the other(s) are new adventures featuring heroes people like, and there's really only like 10 or so superhero movies each year, out of 52 weeks? That's not that bad.
Alcotholic
Banned
There were aspects of this movie I love and aspects of the original I preferred. I would like to take parts of each and combine them into my ideal version. Overall, the story was better in this movie, the personality of the beast was better, and the new songs were great. That being said, I prefer the original Belle, most of the original versions of the songs, and the energy the animation gave was better. The auto tune in this movie is atrocious and I don't usually notice that sort of thing.
I liked the movie quite a bit in the end. I'll watch it again down the line.
I liked the movie quite a bit in the end. I'll watch it again down the line.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
I guess so.
It still doesn't change the fact that most super hero movies feel pretty much alike - especially Spider Man. I mean how many do we need?!
Skinny Pete
Banned
I saw it with my daughter and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Much better than the live action Cinderella which was a bore.
FINALLY got to see this! OMG! I really enjoyed it. They nailed a lot of what I loved about the cartoon. Emma Watson really works as Belle for any scene.... except... when she has to sing. Hahahahaha. It's unfortunate, but the autotune probably did help. >_<
But can we talk about Luke Evans? HOLY SHIT THE GUY IS LITERALLY GASTON. His performance was so good it carried the entire movie imo. He could sing, he could dance, he looked huge, and the costumes just fit so well. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. The entire mob scene at the end was literal chills.
The new songs were kinda whatever, I felt Days in the Sun could have worked better with a bit more effort, but I actually liked Evermore quite a bit. We don't have many moments with the Beast reflecting on stuff and this added to it in a good way.
I thought Something There was probably the best musical moment in the film, while the mob scene and song piece was the most cinematic by far. They didn't ruin the ballroom scene though, so there's that. Better CG than the original too!!!! (lololol)
I dunno how I feel about Dan Stevens as the Beast. Sometimes he was serviceable, sometimes he was really good with the reactions. Maybe the CG was just inconsistent? Not sure. I would have liked the production to have more physical sets though. I could tell a lot of it was virtual extensions and CG which stood out as less lavish and more painted on. In contrast the costumes all worked so well it was beautiful. Wish that extended to all the environments.
I might watch this again soon!
But can we talk about Luke Evans? HOLY SHIT THE GUY IS LITERALLY GASTON. His performance was so good it carried the entire movie imo. He could sing, he could dance, he looked huge, and the costumes just fit so well. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. The entire mob scene at the end was literal chills.
The new songs were kinda whatever, I felt Days in the Sun could have worked better with a bit more effort, but I actually liked Evermore quite a bit. We don't have many moments with the Beast reflecting on stuff and this added to it in a good way.
I thought Something There was probably the best musical moment in the film, while the mob scene and song piece was the most cinematic by far. They didn't ruin the ballroom scene though, so there's that. Better CG than the original too!!!! (lololol)
I dunno how I feel about Dan Stevens as the Beast. Sometimes he was serviceable, sometimes he was really good with the reactions. Maybe the CG was just inconsistent? Not sure. I would have liked the production to have more physical sets though. I could tell a lot of it was virtual extensions and CG which stood out as less lavish and more painted on. In contrast the costumes all worked so well it was beautiful. Wish that extended to all the environments.
I might watch this again soon!
Maybe you should watch it and judge for yourself. It's definitely not more "janky" than the Disney remake.
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