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[vas_a_morir]

Nah beast just got lucky. He's your classic nice guy who just happened to land the girl in the end. He'd fit right in with a fedora, especially with his hairy neck and oversized head.

Beast is the antithesis of a nice guy. Shit, the way he treated her, I'm sure Belle feared Beast was take it for a minute. Gaston... he's the nice guy. He pretended to be something he wasn't, and when she turned him down, he felt entitled to it.

Set in modern (well, contemporary) times, I think Gaston would be a poster on the Body Building forums.

 

[Slermy]

yeah Belle's got personality and looks. those triplets are just side hoes for gaston.

That's right!

...and gaston is a rapist. and also the best disney villain of all time.

Um... no. He's good, but he doesn't beat this guy:

Let's be really real though, Lumiere always had the best taste.

YES! Even as I kid I thought she was the best one.

 

[Dai101]

Look at this smooth mofo right here. He should inspire you all. Skinny, awkward, and wears goony pants.

And he's got the hot ladies flirting with HIM.

Goes to show that the most important thing is personality and charm. Lumiere knows what's up. He could talk all 3 triplets AND Belle into bed at once, you just know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVeR2VHHAEc

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Gaston is a G. My favorite character in that movie. I love all the bad guys in those films.

Scar
Ursula
Lotso
Maleficent

I'm sick in the head, lol.

 

[PhoenixSFT]

"No one twerks like Gaston
Makes it work like Gaston
No one drops down dat booty and jerks like Gaston
He be up in the club with that ass gyrating,
My, he so fly, dat Gaston"

You're my hero.

 

[Oozer3993]

there are a lot of stupid plot holes in this movie. Here's a list:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/questions-disney-forgot-to-answer-about-beauty-and-the-be\

A pox upon Buzzfeed! That article is annoying me. Almost half those questions are not just answered in the movie, but answered in the opening narration. I'm bored, so here goes a rebuttal.

2. Who punishes an 11-year-old for not letting a stranger in the house?

Think about it. The plot says they’ve been cursed for 10 years. And the ticking time bomb of a rose will only bloom until Prince Adam turns 21. So he was only a preteen when the “good fairy” came knocking on his door in the middle of the night disguised as the creepiest old witch ever then cursed him for life for obeying the rules of stranger danger and telling her to get lost. The good fairy is the true villain here.

This is a complete misunderstanding of the curse. It does not end on his birthday. The actual curse is that he will remain a beast unless he can "learn to love another, and earn her love in return by the time the last petal [of the enchanted rose] fell." The rose is said to bloom until his "twenty first year." Only after that, when the rose begins to die, will the petals start falling. The entirety of the movie takes place after the prince's 21st birthday. This question is even worse when you remember that the stained glass windows in the beginning show the prince before the curse. And he's clearly a young adult.

5. What is going on with this time-traveling portrait?

As we’ve covered, the Beast was approximately 11 when the wicked witch cast a spell on him. But wait, that portait looks just like Prince Adam does at the end of the movie. Which is fine until you realize he’s been in Beast form for a decade, so what the hell is going on here? And it’s not a recent painting — because in the origin story, you see Adam rip it to shreds with his claws in a moment of angst over the unfairness of it all. So either there is a time traveler hiding out offscreen or he was the most mature-looking 11-year-old ever painted.

See above. This is based on the premise that the prince was a boy when he was cursed. That is false.

6. What would have happened if Belle touched the rose?

No. Seriously. What would have happened? Beast gets all bent out of shape when he catches her about to lay a finger on the magic wilting rose, but no one ever clarified what the big frickin’ deal was! Would he die? Turn into a bigger monster? Be cursed to a life of knowing he was an animated cartoon? WHAT?

If Belle touches the rose and knocks off the last petals, the prince is doomed to stay a beast for the rest of his life. That's the entire crux of the spell. Like I said earlier, it's tied to the rose, NOT his age. The importance of the rose, and specifically of its petals not falling, is established explicitly in the opening narration:

If he could learn to love another, and earn her love in return by the time the last petal fell, the spell would be broken. If not, he would be doomed to remain a beast for all time.​

With how much screen time is paid to the rose, I don't know how you could miss it;s importance. The dramatic tension of the climax is achieved though cutaways to the last rose petal falling. Maybe one could miss the opening narration and not know the specifics, but it should be clear by the end that the rose is very important.

12. How did these people not know there was a cursed monster within walking distance?

It’s been 10 years, not 100. Everyone in this mob was alive when Prince Adam was still a snot-nosed kid. Don’t pretend like you didn’t know what was going on over there, peasants.

After being cursed, the Beast never leaves the castle:

Ashamed of his monstrous form, the beast concealed himself inside his castle, with a magic mirror his only window on the outside world.​

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that nobody in the town had ever met the prince before the curse (he was at least one social class above them), and therefore no one would have noticed when he became a recluse for a decade.

"No one twerks like Gaston
Makes it work like Gaston
No one drops down dat booty and jerks like Gaston
He be up in the club with that ass gyrating,
My, he so fly, dat Gaston"

Incidentally, the songwriter, the late, brilliant Howard Ashman (lyricist for this, The Little Mermaid, and half of Aladdin) would have loved this:

Something else that would have given him a charge was that just weeks after the film opened, kids in schoolyards around the nation were already creating their own revisions of "Gaston," adding their own crude variations to the list of his attributes.

Says [Ashman's's sister Sarah] Gillepsie, "I don't think that he would mind at all that kids were doing that."

Continues [Ashman's partner Bill] Lauch, "He did it all the time with other people's songs!"

- from page 22 of the excellent booklet that accompanies the music box set The Music behind the Magic.

 

[Leeness]

This is a complete misunderstanding of the curse. It does not end on his birthday. The actual curse is that he will remain a beast unless he can "learn to love another, and earn her love in return by the time the last petal [of the enchanted rose] fell." The rose is said to bloom until his "twenty first year." Only after that, when the rose begins to die, will the petals start falling. The entirety of the movie takes place after the prince's 21st birthday. This question is even worse when you remember that the stained glass windows in the beginning show the prince before the curse. And he's clearly a young adult.

See above. This is based on the premise that the prince was a boy when he was cursed. That is false.



If Belle touches the rose and knocks off the last petals, the prince is doomed to stay a beast for the rest of his life. That's the entire crux of the spell. Like I said earlier, it's tied to the rose, NOT his age. The importance of the rose, and specifically of its petals not falling, is established explicitly in the opening narration:

If he could learn to love another, and earn her love in return by the time the last petal fell, the spell would be broken. If not, he would be doomed to remain a beast for all time.​

With how much screen time is paid to the rose, I don't know how you could miss it;s importance. The dramatic tension of the climax is achieved though cutaways to the last rose petal falling. Maybe one could miss the opening narration and not know the specifics, but it should be clear by the end that the rose is very important.



After being cursed, the Beast never leaves the castle:

Ashamed of his monstrous form, the beast concealed himself inside his castle, with a magic mirror his only window on the outside world.​

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that nobody in the town had ever met the prince before the curse (he was at least one social class above them), and therefore no one would have noticed when he became a recluse for a decade.



Incidentally, the songwriter, the late, brilliant Howard Ashman (lyricist for this, The Little Mermaid, and half of Aladdin) would have loved this:



- from page 22 of the excellent booklet that accompanies the music box set The Music behind the Magic.

This is my favourite movie ever and I've seen it about a million times and always thought it was a continuity error. Lmao. I knew it was until the rose lost its petals, but I always thought the 21st year was like the second condition or something, like by his 21st the rose would be wilted/lose its last petal.

BUT YOU HAVE FINALLY MADE IT CLEAR.

Wow. Hahaha I feel like a bad fan for not realizing the rose grew until he was 21 and then wilted after.

Does that mean he's about 26/27 in the film, then (assuming he was 16/17 when he was cursed)?

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

and gaston is a rapist. and also the best disney villain of all time.

I think you're thinking about somebody else.

Spoiler

who's also a bit rapey. I'm sensing a pattern here...

 

[Deleted member 325805]

Kristin Kreuk, best beauty.

 

[Lazyslob]

The maid>the blondes> Belle. Also Gaston IS a G. Dude fought a fuckin' beast. He did use some sleazy tactics, but he was pretty much fighting a werewolf.

 

[stonesak]

Gaston didn't actually die in the movie, he just turned into this guy...

 

[terrisus]

I think you're thinking about somebody else.

Spoiler

who's also a bit rapey. I'm sensing a pattern here...

And then there's Prince Eric, with the totally-not-underaged Ariel.

 

[Lindbergh]

I thought this thread would be about if they lived happily ever after through the French Revolution.

 

[AlexMogil]

You missed the entire point of Smashmouth singing that wonderful song.