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Bernie Sanders Univision interview.

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My roommate is from New York, but he's also Colombian, and half his family is still there. You think this isn't an issue for him? This is why Bernie is losing, he can't see the forest for the trees.

Bernie is losing because he's a 74 year old atheistic, jewish, tax-raising socialist running against the most well known and well qualified household name politician in modern political history. It has nothing to do with his unwillingness to comment on foreign issues affecting minorities. Fuck me because you're going to take away what you like from this regardless of anything I tell you so continue to believe what you do.

So your argument is he could have totally answered why his brand if socialism is different and thus won't fail like it did in Latin America, but he just didn't want to?

Uh. Yes. You literally just acknowledged that it's obvious why he'd want to avoid that question when running as a socialist.

A fuck up in that response would be much, much, worse of a headline than "Bernie talks about America." Do you honestly think he's never given any thought to South American socialism?

Those same people don't live in bubble, they have friends and family who live in Latin and South America. What happens in those other countries still carries meaningful consequences for Hispanics in this country.

Let's say Bernie gave his opinion on drug cartels in Honduras. What would that affect if he's President?

Your the one acting like a presidential candidate being completely clueless isn't a bad thing so....

Who's posts are you even reading?
 

atr0cious

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Fuck me because you're going to take away what you like from this regardless of anything I tell you so continue to believe what you do.
You're the one acting like a presidential candidate being completely clueless isn't a bad thing so....

Also, lolling that you acknowledge that Bernie would get buried trying to explain his brand of socialism, but still don't see that as a reason to be worried about his chances in the general.
 
Honestly? No idea.

The fact that Bernie is sympathetic to Castro probably means he has a positive outlook of many aspects of south American socialism but believes it failed for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual socialism. How's that for a bombshell of a campaign-ending headline?

Bernie isn't losing because he's an atheist Jewish tax-raising socialist.

I entirely appreciate your theory regarding why it is he's losing, despite the fact that it casually dances over the fact that he's still an atheist Jewish tax-raising socialist and someone who thinks that had no meaningful impact on an American electorate is living in a fantasy land

Unfortunately, you're posts.

Where are my posts where I acknowledge he probably should have been more prepared? Do those not suit your narrative? You should include those next time, my man.
 

Blader

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Bernie is losing because he's a 74 year old atheistic, jewish, tax-raising socialist running against the most well known and well qualified household name politician in modern political history. It has nothing to do with his unwillingness to comment on foreign issues affecting minorities. Fuck me because you're going to take away what you like from this regardless of anything I tell you so continue to believe what you do.

Bernie isn't losing because he's an atheist Jewish tax-raising socialist. He's losing because his outreach to minority communities has been poor to non-existent. Hillary has engaged with African Americans for decades; Bernie hasn't. Hillary campaigns hard for gun control; Bernie has to do a lot of verbal gymnastics around the issue. Hillary talks about institutional racism; Bernie blames economic inequality as the root cause of racism, which might have shades of truth to it, but is far from the whole picture.

His religion or lack thereof hardly ever comes up, his potential tax hike hasn't been nearly attacked as it would be in a general (or if Hillary really had the knives out), and his socialism has been surprisingly less of a factor among Dems than I think anyone would have anticipated. He's losing because he has a very narrow demographic appeal, predominantly white liberals, who are predominantly male and under 45. He's not the first Democratic candidate to appeal mostly to young/male white liberals and he won't be the last. But there's a reason these guys tend not to become president.
 

atr0cious

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President?



Who's posts are you even reading?
Unfortunately, your posts.

Desperation at it's core. No. Kicking while down. Pathetic.

Guy was asking almost exclusively about Latin America to a ridiculous degree. Bernie rightfully basically told him to fuck off. I'm running for president of the United States. That's what this interview is about. Can you ask me more about that and not about other countries please? Yeah? Okay.

It's ridiculous seeing these 'interview bombs' being used against Sanders. Ever single one has been blatantly disingenuous garbage used to spin misleading headlines and rile up stupid people.


No shit. He started on immigration (very relevant) and soon began questioning exclusively about latin American political matters. Bernie openly said he'd rather not talk about that, and the guy still kept asking questions about it. "I'm not well informed enough on this to answer you" is a completely honest and understandable response.

EDIT: Right wing sites are even using this shit. "See! Bernie can't explain why socialism has failed! Socialism is bad! See guys? He can't explain it!". Come on. Pathetic.


"I'd rather talk about the issues that face latin Americans in the United States" is essentially what Sanders responded.

He wanted to speak to the issues facing Latin-American people residing in the United States. When asked about the countries they came from, he declined a response citing a lack of information as his excuse.

If you think this is some terrible, disqualifying response, I can only hope this primary wraps up ASAP so you can snap the fuck out of it.
 
Bernie isn't losing because he's an atheist Jewish tax-raising socialist. He's losing because his outreach to minority communities has been poor to non-existent. Hillary has engaged with African Americans for decades; Bernie hasn't. Hillary campaigns hard for gun control; Bernie has to do a lot of verbal gymnastics around the issue. Hillary talks about institutional racism; Bernie blames economic inequality as the root cause of racism, which might have shades of truth to it, but is far from the whole picture.

His religion or lack thereof hardly ever comes up, his potential tax hike hasn't been nearly attacked as it would be in a general (or if Hillary really had the knives out), and his socialism has been surprisingly less of a factor among Dems than I think anyone would have anticipated. He's losing because he has a very narrow demographic appeal, predominantly white liberals, who are predominantly male and under 45. He's not the first Democratic candidate to appeal mostly to young/male white liberals and he won't be the last. But there's a reason these guys tend not to become president.

This. All of this.
 

AxelFoley

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lol It's genuinely amazing to see people just starting to realize why many voters actually supported Clinton in the first place! Because despite her many and numerous supposed faults, she'd actually be FUCKING GOOD AND PREPARED for the highly important and serious job she's running for. Whereas Bernie would be catastrophically terrible and wholly incompetent, something his detractors noticed many, many many months ago!!! But, noooooooo, we're all just establishment $$$$$$hills! Couldn't be that he's all talk, with absolutely zero real game to back things up.

Sigh... it's the pattern that always emerges. People fall in love at first sight, then actually take a peek beneath the curtain and find out the horrific truth. Welcome to reality, folks.

This.
 

AxelFoley

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From the get-go, one of my biggest problems w/ Sanders was that he doesn't seem to have the knowledge and skills required to be President of the United States. It's a job that you basically have to be on call for 4 years, any moment anything can happen. Every night you'll get some wind down time, but otherwise you are doing things that have an impact on pretty much the whole world 14-18 hours a day. Bernie has never struck me as someone who has the ability to handle such enormous pressure and the job in general.

He just comes off as a shleb and the idea that part of his charm is that he has his wife file their taxes with turbo tax or that he rides the subway to work or that he's in substantial credit card debt has always baffled me. I want someone who is going to be on their game at all times for the 4-8 years they're president and put in the work that's required. I want someone who has worked in high pressure jobs before and can be relied on to take the 2am phone call that something crazy went down. Bernie scares the shit out of me in that regard.

Can you imagine this dude getting that 3am phone call?
 

Slayven

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Bernie isn't losing because he's an atheist Jewish tax-raising socialist. He's losing because his outreach to minority communities has been poor to non-existent. Hillary has engaged with African Americans for decades; Bernie hasn't. Hillary campaigns hard for gun control; Bernie has to do a lot of verbal gymnastics around the issue. Hillary talks about institutional racism; Bernie blames economic inequality as the root cause of racism, which might have shades of truth to it, but is far from the whole picture.

His religion or lack thereof hardly ever comes up, his potential tax hike hasn't been nearly attacked as it would be in a general (or if Hillary really had the knives out), and his socialism has been surprisingly less of a factor among Dems than I think anyone would have anticipated. He's losing because he has a very narrow demographic appeal, predominantly white liberals, who are predominantly male and under 45. He's not the first Democratic candidate to appeal mostly to young/male white liberals and he won't be the last. But there's a reason these guys tend not to become president.
can not be said enough
 
Bernie isn't losing because he's an atheist Jewish tax-raising socialist. He's losing because his outreach to minority communities has been poor to non-existent. Hillary has engaged with African Americans for decades; Bernie hasn't. Hillary campaigns hard for gun control; Bernie has to do a lot of verbal gymnastics around the issue. Hillary talks about institutional racism; Bernie blames economic inequality as the root cause of racism, which might have shades of truth to it, but is far from the whole picture.

His religion or lack thereof hardly ever comes up, his potential tax hike hasn't been nearly attacked as it would be in a general (or if Hillary really had the knives out), and his socialism has been surprisingly less of a factor among Dems than I think anyone would have anticipated. He's losing because he has a very narrow demographic appeal, predominantly white liberals, who are predominantly male and under 45. He's not the first Democratic candidate to appeal mostly to young/male white liberals and he won't be the last. But there's a reason these guys tend not to become president.
Well said.
 
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