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[silvermember]

That 60 fps was standard in most games in the past.

 

[lazygecko]

I remember that Sonic CD was regarded as the second coming back then. Donkey Cong Country's hype paled in comparison. Yet Sega screwed up

I think you're getting hype mixed up with cult following here. Sonic CD wasn't the one getting tons of marketing and review scores above 100/100.

 

[Synth]

That 60 fps was standard in most games in the past.

It kinda was prior to the 3D era though (obviously excluding PAL 50hz). It was also a shitload more common in the Dreamcast/PS2 era than today, and has basically always been standard in the arcades.

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

Man, it's like you and I speak the same language (aside from English, obviously).

We just gotta keep reminding the fools who say otherwise; sadly their numbers are ever-growing. But there might be a shift in consensus over time if we can keep presenting the more proper narrative, against bullshit like what KevinCow said (sorry KevinCow this isn't personal, but that post of yours honestly was a crock of bullshit).



Lol I'm not angry tho. But it's posts like those that spread a false narrative like wildfire to more impressionable people who are just getting into the historical aspect of the industry and don't know any better. And I happen to really respect the history of the industry, so it's a double whammy.

Add to the fact usually the folks who say that kind of thing are diehard Nintendo fans, which makes it very hard for me to publicly show my appreciation for Nintendo knowing I could get categorized with the same types who shit over my other love. That's why I tend to be more critical of Nintendo than other posters; not just b/c I want to see them do well, but b/c there's a lot of revisionists history that's been done in their favor regarding them and Sega I feel needs to be corrected.

A tight rope to walk, but we manage.

To Be fair when Midway almost completely dropped their Arcade support, around that time with very marginal releases the arcade seen was already dead. Model 3 was a pointless money sink that even the DC can't even run (for some reason) that was on par with High end PC games but that became irrelevant since you couldn't actually own those games without paying for more than a high end PC.

I know there are some trying to twist arcades as pointless, forgetting that was wre consoles were trying to be closest to, but arcades importance otherwise wasn't really that big.

 

[djtiesto]

Another one "jrpgs were big during the ps2 and ps1 generally"

Uh no this never happened. You had most Square games, a couple enix games and then the rest all flopped and were unknown niches or dos with very few exceptions.

The same happened ps2xbgc years. You had some Square/squareenix games, 1 Namco outlier, and then what? Niche sellers, and doas.

Outside Japan people think ff7 opened Te door for jrpgs of all shapes and sizes, this never happened outside Square. While the numbers were different the popularity and sales ratios were similar to the genesis and snes years. Square, a couple exceptions, niches and doas.

No one was playing saga, no one was playing wild arms, no one was playing arc, no one was playing forever kingdom.

Totally disagree on this, FF7's success had publishers who were otherwise skittish about releasing RPGs in the US jumping on board to localize. Games which never came out in the US on the SFC had their sequels on PS1 (Tales of Destiny, Star Ocean 2). Titles like Thousand Arms and Azure Dreams with their dating sim elements would have never gotten here beforehand due to that being too 'niche'. Believe me, I lived through the dark ages of localization which was the 8/16 bit eras.

Not sure how much they sold but they kept coming for the most part so it probably couldn't have been too bad.

And I was playing Arc, Wild Arms, SaGa. Still am as I'm about to beat WA5 now

 

[cerulily]

Here is one. Everbody loves DMC3 dante. But when he came out he was HATED by many for being brash and cocky and loud.

 

[petran79]

To Be fair when Midway almost completely dropped their Arcade support, around that time with very marginal releases the arcade seen was already dead. Model 3 was a pointless money sink that even the DC can't even run (for some reason) that was on par with High end PC games but that became irrelevant since you couldn't actually own those games without paying for more than a high end PC.

I know there are some trying to twist arcades as pointless, forgetting that was wre consoles were trying to be closest to, but arcades importance otherwise wasn't really that big.

Actually not even High End PCs could match the performance of Model 3 for at least 5 years.
Only advantage PCs had was more capacity, internet and better multimedia for games
It is just that with Model 3 arcades had reached their peak and downfall at the same time.
After that arcades follow the standard and cheaper PC in a box route.