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[∀ Narayan]

I was also very impressed by the agility of the elites in Reach. However on several occasion during my legendary run, i encountered elites and brutes that would just stand still at mid range while I headshoted them with the DRM. Dunno if it's a bug or if the AI doesn't know how to react.

Yeah, there can be some odd instances where the AI does absolutely nothing. This is especially true when you're paired with Marines. Sometimes they'll just walk by an Elite or Brute and nothing will happen. The Elite/Brute will just stand there and look at them. It's like they're just saying hi to each other or something. :lol

 

[tiff]

The hammer drops him quickly as well. In fact, I had no idea that people had trouble with Shadow Link until years later.

i always just spammed Din's Fire on him. never gave me any problems as a kid.

when you actually fight him straight, though, he's an absolute blast. maybe my favorite boss in the series.

 

[Always-honest]

Reach has great A.I. imo. Enemy A.i. that is. Friendly A.i. is still controller breaking (almost game breaking) terrible.

 

[hamchan]

Gray Fox can move your controller through mind power...

NICE

 

[Lion Heart]

KZ2 and the original Uncharted. Don't know why the sequel had worse A.I. but the in the first one they were very elusive and worked together to flank you. KZ2 is pretty similar as well. And ofcourse, FEAR.

 

[Q8D3vil]

FEAR
i played many games but fear takes the cake easily.
the game is repetitive but the A.I kept it fresh.

 

["God's Beard!"]

AI dummy in Virtua Fighter 4

 

[DR2K]

I think Itagaki took his A.I. director with him from Team Ninja so they're screwed.

Hayashi was the A.I director, so no he's still there. :lol

 

[Haunted]

 

[Captain Tuttle]

yes

Elites in Reach are great too.

 

[Yoshichan]

The original Half-Life. Play it on hard and try abusing the AI, mind you.

 

[Forceatowulf]

Always kept me on my toes. And groups of them were... very overwhelming to say the least.

 

[Abnormalia]

I am also of this opinion.

+1

From me.

I remember when I was playing 1st FEAR with hardest difficulty setting, I checked my network cable several times, I was filling like it was online.

I remember once died and while loading I decided to go one corner where it was dark and good shooting position.

After load I rushed and... Enemy was waiting for me in THAT corner in shadow.

LOADING...

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Any online chess game. You aren't beating the computer at higher difficulties.

 

[GeneralIroh]

Its too bad the combine from hl2 were absolutely retarded.

 

[sn00zer]

Always kept me on my toes. And groups of them were... very overwhelming to say the least.

First difficulty hurdle in DMC...also scary to boot as the first time you meet it the attacks are just all over the place

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Always kept me on my toes. And groups of them were... very overwhelming to say the least.

62 posts to see the right answer.

You fail GAF.

 

[Tarin02543]

These guys actually went hiding and never on the same spot. They were very difficult to beat.

 

[Red]

In Smash Bros. Melee (and presumably Brawl, but I haven't checked this), if you use a consistent name while fighting AI opponents in free for alls, the computer will start learning from and reacting to you.

If you wavedash a lot, after a while, they'll learn to wavedash, too. They'll start throwing star rods instead of using them as intended, they'll meteor smash instead of refusing to edge guard at all.

If you don't use a name, they will treat you like a new player.

My god

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

In Smash Bros. Melee (and presumably Brawl, but I haven't checked this), if you use a consistent name while fighting AI opponents in free for alls, the computer will start learning from and reacting to you.

If you wavedash a lot, after a while, they'll learn to wavedash, too. They'll start throwing star rods instead of using them as intended, they'll meteor smash instead of refusing to edge guard at all.

If you don't use a name, they will treat you like a new player.

I might actually be able to corroborate this. Me and my brother have noticed that the AI on our copy of Melee is stupid hard for some bizarre reason. On my friend's copy, which has seen considerably less playtime, the AI isn't nearly as good.

 

[Dahbomb]

There wasn't anything in the DMC1 Shadow AI as it was the design. It was designed to 1) Make you use your firearm to take out it's shadow layer 2) Use your devil arm to damage it's core 3) Make you evade it's very complex long-ranged move 4) stay out of it's reach when it goes berserk. When there are 3 of them in a very small room, it's harder to beat them then most bosses...

Anyway if the criteria for best AI in a game is Evil Ryu then you might as well add Vergil (final boss battle) in DMC3 and Dante in DMC4. Dante in DMC4 has 3 times the movelist of the player and every fight he uses a different set of moves. Barring a few exploits, he can generally counter everything the player can throw at him and same for Vergil.

Also Gene from Godhand and Jeanne from Bayonetta.

 

[gamemadmax]

MGS SERIES.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

There wasn't anything in the DMC1 Shadow AI as it was the design. It was designed to 1) Make you use your firearm to take out it's shadow layer 2) Use your devil arm to damage it's core 3) Make you evade it's very complex long-ranged move 4) stay out of it's reach when it goes berserk. When there are 3 of them in a very small room, it's harder to beat them then most bosses...

Anyway if the criteria for best AI in a game is Evil Ryu then you might as well add Vergil (final boss battle) in DMC3 and Dante in DMC4. Dante in DMC4 has 3 times the movelist of the player and every fight he uses a different set of moves. Barring a few exploits, he can generally counter everything the player can throw at him and same for Vergil.

Also Gene from Godhand and Jeanne from Bayonetta.

I just played the first combat against Jeanne in hard mode and was pleased to see she is even more awesome to fight...also she has more moves.

Just sharing the awesome moment...., gotta love when games just don't add more damage to the enemies in harder modes...

 

[cooljeanius]

Along those lines:

 

[sflufan]

Here is a an MIT paper about F.E.A.R.'s A.I.:

Three States and A Plan: The A.I. of F.E.A.R.

http://web.media.mit.edu/~jorkin/gdc2006_orkin_jeff_fear.pdf

 

[Kaako]

The first AI that genuinely impressed me somewhat was the AI in FEAR. The MGS series AI is good as well.

 

[out0v0rder]

i am pleased to see F.E.A.R. mentioned the most.

i will not quit gaming just yet.

 

[PolarBearsClub]

In Smash Bros. Melee (and presumably Brawl, but I haven't checked this), if you use a consistent name while fighting AI opponents in free for alls, the computer will start learning from and reacting to you.

If you wavedash a lot, after a while, they'll learn to wavedash, too. They'll start throwing star rods instead of using them as intended, they'll meteor smash instead of refusing to edge guard at all.

If you don't use a name, they will treat you like a new player.

Eh, I don't think this is true. Pretty sure it's just people noticing advanced techniques the more they use them themselves.

 

[KittenMaster]

+1 HL1 elite soldiers. HL2 combine were a disappointment after those guys.

 

[redbarchetta]

Sometimes when they're behind cover and wounded they stop popping out at all, forcing you to confront them face to face. Bravo, Naughty Dog.

That is cool, but Perfect Dark (N64) did it first.

If you camp in multiplayer and keep taking down the same AI, it will completely stop coming after you, forcing you to go find it. This can be terrifying with your radar turned off, btw.

 

[Apath]

Reach has great A.I. imo. Enemy A.i. that is. Friendly A.i. is still controller breaking (almost game breaking) terrible.

The driving AI is absolutely awful. 4/4 of the times I tried letting the friendly AI take the wheel, they have gotten stuck on nothing, almost reversed off a cliff, stopped in front of an entire battalion, etc. I could have sworn I heard press talk about how Bungie had finally nailed the driving in Reach. Instead, I think it's even worse than the driving in Halo 2.

That is cool, but Perfect Dark (N64) did it first.

If you camp in multiplayer and keep taking down the same AI, it will completely stop coming after you, forcing you to go find it. This can be terrifying with your radar turned off, btw.

If I understand correctly what you're describing, then Reach does this as well. I'll snipe at enemies with the DMR, and after killing a handful or taking a couple shots, the AI will retreat or go around another way if the terrain permits.

 

[Prine]

Halo AI is unmatched, no other enemy surprises me like the Elites.

 

[derFeef]

Reach Elites.
Those bastards, fighting one is hard enough but when they are in groups then it´s all ... *get´s stabbed by another Elite from behind*

 

[Mudkips]

Perfect Dark's Perfect AI is easily the most difficult shit ever.
I won't call it the best AI because it's just a buncha cruncha muncha bullshit cheating.

 

[MutFox]

F-Zero GX

I consider those other drivers enemies...
In Master mode, those guys were nuts!

 

[godhandiscen]

Halo Reach actually took a step backwards with respect to AI (too many enemies and about 30% of them are retarded, the rest are just decent). I think the best enemy AI out there is in Halo 3 and FEAR.

Halo AI is unmatched, no other enemy surprises me like the Elites.

Reach Elites.
Those bastards, fighting one is hard enough but when they are in groups then it´s all ... *get´s stabbed by another Elite from behind*

lolwut? The Elite AI in Legendary is basically this:

1) Stand still to receive damage.
2) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
3) Stand still to receive damage.
4) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
5) Stand still to receive damage.
6) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
7) Stand still to receive damage.
8) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
9) Stand still to receive damage.
.
.
.
N) Die

Ohh, and the brutes far in the back that won't even move at DMR distance... smh


edit: Given the amount of praise Reach gets for its AI, I really feel like I played a different game. I loved Reach, its the best game I ever played, but the enemy AI was certainly not the brightest point. I believe the problem is that I killed most enemies with the pistol or the dmr. Maybe the enemy AI is more fun when you engage it in close quarters combat (you are forced to do this a lot in H3 and its the only option in FEAR). However, I just beat the campaign in Legendary and for my own sake, I wasn't going to get close to any enemy. I just kept my distance and 90% of the enemies felt as smart as target ducks at a carnival stand. In the last mission I got an AR kill and according to some weekly challenge that was barely my fifth AR kill... :lol

 

[Sophia]

Halo AI is unmatched, no other enemy surprises me like the Elites.

If only the ally AI in Halo was as great as the enemy AI. Granted, I do enjoy watching a soldier drive a Warthog in circles. :lol

 

[DY_nasty]

Unreal Tournament AI was great back in the day. Not sure how it measures up now.

The HL1 marines were brutal. Loved fighting those guys... Still #1 imo

 

[flak57]

If only the ally AI in Halo was as great as the enemy AI. Granted, I do enjoy watching a soldier drive a Warthog in circles. :lol

Ha, in Reach's campaign I got out of a vehicle to do something, and when I went back to it the AI gunner had gotten in the drivers seat and smashed into me at full speed.

 

[derFeef]

That´s really weird godhandiscen, I will try to make a vid of such moment. I give you that, sometimes the AI freaks out and they just stand still, but most of the time it is a hunt.

 

[Jex]

lolwut? The Elite AI in Legendary is basically this:

1) Stand still to receive damage.
2) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
3) Stand still to receive damage.
4) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
5) Stand still to receive damage.
6) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
7) Stand still to receive damage.
8) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
9) Stand still to receive damage.
.
.
.
N) Die

I think we've been playing different games.

 

[Prine]

Halo Reach actually took a step backwards with respect to AI (too many enemies and about 30% of them are retarded, the rest are just decent). I think the best enemy AI out there is in Halo 3 and FEAR.






lolwut? The Elite AI in Legendary is basically this:

1) Stand still to receive damage.
2) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
3) Stand still to receive damage.
4) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
5) Stand still to receive damage.
6) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
7) Stand still to receive damage.
8) After two shots, move to the right and then to the left to appear "smart"
9) Stand still to receive damage.
.
.
.
N) Die

Ohh, and the brutes far in the back that won't even move at DMR distance... smh


edit: Given the amount of praise I really feel like I played a different game. I loved Reach, its the best game I ever played, but the enemy AI was certainly not the brightest point. I believe the problem is that I killed most enemies with the pistol or the dmr. Possibly, the AI is more fun when you engage them in close quarters combat (you are forced to do this a lot in H3 and its the only option in FEAR). However, I just beat the campaign in Legendary and for my own sake, I wasn't going to get close to any enemy. I just kept my distance and 90% of the enemies felt as smart as target ducks at a carnival stand. In the last mission I got an AR kill and according to some weekly challenge that was going on, it said that was my fifth AR kill... :lol

Single player or Co-Op??

My Elites didnt react like that at all. I was battling one (DMR, some distance) and we both broke our shields, i jumped behind cover, back up against the wall, reloading, breathing... and the bastard runs around the corner and executes me. Didnt expect him to advance as it was all me prior to my ass whoopping.

This was on the 2nd level just before you get that pointer gun.

 

[mr_nothin]

Elites in Reach. If you're going to piss them off, you better finish the job or have a lot of health/shields left.

I just discovered this today. Elites in firefight (ESPECIALLY on Heroic and Lengendary) are INSANE!

AI in campaign isnt all that great to me though.

 

[godhandiscen]

That´s really weird godhandiscen, I will try to make a vid of such moment. I give you that, sometimes the AI freaks out and they just stand still, but most of the time it is a hunt.

No, it just happened during the whole game. Some elites wouldn't even move. I mean, I wasn't going to rush at them because I didn't want to die, but it really pissed me off that they wouldn't try to do anything smart after it was obvious I was taking them down systematically from a distance. In fact, the worst opponent is that fucking grunt with the fuel rod cannon, that bitch is smart. Late in the game these grunts take 3 shots to die (helmets) and to get in position to kill one of them you have to expose yourself which means that you will have to evade the 4 plasma shots that will come at you (each shot can kill you, even through splash damage).

Single player or Co-Op??

My Elites didnt react like that at all. I was battling one (DMR, some distance) and we both broke our shields, i jumped behind cover, back up against the wall, reloading, breathing... and the bastard runs around the corner and executes me. Didnt expect him to advance as it was all me prior to my ass whoopping.

This was on the 2nd level just before you get that pointer gun.

Single player of course. Check my gamertag, I can prove it, it's the same as my GAF name. The Halo Reach AI was just bad, really bad. I am pretty sure there is a more solid code behind the behavior, but some designer really fucked up the set pieces and that beautiful algorithm went to waste.

 

[wolfmat]

Deep Fritz 12, the opponent. Dat opening

 

[godhandiscen]

The elites are extremely dumb. There is one set piece in the last level when I literally ran out of ammo (there were only AR's around, but :lol AR). I was about to restart the level, but i noticed that if I got close to the elite but still remained behind cover, my AI partner would engage the elites and kill them off. I killed 4 elites this way. I was happy I didn't have to restart the level, but I was dissapointed it was so easy to trick the elites. I was literally one meter away from them, but since I was behind some crater, they wouldn't come after me.

 

[Karmacide]

Eh, I don't think this is true. Pretty sure it's just people noticing advanced techniques the more they use them themselves.

It's at least very true for Smash Brawl. I didn't know it was present in Smash melee.

I can confirm that in Brawl the CPUS start to pick up on your habits and utilize them.

 

[Sophia]

Ha, in Reach's campaign I got out of a vehicle to do something, and when I went back to it the AI gunner had gotten in the drivers seat and smashed into me at full speed.

Oh I've had worse things happen. One of the missions in Reach had me, for whatever crazy reason, decide to man the turret of a Warthog. I quickly realized this was a bad idea when the AI decided to "park" near an edge... and the enemy decided to ram into them. Cue us toppling over. :lol

 

[spons]

Perfect Dark's Perfect AI is easily the most difficult shit ever.
I won't call it the best AI because it's just a buncha cruncha muncha bullshit cheating.

It's just twitchy moving and headshots all over the place. And that's exactly the way I like it.

 

[NaughtyPrawn]

Heres another vote for the Halo series Elites. The assholes