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Best graphics this gen: Prince of Persia?

I found Halo 3 to be pretty jarring from the start(jaggies, first level showed that fact off a lot), but later levels could look awesome, and I really liked the lighting and panning around in theater mode going into explosions or viewing all the effects.

I'd imagine off screen pics of it would look better on levels other than the first and second, both of which were meh looking IMO.
 
Halo 3 has some seriously weird shortcomings. Character (specifically human) models looking shit is somewhat understandable, but I'll never understand why they thought that shitty weapon models was an acceptable flaw. On the upside, I actually liked many of the environments, and no one does big design quite like Bungie. Even the forested environments were believable in an action figure game sort of way, despite having the goofiest looking trees around.
 
Insane Metal said:
I laughed my ass off with this post, but I don't get it, are you saying that Unchie 2's screenshots are bs?
No, in fact I had a PGR4 screenshot for that line before, but it didn't work when I clicked preview post so I changed it to the first screenshot I found in this thread.

Grunty: "The screenshot of PGR4, didn't work no more
just when I farted, I found a screenshot of uncharted"
 
[Nintex] said:
No, in fact I had a PGR4 screenshot for that line before, but it didn't work when I clicked preview post so I changed it to the first screenshot I found in this thread.

:lol That is just fantastic stuff.
 
Why are people debating these uncharted 2 shots? All promo shots for sony games are rendered in engine, but at insanely-high resolutions, and then down-scaled to 720p.
 
brain_stew said:
The god awful tearing and framerate do an awful lot to nullify its achievements. Any game with tearing should never be mentioned in a debate about quality graphics, its something that was unacceptable in the late nineties ffs. It can and will completely destroy any visual appeal of a game. Thankfully with a PC, you can choose not to suffer tearing in any single game, and with triple buffering not even suffer a performance hit.

Jesus christ, I haven't read so much FUD about Uncharted ever since andrewfee used to troll in the official thread.
 
sca2511 said:
why is RE5 being put out multiple times, i dont think it looked that good :\

I think it's one of the best looking games out, the character models in particular I love looking at in the figurine galley.
 
Zeliard said:
I didn't think Halo 3 was an ugly game, but I'm a lighting whore, so that's probably why. I can take muddy textures and some aliasing if the lighting is nice enough, as it is in Halo 3.

The game itself, on the other hand, left much to be desired.

I totally agree, the amazing lighting, motion blur and particle effects plus the big scope are the reasons why I still think (even with the lack of AA/AF) that the game is still looking nice...hopefully in ODST the IQ will be greatly improved.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
That is a damn tragedy.
Don't buy into it too much. The mod is very much alive and the team posts updates to their thread on Crymod often enough. I'm sure it'll come out, might take a good while but even then, the engine will still be among the best if not still the best.
 
Dabanton said:
A lot of those are custom configs, i always find they give the best results that's the thing i love about PC games i can tweak the graphic settings to my hearts desire.
I think it's a bit misleading to use those kinds of screens when the game doesn't look like that for 99% of people playing the game.
It's kinda like off-screen shots of console games I guess. Or bullshots like in the case of Uncharted 2 and others.

Crysis looks good enough in it's "standard" mode, no need to cheat to make it look it even more superior.
 
Papercuts said:
I think it's one of the best looking games out, the character models in particular I love looking at in the figurine galley.
That's about all it has going for it though, really. Graphically it's all over the place, even worse about it than Halo 3 is IMO.

PS3 > Killzone 2
PC > Mirrors Edge
Xbox360 > RE 5
Wii > Super Mario Galaxy
DS > Moon
PSP > God of War
iPhone > Need for Speed
This I agree with for the most part, though I'd swap ME for Crysis and RE5 for Gears 2. I really haven't played Banjo enough to make an educated opinion on it.
 
Zophar said:
That's about all it has going for it though, really. Graphically it's all over the place, even worse about it than Halo 3 is IMO.

Really? I don't think that at all. Most of the setpieces left a lasting image in my mind(though the chapter 6 ship is pretty generic). While some of the enemies using RE4 stun animations really bothered me in videos, it ended up being something I didn't tend to notice in actual exection, and once the tribal majini come into play they start doing completly different stuff.

I dunno, what areas in particular made you feel that way?
 
Papercuts said:
Really? I don't think that at all. Most of the setpieces left a lasting image in my mind(though the chapter 6 ship is pretty generic). While some of the enemies using RE4 stun animations really bothered me in videos, it ended up being something I didn't tend to notice in actual exection, and once the tribal majini come into play they start doing completly different stuff.

I dunno, what areas in particular made you feel that way?
I felt the environments in particular were full of low-polygon architecture and low-res textures, covered up mostly by an admittedly fantastic motion-blur, though the tech was lifted directly from Lost Planet. I know I've said it before but the amount the two games resemble each other technically is disheartening.
 
sca2511 said:
why is RE5 being put out multiple times, i dont think it looked that good :\
the bosses in the game looked fantastic and the tribal area where its raining and the gators are trying to kill you when your on the raft was just great looking
 
CitizenCope said:
I know I'll probably be alone but Bioshock is still tops IMO.

We can huddle together if you want.

I was just in the middle of re-playing this game when my xbox DVD drive failed. I love how you can stop moving and just about any view you see makes an interesting picture to look at. Fucking solid 30fps stylish beauty that one is I tell ya.
 
MickeyKnox said:
Don't buy into it too much. The mod is very much alive and the team posts updates to their thread on Crymod often enough. I'm sure it'll come out, might take a good while but even then, the engine will still be among the best if not still the best.

How bad ass would a properly done dinosaur game be.

Zaphod said:
We can huddle together if you want.

I was just in the middle of re-playing this game when my xbox DVD drive failed. I love how you can stop moving and just about any view you see makes an interesting picture to look at. Fucking solid 30fps stylish beauty that one is I tell ya.

I think the art style of Bioshock is as good as it gets I just kind of wish it was on a different engine. The overly glossy look of UE3 starts to wear on me.
 
IMO either Uncharted, MGS4, or killzone 2. i really didn't have framerate problems or tearing consistently with any of them, so ymmv on these "facts".
 
There's just way too much god damn arguing and not nearly enough picture posting happening on this page

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Crappy quality screens, but this is one of the more visually appealing games of this generation, in my opinion.
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Halo 3 has some seriously weird shortcomings. Character (specifically human) models looking shit is somewhat understandable, but I'll never understand why they thought that shitty weapon models was an acceptable flaw. On the upside, I actually liked many of the environments, and no one does big design quite like Bungie. Even the forested environments were believable in an action figure game sort of way, despite having the goofiest looking trees around.

Yeah I agree with this, except I didn't really have a problem with the weapon models. The human models were shockingly bad but the environments and lighting were great. I'm also a fan of the more colorful world. Anti-aliasing would have done the game a lot of good but not worth killing a steady frame rate.

It's not a contender for a best graphics by any stretch but I thought it had its share of impressive moments.
 
nib95 said:
LOL. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that....

Anyway, never understood graphical admiration in regards to Halo 3. Didn't even think the lighting was that spectacular either. I also think some poor optimisation decisions were made, but I'm not a developer so I can only delve so deep. But it always struck me as weird that some textures looked great up close, but at ordinary and long distances things looked blurry or jaggy due to the complete lack of AA and AF. Shouldn't AA/AF be more important than having decent textures at extreme close ups? Seems a terrible waste of resources to me.

If only devs could listen to that, there's so many next gen games with crazy textures and details, and yet, they end up looking just average because of the lack of AF. I'm in love with the visuals of Motorstorm 2, but with better texture filtering it would easily look 10 times better.
 
Ether_Snake said:
What people should realize is that even with the tech that allows you to render such scenes, it doesn't mean much if the experience is nothing new.

You could have some really incredible experience in such an environment, but in the end you just shoot some North Koreans (or something like it).

Can't wait for a fantasy game set in such well rendered settings, made by competent game designers.

Let me guess, modern warfare was revolutionary yes?
 
I've never thought that Bungie's decision to trade decent image quality for ostensibly 'better' lighting was a worthwhile investment. With 2xAA and AF Halo 3 could have looked decent, but as it is I think it looks pretty bad.
 
Feindflug said:
Talk about a shitty picture....here are some much better off-screen pics:


And the game looks even better in motion...Halo 3 looks great IMO.

Your off-screen pics don't support your argument. To be fair, Halo 3 looks better than that.
 
I think Ether_Snake's reaction to Crysis is thanks to the fact that in a game like COD, fun is spoon fed to you, but in a game like Crysis, you have to go out and find the fun for yourself, by taking full advantage of all the different mechanics.

I don't feel Crytek did a particularly good job of encouraging people to have fun with the system (the best method is usually sneak in, find a good choke point, and then just shoot some mo-fos), but in the end, that's where most people will get their fun from the game.
 
I'd have to give the nod to RE5. Though it has it's fair share of mediocre spots. Gears 2 has some incredible set pieces as well.

I'm going to have fight off my motion sickness and finish KZ2. I need to see one of those wow moments every one talks about.
 
Rez said:
I think Ether_Snake's reaction to Crysis is thanks to the fact that in a game like COD, fun is spoon fed to you, but in a game like Crysis, you have to go out and find the fun for yourself, by taking full advantage of all the different mechanics.

I don't feel Crytek did a particularly good job of encouraging people to have fun with the system (the best method is usually sneak in, find a good choke point, and then just shoot some mo-fos), but in the end, that's where most people will get their fun from the game.
I think your spot on about Crysis, what did you think about the story? I'm curious, cause for me there was a point near the end where it fell to pieces for me.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
You know a game looks bad when even off-screen shots don't help.



Any pics of that? I would love to see some shots of H2 in the PC glory thread.

Again, not the best screens but these should give you a basic idea of the image quality.
 
Its funny how we're supposed to nitpick in favor of Killzone to when comparing it to other games, but are expected to concede undeniable victory to Killzone when compared to all other console games.
We know very little about the per-frame load of other games but are more than willing to give KZ the crown. I'm willing to bet that there are games that push more polys and have a higher shader load than KZ. There's probably quite a few games with technically superior elements to KZ2 but those are ignored because they don't fit the agenda.

KZ2 is not the undisputed king of graphics, console or PC. Some people (dare I say) think the burned out wasteland art style is ugly, just as other think the organic environments in Crysis are stale and lifeless..Best graphics is completely subjective and cannot be argued. Saying a game has the best graphics because it has a checklist of spiffy buzzwords is like saying 1 game is better than another because it sold more.
 
Mastperf said:
Its funny how we're supposed to nitpick in favor of Killzone to when comparing it to other games, but are expected to concede undeniable victory to Killzone when compared to all other console games.
We know very little about the per-frame load of other games but are more than willing to give KZ the crown. I'm willing to bet that there are games that push more polys and have a higher shader load than KZ. There's probably quite a few games with technically superior elements to KZ2 but those are ignored because they don't fit the agenda.

KZ2 is not the undisputed king of graphics, console or PC. Some people (dare I say) think the burned out wasteland art style is ugly, just as other think the organic environments in Crysis are stale and lifeless..Best graphics is completely subjective and cannot be argued. Saying a game has the best graphics because it has a checklist of spiffy buzzwords is like saying 1 game is better than another because it sold more.

No.
 
Zophar said:
That's about all it has going for it though, really. Graphically it's all over the place, even worse about it than Halo 3 is IMO.
I don't even know what the hell "all over the place" means, I hear it for RE5 and heard it for Resistance 2. It's a gorgeous game. The textures are not the best as far as resolution, but the detail is staggering. I'll take realistic looking textures from a distance over the shiny, bloomy nonsense in the Unreal Engine any day.

Gears does look good, though I think the best use of the Unreal Engine is Bioshock.
 
shadowsdarknes said:
Killzone still holds the crown.

Imo, as far as consoles go, it does so comfortably.

Second place however is a different story, with RE5, Gears 2, MGS4, Uncharted, MR: PR, GT5P etc all fighting it out.
 
Pojo said:
Gears does look good, though I think the best use of the Unreal Engine is Bioshock.

Bioshock excels in art direction, but I'd say it suffered from the UE shiny effect quite a bit. I'd personally say aside from Gears, Mirror's Edge would hold the crown with the engine, mainly because I was in complete disbelief it actually ran on it.
 
Pojo said:
I don't even know what the hell "all over the place" means, I hear it for RE5 and heard it for Resistance 2. It's a gorgeous game. The textures are not the best as far as resolution, but the detail is staggering. I'll take realistic looking textures from a distance over the shiny, bloomy nonsense in the Unreal Engine any day.

Gears does look good, though I think the best use of the Unreal Engine is Bioshock.

I think Bioshock is a modified UE II game no?
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Crappy quality screens, but this is one of the more visually appealing games of this generation, in my opinion.

Crackdown was an amazing game technically. I loved the subtle cell-shaded/comic look. And the draw distance was to die for.
 
Personally I think Halo 3 is the best looking game released thus far on consoles. I saw it at a friends house in multiplayer and it looks amazing in motion, especially the lighting. The bright and vibrant colours also helped with the overall presentation. Then you've got the features such as Forge, split screen, co-op, video uploads, nice matchmaking etc and I don't think any game comes close, on consoles or on PC. Crysis may look good, but it doesn't compare to all the things that Halo 3 pushes in one package. If I didn't already have a PS3 I'd invest in a 360 as well just for that game.

Every time a Halo game comes out it's a big deal around the world and for a good reason. All Crysis has going for it is high res textures with cutting edge graphics cards. Halo delivers a package that I haven't seen any FPS even get close to yet.

I'd give it to Halo. No contest.
 
CrushDance said:
Personally I think Halo 3 is the best looking game released thus far on consoles. I saw it at a friends house in multiplayer and it looks amazing in motion, especially the lighting. The bright and vibrant colours also helped with the overall presentation. Then you've got the features such as Forge, split screen, co-op, video uploads, nice matchmaking etc and I don't think any game comes close, on consoles or on PC. Crysis may look good, but it doesn't compare to all the things that Halo 3 pushes in one package. If I didn't already have a PS3 I'd invest in a 360 as well just for that game.

Every time a Halo game comes out it's a big deal around the world and for a good reason. All Crysis has going for it is high res textures with cutting edge graphics cards. Halo delivers a package that I haven't seen any FPS even get close to yet.

I'd give it to Halo. No contest.

Have you seen Killzone?
 
CrushDance said:
Personally I think Halo 3 is the best looking game released thus far on consoles. I saw it at a friends house in multiplayer and it looks amazing in motion, especially the lighting. The bright and vibrant colours also helped with the overall presentation. Then you've got the features such as Forge, split screen, co-op, video uploads, nice matchmaking etc and I don't think any game comes close, on consoles or on PC. Crysis may look good, but it doesn't compare to all the things that Halo 3 pushes in one package. If I didn't already have a PS3 I'd invest in a 360 as well just for that game.

Every time a Halo game comes out it's a big deal around the world and for a good reason. All Crysis has going for it is high res textures with cutting edge graphics cards. Halo delivers a package that I haven't seen any FPS even get close to yet.

I'd give it to Halo. No contest.

Run fast and far. GAF is giving you a 30 second head start...GO!1!
 
Dizzan said:
Have you seen Killzone?
I've seen it and own it, it looks great presentation wise. But ends up feeling cluttered, Halo just keeps going and has a much cleaner look to it(Which I prefer).

I'd say Halo>Crysis>Killzone. For a multitude of reasons, but the technological advances amde my Halo 3 can't be ignored either. The game is absolutely stunning and consistent to the point where it can hold its own with newly released games.

soldat7 said:
Run fast and far. GAF is giving you a 30 second head start...GO!1!
Why? I don't think I said anything wrong.
 
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