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Best PS4 Audio Settings?

I'm surprised by the comments suggesting bitstream for movies even if your A/V setup supports HDMI + Linear PCM.

Is the rationale that for the movies that support DTS MA, bitstream provides better audio than Linear PCM?

I'm fairly confident that almost everywhere I've read the discussion (including here), the standard suggestion was to use Linear PCM with an HDMI, 5.1 audio setup for both games and movies.

It's a placebo. Either the PS4 or the receiver will be decoding the DTS Master or the TrueHD to PCM. In the end, it's all the same. Some people just like to see the DTSMA or TrueHD light on their receiver.

The only exception is Dolby Atmos and the upcoming DTS-X. You need to do bitstream for the receiver to output those extra channels
 
I'm surprised by the comments suggesting bitstream for movies even if your A/V setup supports HDMI + Linear PCM.

Is the rationale that for the movies that support DTS MA, bitstream provides better audio than Linear PCM?

I'm fairly confident that almost everywhere I've read the discussion (including here), the standard suggestion was to use Linear PCM with an HDMI, 5.1 audio setup for both games and movies.

it should provide identical results...so its a matter of where you want the decoding to take place...inside the PS4...or inside your receiver...

and some people just like to see "DTS:MA" light up on the display of their receiver
 
It's a placebo. Either the PS4 or the receiver will be decoding the DTS Master or the TrueHD to PCM. In the end, it's all the same. Some people just like to see the DTSMA or TrueHD light on their receiver.

The only exception is Dolby Atmos and the upcoming DTS-X. You need to do bitstream for the receiver to output those extra channels

Do many blu rays support atmos? Do any games? Or would the receiver be capable of "faking" it?

My receiver can do atmos, but i havent purchased any speakers for that set up yet. I plean to at some point i suppose.
 
Do many blu rays support atmos? Do any games? Or would the receiver be capable of "faking" it?

My receiver can do atmos, but i havent purchased any speakers for that set up yet. I plean to at some point i suppose.

No games support it and not many Blu-ray supported at the moment. Morso, to take advantage of it you need a pair of speakers which either go on the ceiling or go on top of your front speakers and beam up to bounce the sound off the ceiling.

However, if you have the speakers and a receiver capable, you can emulate that sound with a certain mode on your receiver. On my Pioneer Elite it's called virtual height. You do technically lose two of your surround speakers when you do that though, because Dolby Atmos is capable of 5.1.2 Kama which is to say 5 main speakers Kama a subwoofer, and 2 height speakers
 
If you use your system for watching Blu-rays, and have a receiver that can handle PCM through HDMI, there's literally no point in using bitstreaming (edit: over toslink). You don't get DTS-MA lossless. You're just getting DTS (768kbps - 1.5mbps) that way. While it might sound good enough, it's still an inferior stream if you have another option.
 
So, Linear PCM is the way to go even if you use an optical cable to connect the PS4 to the receiver?

No. You can't send multichannel PCM through toslink. You'll only get 2ch stereo that way, and need an HDMI cable if you're wanting more than stereo. The best that you can get over toslink is 7.1 compressed Dolby Digital and DTS. I'd be lying though if I said that even compressed "DTS" didn't sound pretty good as it is.
 
If you use your system for watching Blu-rays, and have a receiver that can handle PCM through HDMI, there's literally no point in using bitstreaming. You don't get DTS-MA lossless. You're just getting DTS (768kbps - 1.5mbps) that way. While it might sound good enough, it's still an inferior stream if you have another option.

If your receiver can process DTS-MA you will get the full quality through bitstreaming with HDMI. You will only get the standard DTS or DD if you connect it with optical.
 
Do NOT listen to this man ;)

If you use a HDMI receiver use PCM that will give you LOSSLESS 7.1 audio

If you use Optical DTS>Dolby and if you use only stereo select PCM because Optical can only do 2 lossless channels.
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This is correct.
PCM is lossless, uncompressed, so due to toslink bandwidth limitations, it can only do 2ch PCM. If you use toslink to a 5.1 system, then you'll want to use DTS which compresses the audio to 1.5mbps and will require your receiver to decode the audio.

If you output via HDMI to a receiver, use PCM as HDMI bandwidth can support 7.1 PCM. Or if you want the DTS HD MA light on the reciever then bitstream the content and the reciever will decode to PCM rather than the console. No quality difference.
 
If your receiver can process DTS-MA you will get the full quality through bitstreaming with HDMI. You will only get the standard DTS or DD if you connect it with optical.

Hmm, I guess I can see how what I said might not have been fully explained. Because I wasn't arguing anything contray to this. However, PCM is still going to get you the same results over HDMI. Edited in "toslink" since that's what I was talking about anyway.
 
If your receiver can process DTS-MA you will get the full quality through bitstreaming with HDMI. You will only get the standard DTS or DD if you connect it with optical.

Yes, this is true, but you will also get the full quality PCM through HDMI. Bitstreaming is only truly necessary for formats like Dolby Atmos and the upcoming DTS-X.

Basically, if you have an HDMI surround capable receiver, you can do either bitstream or PCM through HDMI and you'll get the exact same result (with the exception mentioned above)
 
This is what I believe to be true, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

If you are using HDMI to a HDMI capable receiver:

- The Audio Format setting in the Audio Output Settings menu should be set to Linear PCM. This is uncompressed audio.
- WIth this setting enabled and while playing a Bluray movie, you can press the Options button during playback, and select Settings->Audio Format->Bitstream (Direct). This will make it so that the PS4 doesn't decode the audio track, but passes it straight to the receiver, and should also mean that your receiver display indicates that it is being fed a DTS-HD track for a compatible movie. I don't think it will make a difference in audio quality from LPCM, but at least you will know that you receiver is receiving the DTS-HD track.
-You should NOT, however, use the bitstream option in the console Audio Output Settings. This option makes you choose between DTS or Dolby Digital, and will effectively compress all audio from the system.

If you are using Optical Out

-For a 2.0 setup, use Linear PCM as your Audio Format
-For a 5.1 setup, use Bitstream DTS as your Audio Format. This is because Optical doesn't not have the bandwidth to do uncompressed 5.1 audio.
 
- WIth this setting enabled and while playing a Bluray movie, you can press the Options button during playback, and select Settings->Audio Format->Bitstream (Direct). This will make it so that the PS4 doesn't decode the audio track, but passes it straight to the receiver, and should also mean that your receiver display indicates that it is being fed a DTS-HD track for a compatible movie. I don't think it will make a difference in audio quality from LPCM, but at least you will know that you receiver is receiving the DTS-HD track.

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You are correct that it doesn't make a difference. There were a lot of forum battles when the OG PS3 came out with people pissed that the PS3 didn't bitstream TrueHD or DTS-MA, even though it actually made no difference. They just wanted to see that little light on their receiver.
 
Same should apply to the PS4 (I don't recall the audio menu settings 100%).

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/demystifying-the-audio-settings-on-your-playstation-3/

I'm not even sure what the point of choosing between having the PS4 decode, and having your receiver decode is. If you have just about any receiver that accepts HDMI, chances are it's going to accept and decode LPCM anyway.

Won't higher end receivers be able to decode it better than a PS4 or is that not true?
 
I'm surprised by the comments suggesting bitstream for movies even if your A/V setup supports HDMI + Linear PCM.

Is the rationale that for the movies that support DTS MA, bitstream provides better audio than Linear PCM?

I'm fairly confident that almost everywhere I've read the discussion (including here), the standard suggestion was to use Linear PCM with an HDMI, 5.1 audio setup for both games and movies.

You always want to use multi-channel LPCM on the games as the game's code internally works in PCM and any kind of Dolby/DTS conversion is just unneeded overhead. If you need to use optical please upgrade your shit (I mean, seriously, A/V receivers that support 7.1 LCPM/TrueHD/DTS-HD have been round for a decade at this point...).

For movies, however, you need to have the Blu-ray player's settings set to bitstream as any modern A/V receiver will generally handle things like DSP effects much better if it is the hardware decoding the Dolby/DTS signal. Additionally, you need bitstream for modern Blu-ray releases with Dolby Atmos or DTS:X for Atmos/DTS:X to work at all at a technical level (there is no work-around).

If for some reason you just gotta use optical (for the love of god don't), DTS is better than DD, which is better than LPCM. Only use LPCM on optical if you've got an old 2.0 stereo system with some compatibility issues (upgrade your shit). SPDIF ("optical" is just SPDIF over fiber, aka TOSLINK) dates back to the 1980s and it's best left in the 80s at this point.

While you're in the Blu-ray player's settings make sure to disable Noise Reduction and Dynamic Range Control. For the love of god don't enable Zoom.

All of the above applies to the Xbox One as well.
 
This is what I believe to be true, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

If you are using HDMI to a HDMI capable receiver:

- The Audio Format setting in the Audio Output Settings menu should be set to Linear PCM. This is uncompressed audio.
- WIth this setting enabled and while playing a Bluray movie, you can press the Options button during playback, and select Settings->Audio Format->Bitstream (Direct). This will make it so that the PS4 doesn't decode the audio track, but passes it straight to the receiver, and should also mean that your receiver display indicates that it is being fed a DTS-HD track for a compatible movie. I don't think it will make a difference in audio quality from LPCM, but at least you will know that you receiver is receiving the DTS-HD track.
-You should NOT, however, use the bitstream option in the console Audio Output Settings. This option makes you choose between DTS or Dolby Digital, and will effectively compress all audio from the system.

If you are using Optical Out

-For a 2.0 setup, use Linear PCM as your Audio Format
-For a 5.1 setup, use Bitstream DTS as your Audio Format. This is because Optical doesn't not have the bandwidth to do uncompressed 5.1 audio.

What you are saying seems to be the correct general concensous however this article below from Dolby is saying you should be setting the PlayStation OS audio settings to "Bitstream (Dolby)" (instead of Linear PCM as suggested numerous times in this topic) and then while watching a bluray select "Bitstream (Direct)" to
achieve the newer audio formats like Atmos and DTS-X (as most have stated).

http://developer.dolby.com/News/Enabling_Dolby_Bitstream_Pass-Through_on_Playstation.aspx
 
PCM if using optical. Bitstream if using HDMI. PCM over HDMI produces 2.0 for some reason at the moment.
I just saw this post. I have an oled c6 and lg sound bar with 2 surround and I was going crazy why I didn't have 5.1 but stereo even with surround. I tried lpcm or bitstream same. But when playing a movie I pressed option/ settings/ and there I put bitstream and now 5.1 is working perfectly.
 
I've been using LPCM via HDMI directly to my AV receiver perfectly. Alas, I recently found out via hooking up an Xbox One S that my AV receiver doesn't support HDR or 10bit passthrough. This really blows as I just bought the receiver some 6 months ago for the sole purpose of the 4k future, sadly 4k and HDCP 2.2 is all it does, nothing else. So when the Pro comes out I'm gonna have to instead HDMI it directly to my TV and use Audio Return Channel (ARC) to get sound to the receiver. As far as I know, Bitstream and Dolby Digital 5.1 is the only real option for this setup, correct? Sucks I won't be able to get uncompressed audio anymore...
 
Im gaming using this tv
http://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/4k-suhd-tvs/4k-suhd-js8500-series-smart-tv-65...
Which is plugged into
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/HT-F5500W/ZA

I can get get dts HD when I use the bluray player but I can't select it when using the PS4. My settings I'm using on the PS4 are hdmi out and LPCM. I can select dpl2 game, matrix, movie or dts neo.

Am I doing something wrong here? So confused.

Thanks

Change the audio output while in the Bluray app to bitstream on the PS4.
 
Tried that no dice. I can get matrix and virtual 7.1. Oh well guess I'll stick with my Astros.
DTS Neo fusion seems to make the game sound good so I guess I'll stick with that when not using my headphones.
 
I need help here guys. Sorry for the bump.

But this has happened ever since launch. Everytike I turn my PS4 and TV, theres a delay of audio, like half a second or a second. I have to switch the source of the TV to anyother, before selecting the hdmi source the ps4 is in, for the sound to be on par.

On the Xbox One, the audio is fine, but if it is like the click noise it makes when youre on the menu, the sounds geta cut off before it finishes.
 
Hi!

Sorry for bumping an old thread but I can't make new threads.

So, I recently got an LG 55" OLED B6V with a PS4 Pro.

My home theater system is a Sony BDV-N7200W 5.1 system with the following specs:

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/all-in-one-home-cinema-systems/bdv-n7200w/specifications

* The receiver on the home cinema has a HDMI Out (ARC) that is connected via a HDMI to the OLED B6V HDMI 2 (ARC).

* The PS4 Pro is connected with the including cable the box directly to the HDMI 1 on the OLED B6V.

Under Audio Settings on the PS4 Pro I have Linear PCM of course.

Under the Audio Settings on my OLED B6V I have External Speakers (HDMI OUT / Optical) and the receiver is on TV-output (since it can only choose between HDMI 1/HDMI 2/TV/Bluetooth).

I was just wondering if I have the most optimal settings, cause I am afraid I have the wrong settings haha.

I appreciate some help in this matter, thank you very much.
 
Hi!

Sorry for bumping an old thread but I can't make new threads.

So, I recently got an LG 55" OLED B6V with a PS4 Pro.

My home theater system is a Sony BDV-N7200W 5.1 system with the following specs:

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/all-in-one-home-cinema-systems/bdv-n7200w/specifications

* The receiver on the home cinema has a HDMI Out (ARC) that is connected via a HDMI to the OLED B6V HDMI 2 (ARC).

* The PS4 Pro is connected with the including cable the box directly to the HDMI 1 on the OLED B6V.

Under Audio Settings on the PS4 Pro I have Linear PCM of course.

Under the Audio Settings on my OLED B6V I have External Speakers (HDMI OUT / Optical) and the receiver is on TV-output (since it can only choose between HDMI 1/HDMI 2/TV/Bluetooth).

I was just wondering if I have the most optimal settings, cause I am afraid I have the wrong settings haha.

I appreciate some help in this matter, thank you very much.

Change it to Dolby instead of PCM to get 5.1. Your TV will only pass 2.0 PCM to your receiver.
 
Hi!

Sorry for bumping an old thread but I can't make new threads.

So, I recently got an LG 55" OLED B6V with a PS4 Pro.

My home theater system is a Sony BDV-N7200W 5.1 system with the following specs:

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/all-in-one-home-cinema-systems/bdv-n7200w/specifications

* The receiver on the home cinema has a HDMI Out (ARC) that is connected via a HDMI to the OLED B6V HDMI 2 (ARC).

* The PS4 Pro is connected with the including cable the box directly to the HDMI 1 on the OLED B6V.

Under Audio Settings on the PS4 Pro I have Linear PCM of course.

Under the Audio Settings on my OLED B6V I have External Speakers (HDMI OUT / Optical) and the receiver is on TV-output (since it can only choose between HDMI 1/HDMI 2/TV/Bluetooth).

I was just wondering if I have the most optimal settings, cause I am afraid I have the wrong settings haha.

I appreciate some help in this matter, thank you very much.

PS4 should be running to the receiver, not the TV.

Once that's done, make sure you're PS4 is set to output LPCM.

When playing a Blu-ray, that has separate settings you can bring up. You'll want to select Bitstream (Direct) for that.
 
PS4 should be running to the receiver, not the TV.

Once that's done, make sure you're PS4 is set to output LPCM.

When playing a Blu-ray, that has separate settings you can bring up. You'll want to select Bitstream (Direct) for that.

So you are telling me that I should plug in my PS4 Pro to the receiver with the included 4K-cable from PS4 Pro-box to the HDMI 1 / HDMI 2 port on my receiver? And HDMI-OUT from the receiver to the TV (not ARC, but any other HDMI-port)?

My receiver cannot pass on HDR or 4K from the PS4 Pro (the receiver is from 2014) to the TV. When I went to Video Settings it said that my TV didn't support HDR or 4K (even though I activated the UHD Deep Colour setting on my LG).


I think my receiver is just to old.
 
So you are telling me that I should plug in my PS4 Pro to the receiver with the included 4K-cable from PS4 Pro-box to the HDMI 1 / HDMI 2 port on my receiver? And HDMI-OUT from the receiver to the TV (not ARC, but any other HDMI-port)?

My receiver cannot pass on HDR or 4K from the PS4 Pro (the receiver is from 2014) to the TV. When I went to Video Settings it said that my TV didn't support HDR or 4K (even though I activated the UHD Deep Colour setting on my LG).


I think my receiver is just to old.

Ah yeah, 4K and HDR would be a problem.

And looking at the specs, your receiver doesn't support high-res audio formats on the HDMI-in ports for some reason.

So yeah, I'd suggest getting a better receiver soon, because PS4 direct to the TV will give you 4K and HDR, but you miss out on 5.1/7.1 LPCM, DTS-HD, etc.

PS4 to TV can only do 2.0 LPCM, or lossy 5.1
 
Ah yeah, 4K and HDR would be a problem.

And looking at the specs, your receiver doesn't support high-res audio formats on the HDMI-in ports for some reason.

So yeah, I'd suggest getting a better receiver soon, because PS4 direct to the TV will give you 4K and HDR, but you miss out on 5.1/7.1 LPCM, DTS-HD, etc.

PS4 to TV can only do 2.0 LPCM, or lossy 5.1

But I have my receiver connected via the HDMI-OUT (ARC) on the receiver, to the HDMI 2 (ARC) on the OLED.

I was checking this guide and it says in this section:

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"Essentially how we're going to get HDR visuals on your TV screen and still keep your surround sound intact is by separating the visual and audio streams. We'll achieve this by connecting your PS4/PS4 Pro directly to your TV and then connecting your AV unit to your TV, via an ARC-HDMI port.

ARC stands for ‘Audio Return Channel' and does pretty much what it says on the tin, as it splits the audio stream from the visual stream and sends only the audio from the device (in this case the PS4/PS4 Pro) to your AV unit. The upshot of this is that only the audio ends up going through the AV unit and not the visuals, since the latter will be going through your lovely HDR-compliant TV instead.

The majority of AV receivers manufactured over the last three to four years typically include a HDMI-ARC connection, and when it comes to hooking it all up, you want to make sure that you're using HDMI 2.0a cables too, simply because any earlier standard cable will not carry the HDR signal.

Once your cabling is all in order, you then want to enable HDMI-CEC in both your TV and your AV receiver as this will allow your AV unit to stream audio from your TV, without taking the video stream along for the ride too. Naturally, implementation of HDMI-CEC will vary between the various brands of TVs and AV units so give your user manuals a flick through so you know how to access it.

After you've paired your AV unit to your TV in HDMI-CEC mode, you then want to set your AV unit to receive from ‘TV' (rather than BD, DVD or whatever other preset you have). Once you've done all of this, turn on your PS4/PS4 Pro and you should now have all that 4K HDR goodness going through your nice expensive TV without any degradation, while your surround sound audio is pumped through your surround sound speaker setup." (http://www.psu.com/feature/31139/ps4-hdr-update-how-to-fix-ps4-pro-surround-sound)
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I followed this guide but I don't know what your expertise have to say about this. Thank you for answering my questions.

Oh and my receiver has support for DTS-HD and True Dolby HD, don't know if that is relevant.
 
What I would do in this instance (if possible) is connect the PS4 to the TV directly, then run optical from PS4 to Sony Cinema system. I have one similar to yourself and I find its "slightly" better in reducing audio lag. Then of course select Optical as output on PS4 and then Dolby Digital or DTS.

Like me, you cannot currently get the "absolute best" audio with that setup
 
Is it a huge difference in Lossy 5.1 PCM and lossless when playing games and watching movies?

And for the time being, is this the best I can have it hooked up until I get a new receiver?

About the specs, I will have to check the box, I thought I saw that it supported those formats, huh.
 
Is it a huge difference in Lossy 5.1 PCM and lossless when playing games and watching movies?

And for the time being, is this the best I can have it hooked up until I get a new receiver?

About the specs, I will have to check the box, I thought I saw that it supported those formats, huh.

The difference isn't night and day no. The next big "jump" in quality that you will see is when you go from a Cinema System to a proper AV Receiver with a better speaker setup. But thats more down to the quality of the systems than the sound sent through them.
 
Hey guys need a little help here. So I have my ps4 hooked up through optical on an old ass receiver (Yamaha HTR-5750) from around 2002 or so lol. I have a left, right, center and a sub connected.

1.What should I choose for audio format on ps4 settings...linear pcm, bitstream(dolby), or bitstream (dts)?

2.When choosing primary output port as optical also in ps4 settings it gives me 3 checkboxes. Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS 5.1 and AAC.....Which ones should I check?

3. My receiver has different audio settings. Pro Logic, Pro Logic IIx, DTS, 6ch Stereo, 6ch Stereo with Cinema DSP..... Which should I choose?

Thank you!
 
Hey guys need a little help here. So I have my ps4 hooked up through optical on an old ass receiver (Yamaha HTR-5750) from around 2002 or so lol. I have a left, right, center and a sub connected.

1.What should I choose for audio format on ps4 settings...linear pcm, bitstream(dolby), or bitstream (dts)?

2.When choosing primary output port as optical also in ps4 settings it gives me 3 checkboxes. Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS 5.1 and AAC.....Which ones should I check?

3. My receiver has different audio settings. Pro Logic, Pro Logic IIx, DTS, 6ch Stereo, 6ch Stereo with Cinema DSP..... Which should I choose?

Thank you!

1. DTS
2. DTS 5.1
3. DTS
 
ya PCM>DTS>DD, but you can't have 5.1 lossless PCM if you are using optical. So DTS it is. Tell you the truth, I can't tell the difference between PCM and DTS.
Ive used this receiver for so long and never properly set anything I dont think. I would just be like yea it bumps its good lol. Thanks for the info. Ill upgrade one of these days.
 
Whaaaat. I'm glad I read this thread because I also thought PCM over HDMI only outputted stereo.

Guess its time to mess with my receiver's settings (Yamaha RV-V479).
 
My receiver sound sounds worse under PCM. I'm using a 2.1 receiver set up though. Only console that sounds worse with the linear option via HDMI.
 
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