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[la flama blanca]

NOooo he was banned UGH

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Good night sweet prince, may joy fill your every orifice.

 

[effzee]

What is she teaching them? How to squeeze their left thumb?

Meant reading to them. Good catch though. Now my argument is invalid.

Oh god he actually kept going.


If you only you knew the dirty things your mother did so that you could be here today typing all this venom.

Don't agree with everything he said but how is what his mother does in her bedroom with her husband the same as what Sasha does or did? Porn is not the same as two parents having sex or two adults having sex.

 

[Orayn]

I'm sure his internet crusade will continue elsewhere. Fight on, brave warrior or morality!

 

[CornBurrito]

If I was a father, I'd definitely like to be notified......

For what reason?

 

[ihearthawthats]

so being a pornstar automatically makes you a bad person?

a lot of people that aren't porn stars or prostitutes fuck for money.

Spoiler

herman cain knows what i'm talkin bout.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Don't agree with everything he said but how is what his mother does in her bedroom with her husband the same as what Sasha does or did? Porn is not the same as two parents having sex or two adults having sex.

Let's not act like our fathers were the first and last men to get some Sasha time with our mothers.

 

[Orayn]

Don't agree with everything he said but how is what his mother does in her bedroom with her husband the same as what Sasha does or did? Porn is not the same as two parents having sex or two adults having sex.

Okay, fine. What if a teacher was a swinger in their private life, who had sex with a similar frequency and a similar number of partners?

 

[effzee]

Let's not act like our fathers were the first and last men to get some Sasha time with our mothers.

And? This isn't about how many men she has been with but what her profession is or was. You mother could have been with 1 man or 10 but that's not her profession nor is that what defines you. If you are a porn star that is what you are. You sell your sexuality for money. You sell your body. I just fail to see how porn is as normal as two people having sex or the same as someone's mother having sex with their husband.

Also I wonder what qualified her to be the school's choice? Just that she is famous? Does she have some special talent in encouraging kids to read? Why is she better able to reach the kids than say any other teacher would be? I assumed that when schools bring in guests its because they want the kids to know what the guest does so to maybe inspire the kids to read, study, or do better in school. Her role was basically for the school's benefit and of no benefit to the kids themselves.

 

[Aizu_Itsuko]

Just to be clear, this girl was a whore, as she had sex for money; that's the very definition of a whore.

"Pornstar" is just an euphemism.

Adult people who have sex can do whatever they want and enjoy and there's nothing wrong with it.


Also there's nothing wrong with her reading books to children either, except that she shouldn't get attention for being an ex-whore.

 

[Dennis]

Also there's nothing wrong with her reading books to children either, except that she shouldn't get attention for being an ex-whore.

Well, strictly speaking she is not an ex-whore.

Its just that now she is an attention whore.

*rimshot*

 

[effzee]

That's just me being honest about my own perspective. I tend not to fret about things that have literally zero chance of affecting anything beyond my own fears and social mores. I see it as handholding because I personally don't think it's a meaningful response beyond upholding some useless moral system that, yes, is largely tied to old religious beliefs that have stuck with modern culture.

To you its a useless moral system. Good for you. Maybe to you its backwards to think less of porn stars. Maybe you wouldn't even care if one of your kids became a porn star. But that is you and you are assuming anyone with any different opinion or moral code is either conservative or needs their hands to be held.

I'm not going to say it's exactly the same thing as people getting mad about a gay man reading to their kids, but it taps into that same vein of moralist fear. If he isn't reading to them graphic descriptions of him fucking his partner in the ass, does it really matter? No, but there are a lot of people in this world that would have a problem anyway.

And its def not the same nor has anyone even suggested as much. Now you are just assuming that those parents who are opposed to a porn star reading to their kids are the same parents who would be opposed to a gay person reading to their kids and thus also conservative and religious.

The school doesn't invite a gay person to speak to kids or read to them because they are gay. They invite someone, again I assume cause I really don't get it, because they can get through to the kids and encourage them to learn to read and study. Maybe someone famous the kids look up to. Or someone who specializes in getting through to kids.

 

[effzee]

Okay, fine. What if a teacher was a swinger in their private life, who had sex with a similar frequency and a similar number of partners?

I guess I am missing the point so I am going to drop it. I fail to see how people can equate what people do in their private sexual life to what porn-stars do. Or maybe I missed the memo on when that became the same thing and thus no one should have a problem with a porn-star reading to their kid.

 

[marrec]

Also I wonder what qualified her to be the school's choice? Just that she is famous? Does she have some special talent in encouraging kids to read? Why is she better able to reach the kids than say any other teacher would be? I assumed that when schools bring in guests its because they want the kids to know what the guest does so to maybe inspire the kids to read, study, or do better in school. Her role was basically for the school's benefit and of no benefit to the kids themselves.

Anybody and everybody should encourage kids to read, regardless of their past professions (except for in extreme cases Reductio ad Ridiculum GAF). We shouldn't be associating some nice woman reading to a bunch of kids with some horrible media frenzy. To say that because she's a semi-famous porn/movie star makes the less beneficial to the kids is wrong and overlooking the simple point that having a pretty lady read to them might give kids the Right kind of association with reading.

Instead, they've decided to give kids the wrong association by presenting what happened in a bad light.

I despise the parents who are making a stink about this.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

I just curious... what does Sasha bring to the table that their teacher, who is educated in teaching kids and the public pays to do so, can't? I really find it more interesting that this school is some kind of PR farm for celebrities to show that they "care". Get back to teaching the kids.

 

[DY_nasty]

I just curious... what does Sasha bring to the table that their teacher, who is educated in teaching kids and the public pays to do so, can't? I really find it more interesting that this school is some kind of PR farm for celebrities to show that they "care". Get back to teaching the kids.

Its Compton. I'm just glad somebody showed up...

 

[marrec]

I just curious... what does Sasha bring to the table that their teacher, who is educated in teaching kids and the public pays to do so, can't? I really find it more interesting that this school is some kind of PR farm for celebrities to show that they "care". Get back to teaching the kids.

As someone with a child in school, having someone besides the teacher read to kids shows them that reading isn't just something that boring teachers do. It can also be something that other, cooler people do. It's important to show them that reading is something for everyone to do all the time.

 

[Princess Carl]

Sooooo....

Devolution for mod? (Yes)

 

[PrivateWHudson]

As someone with a child in school, having someone besides the teacher read to kids shows them that reading isn't just something that boring teachers do. It can also be something that other, cooler people do. It's important to show them that reading is something for everyone to do all the time.

But what makes her cooler than the teacher? Nothing the kids in the class should have ever seen. I could maybe see that with an athlete, or an actor that has done some TV or PG movies, but Sasha Grey? I don't buy it being about anything more than a PR stunt that probably disrupts the daily lesson plan.

Edit: Plus having a kindergartner of my own, I really don't think kids are that jaded by first grade to think that teachers aren't cool.

 

[daycru]

But what makes her cooler than the teacher? Nothing the kids in the class should have ever seen. I could maybe see that with an athlete, or an actor that has done some TV or PG movies, but Sasha Grey? I don't buy it being about anything more than a PR stunt that probably disrupts the daily lesson plan.

Even if you don't know her semen-related work, she's young, beautiful, and fun. Not the stodgy people always making them do boring shit. Maybe the kids think reading is fun if she does.

 

[RumblingRosco]

But what makes her cooler than the teacher? Nothing the kids in the class should have ever seen. I could maybe see that with an athlete, or an actor that has done some TV or PG movies, but Sasha Grey? I don't buy it being about anything more than a PR stunt that probably disrupts the daily lesson plan.

Edit: Plus having a kindergartner of my own, I really don't think kids are that jaded by first grade to think that teachers aren't cool.

The fact that she isn't a teacher.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Getting someone new to read does engage the kids more. And she could be showing that reading is also for hot and sexy people as well. Much like Danica McKellar tries to do for math.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

Getting someone new to read does engage the kids more. And she could be showing that reading is also for hot and sexy people as well. Much like Danica McKellar tries to do for math.

But Danica brings something to the table, she can probably out math most high-school math teachers. That is the definition of a role model. Also I believe the "sexy" aspect of her persona is targeted toward teen girls, not first graders. I haven't seen anything on Sasha's resume to make me think she is a role model.

Anyway, my gripe isn't with Sasha as much as the part where the school says that they have a bunch of celebrities come in to read to the kids. I may be wrong, but I'd feel that it was more genuine if they had community leaders, small business owners, and what not show up to read. I'd love to see if it has in fact helped, and if the reading scores are up since they started using the school to help celebrities feel good about helping the kids.

 

[marrec]

But what makes her cooler than the teacher? Nothing the kids in the class should have ever seen. I could maybe see that with an athlete, or an actor that has done some TV or PG movies, but Sasha Grey? I don't buy it being about anything more than a PR stunt that probably disrupts the daily lesson plan.

Edit: Plus having a kindergartner of my own, I really don't think kids are that jaded by first grade to think that teachers aren't cool.

But she disrupted the lesson plan to read to them. You cannot say that reading to children is bad, even if it is Sasha Grey. (My personal view on her is that it's cool she's making herself bigger than Porn, way to go.) And okay, maybe they aren't Jaded enough to think that the teacher is inherently 'uncool' but having someone new, fun and pretty come read to them reinforces what the teachers have been trying to do. That's all.

Sure, it's a PR stunt too, but I wouldn't discount that she genuinely likes reading to kids either. She's actually a pretty cool person.

 

[neutralgamer02]

What in the world happened in this thread? Seriously, teachers have sex and read to kids as well. Should only people who don't have sex read to kids or something? Get over it.

 

[NoRéN]

What in the world happened in this thread? Seriously, teachers have sex and read to kids as well. Should only people who don't have sex read to kids or something? Get over it.

No, man. Stop and picture the dirtiest, most despicable things you've done to a woman in the bedroom. Now picture her going to read to kids. Kids, man! That same mouth that has done those thing, now reading Dr. Seuss? Fuck that!

 

[Trent Strong]

Sooooo....

Devolution for mod? (Yes)

Good God, no.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

They are teaching her to read

oh snaps /thread.

 

[Like the hat?]

I don't see why this is possibly a big deal.

The only thing people should care about is the program itself, not who is doing the reading.

 

[Jhriad]

And? This isn't about how many men she has been with but what her profession is or was.

So?

A former legal profession is irrelevant to whether or not parents should be notified if the profession in question isn't related to why the person is there. Someone could have worked at Planned Parenthood previously but if that prior profession is never discussed with the children it has no bearing on the individual's fitness for teaching children.

 

[way more]

This is when the parents of that class learn who the cool parents are and who the crazy fundies are.


Also, I'd let her babysit my kids. Hell, I'd let her be my dental hygienist or loan officer. She seems pretty grounded.

 

[Trent Strong]

She seems like a very morally grounded person and I admire her enthusiasm. She is not ashamed of her past and she has no reason to be. Any publicity for a program such as the one she is partaking in is a good thing.

She has plenty of reason to be ashamed of her past. Her movies encourage men to think of women as nothing more than objects. Do you imagine that most feminists are pro-porn star? Because they're not.

 

[dead souls]

What in the world happened in this thread? Seriously, teachers have sex and read to kids as well. Should only people who don't have sex read to kids or something? Get over it.

I'm not on the side of all the misogynists in the thread, and Sasha Grey reading to school kids doesn't particularly bother me, but this is a ridiculously stupid argument.

The difference between Sasha Grey and the average teacher is that you can't find millions of sexually explicit pics/vids of the average teacher all over the internet.

 

[Princess Carl]

She has plenty of reason to be ashamed of her past. Her movies encourage men to think of women as nothing more than objects. Do you imagine that most feminists are pro-porn star? Because they're not.

That NBA player has plenty of reasons to be ashamed of his past. His career encourages kids to think of only money and fame instead of getting a good job.

The difference between Sasha Grey and the average teacher is that you can't find millions of sexually explicit pics/vids of the average teacher all over the internet.

I didn't know the kids were on the computer when she was reading to them in the classroom.

 

[low-G]

I didn't know she had a face.

What? Her deepthroat videos are the best.

 

[SIRF]

I don't understand why people get so worked up about these situations. Honestly my main concern as someone who is in education would be the qualifications of celebs to teach my children, regardless of them being pornstars or basketball players. Maybe this is my bias but celebs don't strike me as the most intellectually inclined people, even though reading to kids probably doesn't require too much effort on their part.

I would like to point out that the more important concern should be "Does having high profile individuals read to children help them read?". To my knowledge, there has never been anything that shows it does.

To you its a useless moral system. Good for you. Maybe to you its backwards to think less of porn stars. Maybe you wouldn't even care if one of your kids became a porn star. But that is you and you are assuming anyone with any different opinion or moral code is either conservative or needs their hands to be held.

I think the problem here is not useless moral systems but different ones. You are right that the vast majority of the people don't morally value porn and would be offended by their children being taught by a porn star or having their children become porn stars. However, that being said, people being offended doesn't in any way validate the belief that porn is wrong or porn stars are immoral. Your entitled to your own views, just as the other example that was brought up about someone who may think homosexuality is immoral and therefore would not want that person teaching their children. Now granted homosexuality is not a profession but I don't think that's the issue here. The issue here is that you have to show what is wrong with porn itself, or more specifically selling sexuality. I personally am against the porn industry due to all the abuse that goes on in the unregulated business but that doesn't make the act of selling sex itself wrong. If done properly, with regulations and assurance that abuse would not occur, I don't see anything wrong with it. Yours or other's personal morals may be against it, mine are not. Just as we would not stop an individual who is gay from teaching in schools based on personal moral beliefs, nor should stop porn stars unless you can show why selling sex itself is bad.

That NBA player has plenty of reasons to be ashamed of his past. His career encourages kids to think of only money and fame instead of getting a good job.

I just wanted to quote this and say I agree with this wholeheartedly. Sexuality seems to be the hot button topic but what about all the other messages that are sent to kids, especially with the recent Penn State situation and how sports seem to reach almost worship status. What type of message do we send when we idolize sports and pay athletes infinitely more than people like teachers who work their whole lives trying to make sure our kids have a good one? I mean, personally I'm much more morally against athletes being so much and even then, I would not be against them reading to my children, provided it actually benefits the children and not simply for marketing.

 

[Hylian7]

I just read the icqpimp meltdown. It's like there was a Dragona-equivalent of the bat signal in the sky.

 

[Dead Man]

Holy shit at icqpimp. LOL

 

[hsin]

Yeah, Sasha is definitely pretty intelligent and grounded. LOL @ the school rep's denial though.

 

[triplestation]

I think someone had an epiphany or something. Those photos are odd to look at. Yes, because she is a porn star. She had all holes infiltrated and filled. She's been gagged. Cock slapped. Quadruple teamed. On film. Now she's teaching children how to read.

 

[SapientWolf]

She has plenty of reason to be ashamed of her past. Her movies encourage men to think of women as nothing more than objects. Do you imagine that most feminists are pro-porn star? Because they're not.

If anyone is an object in her movies it's the men. For the most part, they're forgettable and interchangeable. But large groups of people seem to enjoy her work so much that they'll buy pornography just because she's in it. Like, with actual money.

 

[MetalAlien]

Sooooo....

Devolution for mod? (Yes)

She already has the power, might as well give her the red name.

 

[Kinyou]

I wonder if anyone would have problem if one of the Jackass guys read for the kids. I mean they basically degraded themselves on a similar level.

 

[MetalAlien]

I wonder if anyone would have problem if one of the Jackass guys read for the kids. I mean they basically degraded themselves on a similar level.

But it's not porn though. Don't completely understand it myself but pornstar has about the same stigma at drug addict.

 

[Snakeyes]

This is non-news really. It's not like she was banging the teach in front of the kids.

 

[Kinyou]

But it's not porn though. Don't completely understand it myself but pornstar has about the same stigma at drug addict.

I wonder if that's just the american society, can't really think of a similar case in europe though.

Also, a tad late but:

ban me for calling a WHORE a WHORE. Ban me for calling someone who gets payed (paid? excuse my spelling) to have sex,who ahs sex to get paid/payed, a whore? Sighs

 

[vordhosbn]

GAF sure does care a lot about random porn stars.

Do you guys think they call her a 'lady' in those videos? Have you seen their titles? She is perfectable responsible for her own character.

 

[clemenx]

If anyone is an object in her movies it's the men. For the most part, they're forgettable and interchangeable. But large groups of people seem to enjoy her work so much that they'll buy pornography just because she's in it. Like, with actual money.

It goes both ways really. Do you know how much porn is in the internet? Not every girl gets famous and wealthy out of it and at the same time there are more than a few male performers who are household names.
Of course the ratio favors the women but it isn't that black and white.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

GAF sure does care a lot about random porn stars.

Do you guys think they call her a 'lady' in those videos? Have you seen their titles? She is perfectable responsible for her own character.

What are you trying to say?

 

[Kerrby]

This kid knows what's up.

I think what's more alarming is that there appears to be a ghost in this photo.