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Best Tetris Player You Will Ever See

handofg0d said:
The video isn't as good because this was filmed at random (a friend of mine spotted this dude in an arcade and started filming him.)

Totally fucking nuts - definitely on par with this guy, perhaps better, you be the judge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMMFIBUBWA
Ok, I'll be the judge..

The guy playing in that video is ZAB, while he's definitely a good player he's definitely not better than Jin8. Jin8 is the only one to have achieved a GM rank in TGM3 (something he achieved in early August, more than two years after the games release), the performance in the video you linked is a MK-MV rank at best (although I don't know for sure since the guy stopped recording before the rank was awarded).

Jin8s final time in the video mentioned in this thread is 04'54"21, ZABs time is 05'33"37 - that's almost 40 seconds slower.

If you take a look at the machine to the right in the video you linked to, the highscores are visible. You can see players like Jin8 (signed in as J ), KAN, and 14 competing about the top spots - no ZAB in the top 3. This is also consistent with the online ranking table over at the following URL:

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~tetris_holic/ranking_frame.htm

(click "CLASSIC" and then "MASTER" for the rankings for the mode they're playing in these videos)

ZAB is good, but Jin8 is the best.
 
sleeping_dragon said:
:lol

seriously, that guys is amazing.period.

Oh ok, sorry! I'm not good at detecting net sarcasm. Plus we had a whole influx of juniors and lately I've seen some pretty silly posts.

Yeah, after the 3 min mark, I just can't fathom how one could do that.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
You can see the seconds counting in real time on the game clock. It's not sped up.

Fucking amazing.

It shouldnt be a problem to speed just the Tetris playing field up and leave the time counter and everything else in real-time. It can be real too of course, but just saying.
 
test_account said:
It shouldnt be a problem to speed just the Tetris playing field up and leave the time counter and everything else in real-time. It can be real too of course, but just saying.
It is real.
 
Is there any way of playing this version (or a similar version) of Tetris on PC? I would love to see if I could last more than 10 seconds at his speed.
 
zooL said:
Read his previous comments in this thread. He knows what he's talking about.

Well.. he does see 3 Tetris pieces in advance and he can hold pieces too, but even with this help its damn crazy to make it. I know there are many crazy Tetris players out there so it might be real indeed, but i still have some doubts. But anyway, it looks amazing! :)

dude said:
It's an official video by the company who made the game...

True, but that doesnt automaticly means its 100% real ;) But i dont belive its all fake, i just put a question mark at the speed. Its so fast, it must be a special pattern thats been practiced so much that its turned into reflexes instead of thinking or something.
 
test_account said:
How can you tell 100% sure?
Because I'm playing the TGM games every day, I know the game very well and if you know the game you can tell that the video is real. There are tons of very good videos of this game available and none of them are fake, in fact I fail to see how they could be fake considering the hardware it's running on (it's not a hacked platform).

Jin8 achieved the GM rank for the first time at July 28th with a final time of 05'13"53

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Shortly after that he failed the Promotional Exam and got pushed back to MM rank again, but throughout august he has achieved the GM rank again many times - with both CLASSIC and WORLD rules no less. He has been working hard on improving his times.

Mihara (the designer of the game) has been talking about recording a video together with Jin8 on his blog since this happened - this is the video that was released this friday.

Jin8s best GM time right now is 04'53"53, the time in the official video is 04'54'21 - not his best run, but pretty damn close.

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Also, to people who say this is impossibly fast I have only one thing to say. The MASTER mode is not even the fastest mode in the game. MASTER starts out slow but gets faster as you progress up to level 999 (where it ends). SHIRASE starts out really fast, and then gets even faster as you progress up to level 1300 (which is the current limit, Mihara has hinted that it can go even further but no one has achieved this yet)

Sadly I do not have a video of Jin8 playing SHIRASE, but here's another player playing it and he reaches level 1300 within 04'27"58, close to half a minute faster than Jin8 has achieved in MASTER, and you gotta remember that this is 300 levels more to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzD-mnvecNg

If you're gonna talk about a game, maybe you should get a clue about the game in question.
 
Lee N said:
If you're gonna talk about a game, maybe you should get a clue about the game in question.

I'm talking about the video, not the game itself. It doesnt matter what platform the game is running on as long as there is a video thats being shown. With today's tech there is no problem to edit/doctor any movies.

But thanks for the detailed answer. I guess i have to belive its 100% real. As said, i have seen crazy Tetris players before so i'm not in total disbelive, but i still have a small question mark on how its possible to make it at this insane speed, and especially the invisible mode (does it follow a pattern or something?). Its like its reflexes where the bricks are going. Pratice makes champions, i guess this might be one of those cases :)
 
test_account said:
I'm talking about the video, not the game itself. It doesnt matter what platform the game is running on as long as there is a video thats being shown.
Well, you can't say "that's fake!" if you have never played the game in question. Simply because you don't know what you can and can't do in the game.

You're not the only offender, or even the worst one.. but it really annoys me when people with no clue whatsoever about a game in question starts dictating what you can and can't do - they're just making shit up because they don't know.

I'm telling you, this is real - and I do know about the game. Very well, in fact. Whether you chose to believe me or not is up to you, but ask yourself what you know about the game, are you qualified to pass judgement?
 
Lee N said:
Well, you can't say "that's fake!" if you have never played the game in question. Simply because you don't know what you can and can't do in the game.

You're not the only offender, or even the worst one.. but it really annoys me when people with no clue whatsoever about a game in question starts dictating what you can and can't do - they're just making shit up because they don't know.

I'm telling you, this is real - and I do know about the game. Very well, in fact. Whether you chose to believe me or not is up to you, but ask yourself what you know about the game, are you qualified to pass judgement?

Besides from being able to see 3 bricks in advance and hold 1 brick, what makes this game any different from any other Tetris games? What can it do that other Tetris games cant?

I dont know why you get angry at people who dont belive it 100% at first sight. In my case, it doesnt matter what game it is. It could be any game, its the speed that i question, not the game itself. I never said "its fake!", i said i put a question mark at the speed and that being real. Who am i judging?
 
test_account said:
Its Tetris, aint it?
That's your first error right there. Tetris is not a constant, it has changed alot over the years and there are several different styles to it.

Arika style with ARS rotation is verry different from the guideline SRS rotation. And there are alot of differences aside from that. DAS, ARE, IHS, IRS, Zangi, Twists, and so on. I'm swinging with alot of acronyms with this post and I'm not gonna go into detail because it would become a very long post. Instead, if you want to know more, head over to the TetrisConcept wiki.

http://www.tetrisconcept.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Instead of simply stating that it looks fake, when obviously you have no idea. You could try to dig out some real information about the game. The TC wiki is a good start, this article is also a pretty good read if you're interested:

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/tgm-en/tgm.html
 
Lee N said:
That's your first error right there. Tetris is not a constant, it has changed alot over the years and there are several different styles to it.

Arika style with ARS rotation is verry different from the guideline SRS rotation. And there are alot of differences aside from that. DAS, ARE, IHS, IRS, Twists, and so on. I'm swinging with alot of acronyms with this post and I'm not gonna go into detail because it would become a very long post. Instead, if you want to know more, head over to the TetrisConcept wiki.

http://www.tetrisconcept.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Instead of simply stating that it looks fake, when obviously you have no idea. You could try to dig out some real information about the game. The TC wiki is a good start, this article is also a pretty good read if you're interested:

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/tgm-en/tgm.html

Ok, but even with its twist or roll etc. its still the same concept, move the bricks to the left or right, rotate them and make them fit. And as said, its the speed i question. No matter how you turn the bricks, they must still fit and at this speed, its insane.

The last page, i remember that video (from 2001). That one i have no problem beliving is real. Still damn fast speed, but not as fast as the other, or atleast it doesnt look like it.

But ok, i must admit, you have convinced me to belive its real. But damn, explain me how its possible to play invisible Tetris at that speed :)
 
test_account said:
explain me how its possible to play invisible Tetris at that speed :)
Well, for one there are many features in the TGM that allow you to play at, and even push you into, high speed.

The seven pieces each have individual sounds as they appear in the "next" window, your brain process the sounds faster and you can fix your eyes elsewhere. You're using more of your senses.

Then there's the IRS, a system which allow you to start your input even before the next piece spawns. If you hold down a rotation button the piece will spawn already rotated, if you hold down your stick it will cancel the DAS and shift immediately towards that direction as it spawns.

Three rotation buttons, A for CCW, B for CW, and C for CCW, this means you can slam A quickly followed by C to perform a double rotation.

Hard drop doesn't lock the piece, this means you have a few frames to adjust the piece after dropping it. This allows for Zangi moves (named after Zangief in the street fighter games, because of a certain move of his)

TGM_Legend_Sonic_Drop_2.gif


Lock delay is also different, and you can cancel lock delay by manually locking

These are just a few things that allow you to play faster compared to other Tetris games.. I could go on all day talking about TGM, but I don't have to since there are plenty of good information readily available at several sources.

This for example:

http://www.tetrisconcept.com/wiki/index.php?title=TGM_legend
 
Lee N said:
The seven pieces each have individual sounds as they appear in the "next" window
Didn't pay attention to that... That's really nice. Color is already a good clue (and I couldn't probably play well the shirase part where color disappear, I really need colors), but I guess sound is even more efficient at this speed...

Lee N said:
Then there's the IRS, a system which allow you to start your input even before the next piece spawns. If you hold down a rotation button the piece will spawn already rotated, if you hold down your stick it will cancel the DAS and shift immediately towards that direction as it spawns.

Hard drop doesn't lock the piece, this means you have a few frames to adjust the piece after dropping it. This allows for Zangi moves (named after Zangief in the street fighter games, because of a certain move of his)
The lack of many parts of the IRS, and especially the time to rotate/move the piece after the drop really REALLY bothers me in Tetris DS...
 
Lee N said:
Well, for one there are many features in the TGM that allow you to play at, and even push you into, high speed.

The seven pieces each have individual sounds as they appear in the "next" window, your brain process the sounds faster and you can fix your eyes elsewhere. You're using more of your senses.

Thanks for the detailed description. Who knew Tetris could be so advanced. After reading this it makes more sense. Now i can belive its real so i take back my doubts. Sound can indeed be picked up faster. Its amazing how people can use their senses. So i just have one more thing to say then, this Tetris player is amazing! :)
 
Lee N said:
Ok, I'll be the judge..

The guy playing in that video is ZAB, while he's definitely a good player he's definitely not better than Jin8. Jin8 is the only one to have achieved a GM rank in TGM3 (something he achieved in early August, more than two years after the games release), the performance in the video you linked is a MK-MV rank at best (although I don't know for sure since the guy stopped recording before the rank was awarded).

Jin8s final time in the video mentioned in this thread is 04'54"21, ZABs time is 05'33"37 - that's almost 40 seconds slower.

If you take a look at the machine to the right in the video you linked to, the highscores are visible. You can see players like Jin8 (signed in as J ), KAN, and 14 competing about the top spots - no ZAB in the top 3. This is also consistent with the online ranking table over at the following URL:

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~tetris_holic/ranking_frame.htm

(click "CLASSIC" and then "MASTER" for the rankings for the mode they're playing in these videos)

ZAB is good, but Jin8 is the best.

Most informative post ever.
Thanks.
 
Wow. That is some crazy shit right there, especially after 5:11.

The guy looks like he has alien fingers. That stick is the same color and button placement that reminds me of a saturn stick.
 
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