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Wrong BGS boss.

 

[Represent.]

Well there goes my hype for the game. That is ridiculous. How much time do you think I have lol

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm sure I'm not alone in saying this.....but bragging about how massive a game is these days just isn't a selling point anymore. Ubisoft cops shit for this all the time. Probably in the minority, but gaming is a 'pass the time' hobby, not an all day career for a lot of us and there's no way you can commit to playing this all the time before another big title comes along and takes that attention away. Why not split this up into seasons or DLC? Re-ignite the hype each time. We already know Bethesda has no qualms about reselling the same game over and over again

This game leaves it up to you. Entire solar systems can be ignored if you want. But its there. Thats just to have a game set in space at scale. Just focus on the few things you want to do then.

If it wasnt that big it wouldnt be set in space at the correct scale.

Its like Korok seeds. Dont get them all.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

 

[GigaBowser]

Oh yeah wells it took me 350 hours 100% TOTK pal

 

[Diogodx]

I have 7k hours in Skyrim.

I think Starfield will be >200 hours for my first character without mods. Then I hope to expend years testing and playing with mods.

 

[skyfall]

This is a bad thing

 

[MMaRsu]

Is that the same boss, Todd Howard, a well-known liar, who also claimed that there are "a thousand planets" in the game that you can visit???

????

There are a thousand planets in the game

 

[MarkMe2525]

Incredible mindset some people have where they are told that the main quest is around 40 hours but there is 100's of hours of "side content", and their response is "iT takes too LoNg", "I LoSt mY hYpE". Like my guys, side content is optional.

 

[bender]

I have 7k hours in Skyrim.

 

[Stuart360]

Incredible mindset some people have where they are told that the main quest is around 40 hours but there is 100's of hours of "side content", and their response is "iT takes too LoNg", "I LoSt mY hYpE". Like my guys, side content is optional.

Just certain people trying too hard.
Anyone who has played Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc will know BGS games are easily 100+ hours if you do most of the content.

 

[MMaRsu]

This is a bad thing

no this is the type of games they make. Plenty of 20 hour linear games to play, so have fun playing those.

 

[twilo99]

I have 7k hours in Skyrim.

That sounds kinda scary

 

[M.W.]

Honestly, there's too many games coming out to spend that much time on one. I'll probably get around 20 hours in before I move on.

 

[twilo99]

I think that’s why people say that they can play this for years..

 

[Mozzarella]

Can't wait for the mods.

 

[Pedro Motta]

I love the mass schizophrenia in NeoGAF about the length of the games. Either 40 hours is too long or 200h just the right amount of playtime.

 

[ajanke]

This is one game where i'm going to beeline through the main quest first and then do a second playthrough for side stuff (the 'forever game' part). Otherwise you might never finish the story.

I have never done this. I wonder if I should. It sounds appealing but that's such a different way to play for me lol. I get worried I wont go back for the second playthrough or something and I will miss out.

 

[ajanke]

Can't wait for the mods.

Vehicles baby woooo

 

[K2D]

But. Does. It. Respect. The. Players. Time. ?.

I'm hoping it's still fantasy. In space

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Bad news for those with a life.

...Good news for those wanting to escape one.

 

[sainraja]

I don't believe this game is randomly generating content for each player or anything like that.

We are all getting the same game.

Hmm, I thought if it is procedurally generated, the chances of us going through the same exact elements/layout would be slim at a given time—I am sure there will be some overlap. I know we're getting the same game with areas that are handcrafted and procedurally generated. OR maybe my understanding of procedurally generated is completely wrong.

 

[Kumomeme]

plot twist:

he is AFK lot of time

 

[xX4thmanXx]

This game leaves it up to you. Entire solar systems can be ignored if you want. But its there. Thats just to have a game set in space at scale. Just focus on the few things you want to do then.

If it wasnt that big it wouldnt be set in space at the correct scale.

Its like Korok seeds. Dont get them all.

Lol, good point. Although I do sometimes feel the pressure to do as much as possible in case I miss out on something good.
Also, excellent point on the Korok seeds, I gave up after a while, even when I saw them sitting there only metres away

 

[xX4thmanXx]

It's what their actual fans want.

I get it. I'm actually looking forward to playing this too but just the thought of it being so massive in scale is the draw it used to be. How about a tight 60 hours with compelling quests and missions, instead of over a 100 hours with fetch quests?

 

[Raven117]

Blah blah. Hype hype.

I’m still there day one, but let’s just get on with it.

 

[hybrid_birth]

Me when i 100% starfield:

 

[Ginzeen]

can't wait. im in agony.

 

[naguanatak]

Hmm, I thought if it is procedurally generated, the chances of us going through the same exact elements/layout would be slim at a given time—I am sure there will be some overlap. I know we're getting the same game with areas that are handcrafted and procedurally generated. OR maybe my understanding of procedurally generated is completely wrong.

There is a difference between procedurally and randomly generated.
2+2 always equals 4, that's a procedure. If one of the numbers is randomly generated, it might equal 3 or 10 or 23.859.
What they have done is procedurally generate the planets, so the general landscape should be the same for everyone (as in No Man's Sky, for example. 18 quintillion planets, but since 2+2=4, they are the same for everyone), but then added handcrafted scenarios/locations onto these that are randomly generated for each player.
That's the way I understand the system. Please correct me if anyone knows more

 

[Ozriel]

is this supposed to be a “good” thing

It’s A Bad Thing, and a radical departure from their previous hit game Skyrim that could be completed 100% in 12 hours

Bethesda so behind the times still trying to wow retards with this shit..LOL

Yep. So outdated.

Everyone knows the market has moved on from expansive games like Elden Ring and BG3.

 

[adamsapple]

There is a difference between procedurally and randomly generated.
2+2 always equals 4, that's a procedure. If one of the numbers is randomly generated, it might equal 3 or 10 or 23.859.
What they have done is procedurally generate the planets, so the general landscape should be the same for everyone (as in No Man's Sky, for example. 18 quintillion planets, but since 2+2=4, they are the same for everyone), but then added handcrafted scenarios/locations onto these that are randomly generated for each player.
That's the way I understand the system. Please correct me if anyone knows more

Yes, you're pretty much spot on.

It's a combination of some things being different for each player like placement of some locations and even quests, though that seems to be for side quests or radiant quests, the hand-crafted story/narrative content will be in the same places for all players from what I can find.

As explained in the direct by Starfield's lead technical producer, Jean-Francois Levesque, the game's system "builds the planet as the player approaches it." The game seemingly specks the planet with different types of "hand-crafted content," and it does so randomly and dynamically, so while you may find a questline in one planet, a friend of yours may find it in another.


When it comes to what type of content the planets will have, the direct mentioned different resources for players to gather, outposts, plants, and creatures, both peaceful and hostile. As previously mentioned, the procedural generation will also include questlines, meaning some side quests will be in different places in the world map per save file.


There will, of course, be some static planets that presumably don't change as they're particularly relevant to the story, or they've simply been purposefully hand-crafted in their entirety. A few of these were mentioned in the direct, such as Alpha Centauri, the hub of Starfield's central civilized faction (the UC), Mars, which houses the UC's largest mining facility, and Volii, home of Neon, the pleasure city, among many others.

Starfield's Thousand Planets Will Be Different For Every Player

Starfield's procedural generation with their thousand planets will happen on the fly, meaning planets will be different per every save file.

www.dualshockers.com

 

[ahtlas7]

Hopefully unique and fun content.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Phil Spencer needs to fire him if he has this much time on his hands as the head of a major studio with its first big post-acquisition release days before…

 

[TonyK]

I want it and I will play it day one, but it's really difficult for me to enjoy a game after the initial 50 hours. I prefer to play more shorter games than one for 150 hours.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Won't it "get old"? Maybe less content but more curated and polished would provide a better experience.
People seem to have less time to play and shorter attention spans nowadays.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I'm fine with this. Its heaven. Oblivion, fallout....all games I've sunk 180 hours into and not even noticed.

Im Grabbed by all the threads of exploration and insane side quests that happen...random town of cannibals anyone?

I just go and explore and before I know it I've spent a full day playing a game.

Bethesda games aren't like these new triple As that pad the shit out of their games with bloated cutscenes and shite that would fit better in a movie. Pointless side quests to hit 60 hours of gameplay. From experience these games arw something else...so grab the fleshlight....!

Lol

8 days!

Let's gooooo

 

[sono]

 

[mrmustard]

Damn, i wanted to wait with the WOW Classic Hardcore servers until i'm done with Starfield. Guess WOW comes next year then.

 

[DenchDeckard]

This is a bad thing

Not for a Bethesda game. We know exactly what we are getting and want it.

If you don't, and haven't enjoyed the others there's plenty of 20 hour game franchises that have now been stretched to 40 to 60 hours over there for you....

Enjoy the padding.

 

[Pedro Motta]

I think Starfield should be a cheaper 7/8 hours experience, with no padding and unnecessary side missions and long dialogues.

EDIT: Oh and remove all the cutscenes, those belong in a movie.

 

[balls of snow]

I should hope so.
Aiming for 500 hour behemoth myself. Gamepass gonna get some use.

 

[Pallas]

This doesn't excite me but the opposite... damn...

If this is one of those 150+ hour games then I will find myself retiring early from it and never go back.

The most I put into a game was Persona at around 108 hours. I could never find myself playing games like that a second time.

is this supposed to be a “good” thing

Murdering Spacecrabs in random Spacecave #937 for 100+ hours. That's going to be the reality of this game.

Bethsoft games are an inch deep and a mile wide. People shit on Ubisoft for making the same open world game over and over but Todd and Co. just take 5 times longer to do the same thing and it's hyped to fuck for some reason.

Tell me you have never played a Bethesda RPG without actually saying it.

 

[SmokedMeat]

is this supposed to be a “good” thing

It’s certainly not a bad thing.

 

[Pejo]

Main story is whatever. I'm buying into the sandbox they're creating for the glorious mods that will arise. I expect to see a Shrek MC proof-of-concept mod within 24 hours of release.

 

[AlteredForms]

Was this the same dude who gave out work sick notes for Fallout 76?

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Asked about the length of the game on today's official Xbox Gamescom stream, Hines says, "There's not an amount of time that I'm comfortable enough [to say] 'now you've played it enough Starfield to get what this game is'. I'm at 150-160 hours on my current playthrough, and I haven't even come close."

150+ hours only for the character creation screen to make a Todd is indeed a lot.
How about playing the game though ?

 

[adamsapple]

150+ hours only for the character creation screen to make a Todd is indeed a lot.
How about playing the game though ?

A brisk 6 hour campaign.

 

[blakdecaf]

Christ, who has time for this??

 

[Lokaum D+]

150 hours, the next 150 hours ll be the same as the previous 150 hours

 

[Northeastmonk]

it’s always this huge time sink until they start putting out articles like “speedrunner XYZ has finished Starfield in under two minutes”.