Square Triangle
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Yeah, the game would never come to market without your interest free loan to GameStop.
Its really the only place in NA worth preordering at http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=517320&page=1
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Beyond: Two Souls gameplay, screens and previews
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Its really the only place in NA worth preordering at http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=517320&page=1
MrChocolate
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That's debatable, but c'mon. I never said that TWD had bad writing, but GOTY level? No way.
indigo-cyclops
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People love The Walking Dead, so there's more leniency when criticizing it. People dislike Cage and therefore can;t look past it. The amount of acting talent in BEYOND, will catapult this above HR by miles. Story wise HR was average as a Thriller, but was panned for the bad script and campy acting. Combine that with the gameplay, and of course there's going to be issues. BEYOND again seems to do a lot more with the gameplay elements than HR did. We'll see how the story pans out, but I'm quite pleased with the direction in both gameplay, and acting. I'm tired of the people who can't get past their Cage hatred coming in these threads and saying the same thing.
Adventure fans are the lucky ones here, because we're seeing a lot of resurgence in many areas.
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Derrick01 said:
Dude, I'm sorry but you must accept that the whole notion of a zombie apocalypse is utterly ridiculous. The basic notion of the "living dead" flies in the face of biology and the laws of science, whilst the idea that a being that is by definition mindless and incapable of anything but the most basic animalistic behaviours could ever pose an insurmountable threat to an organized intelligent defence defies logic.
Its stupid. Fun, I admit, but deeply stupid.
The game isn't based on combat, though.
Adding a fighting game system to an adventure game doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It wouldn't add that much to the experience.
You must have a hard time dealing with video games with that kind of thinking. Or watching movies for that matter.
megabytecr
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Interested. Looking good.
Have to try Heavy Rain. Different games should always be welcome to widen game diversity.
Have to try Heavy Rain. Different games should always be welcome to widen game diversity.
The Praiseworthy
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OH.MY.GOD!!!
All I can think about is what they can do with the PS4 by it's end cycle if this what they were capable of the PS3 :O
Everything is this game screams for me (GOTY).
Without any doubt my most anticipated game of the holiday season.
All I can think about is what they can do with the PS4 by it's end cycle if this what they were capable of the PS3 :O
Everything is this game screams for me (GOTY).
Without any doubt my most anticipated game of the holiday season.
LowEndTorque
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Most of the criticism that I see people lobbing at HR is pointed at the gameplay rather than the story.
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Derrick01 said:
Nope, not a problem. I don't find it hard to suspend disbelief when I want to, the point I'm making is that at least I'm consistent about it.
You can't attack Heavy Rain's supernatural/quasi-scientific trappings out of hand whilst conveniently disregarding the equal implausibility of a zombie apocalypse.
But..I didn't do that? I just said it was a game with really bad writing and story planning.
petethepanda
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Stunning shots, if obviously at a massively higher resolution than we'll actually get in the game.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Low quality photos of snow upscaled in a 3,840 × 2,160 image.
At its normal size it looks perfectly fine:
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eternaLightness
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Can't wait for this!
MrCookiepants
Member
Seriously. Can it please be a bannable offense to complain about a game for being the type of game that it is?
So tired of having every thread shitted up by these people.
Dragon1893
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Can't wait for this. The story has me intrigued and I love Page, great actress. Hell, all the main characters have great actors.
I'm liking what i'm seeing so far, although that's what i thought about Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain too, before playing them through.
This however, seems to be more in the ballpark of what Cage can make entertaining, with a supernatural and action-y premise from the outset, hopefully not reliant on writing as much as Heavy Rain, and it looks more restrained than Fahrenheit (but again, it's early to say what curve ball he'll throw our way).
Graphics are impressive to say the least, although some of those screens are awfully large, so might as well call them bullshots, as i don't think it'll render at more than 720p (although they look upscaled, indeed.. why?); that snow in particular looks good as hell.
On the downside, the kid Jodie's skin looks a bit too complexed, she isn't 70, FFs.
EDIT: No Bokeh makes me sad.
This however, seems to be more in the ballpark of what Cage can make entertaining, with a supernatural and action-y premise from the outset, hopefully not reliant on writing as much as Heavy Rain, and it looks more restrained than Fahrenheit (but again, it's early to say what curve ball he'll throw our way).
Graphics are impressive to say the least, although some of those screens are awfully large, so might as well call them bullshots, as i don't think it'll render at more than 720p (although they look upscaled, indeed.. why?); that snow in particular looks good as hell.
On the downside, the kid Jodie's skin looks a bit too complexed, she isn't 70, FFs.
EDIT: No Bokeh makes me sad.
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Wow
nice to see the game having unified mechanics, instead of just a series of QTEs
looks interesting
nice to see the game having unified mechanics, instead of just a series of QTEs
looks interesting
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Thank the lawd.
Some spoilers here: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/21/delving-further-into-beyond-two-souls
hearing them talk about the scenes they saw and their overwhelming nature has me pumped. One of them says this is the most demanding role she's seen from Page and that the fidelity of the capture sessions resulted in subtle expressions she's never seen in games before. Apparently the engine is based on a cut down version of the one used for PS4? Again, pumped man
TGO
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Looks fantastic
on the subject of QTE's, I understand when a game throws random button presses on screen but what bugs me is when people complain about pressing the same buttons you would if it wasn't a QTE, like "OMG they made me press the jump button to jump and I missed it and died, stupid QTE"
As if it would be any different if it wasn't a QTE, you would still press the same button and you would still miss and die, or when theres a QTE that the controls are obvious, like taking down a medusa in GOW, left and right is to move left and right
And the attack buttons are to attack, people complain about them too
Or mash X to smash door is apparently a QTE that people have a problem with too, so what would people prefer, just press X once or hold down X perhaps?
what exactly are people expecting?
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Is it worth getting this for PS3 if a PS4 version is coming, sounds that way don't it?
on the subject of QTE's, I understand when a game throws random button presses on screen but what bugs me is when people complain about pressing the same buttons you would if it wasn't a QTE, like "OMG they made me press the jump button to jump and I missed it and died, stupid QTE"
As if it would be any different if it wasn't a QTE, you would still press the same button and you would still miss and die, or when theres a QTE that the controls are obvious, like taking down a medusa in GOW, left and right is to move left and right
And the attack buttons are to attack, people complain about them too
Or mash X to smash door is apparently a QTE that people have a problem with too, so what would people prefer, just press X once or hold down X perhaps?
what exactly are people expecting?
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Is it worth getting this for PS3 if a PS4 version is coming, sounds that way don't it?
All motion capture stuff is captured at 60fps or higher on all video games. I am pretty sure it will render at a lower rez and lower fps on the ps3 to keep a stable performance.
Domcorleone
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Game looks great.
I dont understand people in the "no gameplay, or just QTE" department either. The game is an interactive movie and seems to be more gamey than most interactive movies. You can control two different characters, solve puzzles, possess other characters, decide who lives or dies, make decisions... sounds like a game to me.
If you do not trust David Cage to give you a good story that is fine, but to dismiss the game as just a movie is silly. Its as interactive as it should be. Having a fleshed out combat system would not make sense if the game is only going to have a handful of action scenes.
A game like Uncharted which tries to blend film with gameplay runs into the problem where the gameplay mechanics go against the storyline hence the "mass murderer". But when you have a game like Beyond, HR or WD, the gameplay mechanics match what the developer wants you to feel within the context of the universe.
I dont understand people in the "no gameplay, or just QTE" department either. The game is an interactive movie and seems to be more gamey than most interactive movies. You can control two different characters, solve puzzles, possess other characters, decide who lives or dies, make decisions... sounds like a game to me.
If you do not trust David Cage to give you a good story that is fine, but to dismiss the game as just a movie is silly. Its as interactive as it should be. Having a fleshed out combat system would not make sense if the game is only going to have a handful of action scenes.
A game like Uncharted which tries to blend film with gameplay runs into the problem where the gameplay mechanics go against the storyline hence the "mass murderer". But when you have a game like Beyond, HR or WD, the gameplay mechanics match what the developer wants you to feel within the context of the universe.
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Derrick01 said:
Typically I find most people with issues (bolded in your quote) about HR's plotting seem to focus on its more fantastical apects. Whereas I treated it as videogame equivalent of a giallo thriller, and had no issues with it plot-wise.
Accept my apologies if this mis-characterises your complaints, but my fundamental point was that I consider setting the bar for suspension of disbelief at what is "normal" for the genre to be the only fair and proper thing to do.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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shinobi602
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Holy fuck, those screens...
lol, people are way to easely fooled by high rez bullshots.
is how you can expect those shots to look like
sub 720p at 30 fps (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-beyond-two-souls)
is how you can expect those shots to look like
sub 720p at 30 fps (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-beyond-two-souls)
Domcorleone
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lol, people are way to easely fooled by high rez bullshots.
is how you can expect those shots to look like
sub 720p at 30 fps (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-beyond-two-souls)
still looks great to me
still looks great to me
Sure it does, but its not as earth shattering as people say it is. its a reasonable step up from heavy rain, which also looks great. The major differences are the overall quality of the models.
DashReindeer
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Hahaha. Origammmy.
WTF, Willie from I'm Gonna Git You Sucka?!?!?!
I thought Willem Dafoe made this must buy, Kadeem seals the deal for me.
nelsonroyale
Member
Textures in general seem to have been upped quite a bit, and the environments look more detailed. It is a pretty decent step up I would say.
Anyway, I am hoping Aiden will turn out a bit like Jory in Philip K Dick's Ubik. Evil little bugger he was.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Seems miles better than Heavy Rain and Fahrenheit/IP. Hopefully, the final writing and design will be a genuinely good this time. Will rent or borrow.
shinobi602
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lol, people are way to easely fooled by high rez bullshots.
is how you can expect those shots to look like
sub 720p at 30 fps (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-beyond-two-souls)
The gameplay footage looks absolutely stunning, visually. Being lower res doesn't change it.
And I highly doubt it'll be sub-720p.
TGO
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You expect it to be sub-hd?lol, people are way to easely fooled by high rez bullshots.
is how you can expect those shots to look like
sub 720p at 30 fps (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-beyond-two-souls)
Oh yeah, that was kind of whatever because I could totally buy an American saying it that way. One thing that threw me off was how the non-American actors -- Ethan Mars and Norman Jayden being English and the children being French-- were so OBVIOUSLY non-American. I mean it was worse than Sam Worthington attempting to hide his Ausralian accent.
Well it does, since you have to then blow it up at a reduced resolution making everything blurry.
But it is a good looking game regardless, and it's running on ps3, so "lowered expectations".
SniperHunter
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wow there's a PS4 version in the works? I am going to cancel the PS3 version right now!! I know this is going to happen to The Last of Us as well >_<
AranhaHunter
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This looks pretty damn good. I am a little more interested in this game now.
It also makes sense for it to be cross generation to be honest, but I doubt it will.
I still think QD should make a game out of the Kara demo. And odds of SCEE acquiring QD if Beyond succeeds like HR?
It also makes sense for it to be cross generation to be honest, but I doubt it will.
I still think QD should make a game out of the Kara demo. And odds of SCEE acquiring QD if Beyond succeeds like HR?
SolidSnakex
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Extremely high.
BradleyLove
Member
Anyone who yells "QTE QTE QTE" about Heavy Rain clearly hasn't played it.
You were given choices of commands to pick and the most important choice is also allowing you to do nothing at all. This is the exact opposite of a QTE.
Try playing RE5/6 or God of War without successfully executing a QTE.
Just because in HR you see a prompt for the triangle button doesn't make it a QTE; you don't have to press triangle and therein lies the difference.
You were given choices of commands to pick and the most important choice is also allowing you to do nothing at all. This is the exact opposite of a QTE.
Try playing RE5/6 or God of War without successfully executing a QTE.
Just because in HR you see a prompt for the triangle button doesn't make it a QTE; you don't have to press triangle and therein lies the difference.
Fried Food
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Can't look! Blackout commence!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
the conflict in the walking dead (and basically every other story about zombies ever) aren't the zombies, it's the conflict against the fellow humans and the struggle against lawlessness, disorder, anarchy, mayhem, and greed; you understand that, right?