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Big Brother 14 (US) Returning Houseguests, a Playmate, and a Hantz.

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Dan yelled "I'll rat your ass out" to Ian, and he wonders if Joe or Jenn knew what it meant. What he doesn't know is that Danielle already told everything about Ian to Jenn..
 
PB spoiler:
3:24 PM BBT - The Pandora's Box game must've been where the HG's had to search the house for all the gold coins they could find. Then they had to put them in the ball machine in the Arcade Room and see which balls came out. Ian got the gold ball which is the power. Frank must've gotten a ball that said $3,000.

Dan apparently hogged a bunch of the coins and wouldn't even share them with Danielle.
So did Frank get to play the arcade game? That's a bit weird, usually the person who opens PB gets stuck inside the room with a tv to view the other HG.
 
Feeds are back.

PB was opened. They had to catch balls with quarters (from the arcade machine I think), Ian won something. I don't know what happened to Frank. Dan didn't win anything. Something happened between Dan and Ian, and he's pissed.

Ian won a veto ball (POV) I think.

Frank won 3K.

Ian can't play in the veto comp.

So if Ian has a veto now, is there any reason for Frank not to nominate him? Or does it protect him from nomination, too?
 
So if Ian has a veto now, is there any reason for Frank not to nominate him? Or does it protect him from nomination, too?

I think he can nominate him but he won't since he's working with him. But he should since it would remove one veto and guarantee that someone from the QP goes home. Otherwise, Dan could convince Ian to use his veto on him.

So did Frank get to play the arcade game? That's a bit weird, usually the person who opens PB gets stuck inside the room with a tv to view the other HG.

He didn't play
 
So if Ian has a veto now, is there any reason for Frank not to nominate him? Or does it protect him from nomination, too?



Maybe, Frank is probably too dumb to think of that on his own tho, so unless someone mentions it, he won't do it. If Ian is smart, he'll save it anyway. Unless it expires this week, but really, saving Dan, does nothing for his game.
 
So if Ian has a veto now, is there any reason for Frank not to nominate him? Or does it protect him from nomination, too?

It really depends on how production allow the veto to be played.

If both veto are played simultaneously QP can be saved in a situation where we mention before. Ian saves Dan then Britney/Shane saves Danielle so it's either Britney/Shane vs Joe/Jenn.

However if production says no only one veto played at a time then replacement nom then 2nd veto then 2nd replacement nom then QP is going to lose a member no matter what. In this situation it would be Dan/Danielle and let say Ian saves Dan. Frank would then be allowed to replace the nom before 2nd POV so he can just put up whoever has the 2nd POV to force them to play it on themselves.

So it's going to be interesting how production tackles this. Is it going to be

Veto -> Veto - > replacement or Veto - > replacement - Veto - >replacement.
 
Frank better follow Boogie's advice and not to trust Ian. If he doesn't he'll be gone next week. Frank has to put up Ian and Dan as noms. Anybody else is pure stupidity. I'm sure production set it up this way so it gets used for sure. They could have easily done this after noms.
 
Frank better follow Boogie's advice and not to trust Ian. If he doesn't he'll be gone next week. Frank has to put up Ian and Dan as noms. Anybody else is pure stupidity. I'm sure production set it up this way so it gets used for sure. They could have easily done this after noms.

He has already said it's still going to be Dan and Danielle
 
It really depends on how production allow the veto to be played.

If both veto are played simultaneously QP can be saved in a situation where we mention before. Ian saves Dan then Britney/Shane saves Danielle so it's either Britney/Shane vs Joe/Jenn.

However if production says no only one veto played at a time then replacement nom then 2nd veto then 2nd replacement nom then QP is going to lose a member no matter what. In this situation it would be Dan/Danielle and let say Ian saves Dan. Frank would then be allowed to replace the nom before 2nd POV so he can just put up whoever has the 2nd POV to force them to play it on themselves.

So it's going to be interesting how production tackles this. Is it going to be

Veto -> Veto - > replacement or Veto - > replacement - Veto - >replacement.

Production won't let
Frank
get knocked out.
 
3:48 PM - Britney: "Dan elbowed me in the face one time" during the competition. She gets called to the DR.

Sounds like
------------Dan---------
really really wanted to win.


Production won't let
Frank
get knocked out.
That's what I'm thinking as well. They'll talk to him and get him to switch up his noms so that
------ian------
is forced to use the veto on himself.
 
It sounds like Brit might be getting off the Dan bandwagon, he was apparently acting like a douche during the comp and now he's just expecting everyone to try and save him. Don't know why they would, it's getting down to the nitty gritty and he's no help in getting Frank out next week and it's not like Joe or Jenn are risks at this point. Brit, Shane and Ian should cut him loose. I guess the only upside is in the unlikely event that Frank makes it through next week and once again wins HOH and targets Dan again. Other than that, I can't figure why they would save him. Perfect opportunity to get him out.

Looks like Brit and Shane are down to get him out, it's up to Ian, he's in a tight spot. Should tell Frank to nominate him so he can use it on himself.
 
Random scenario I just thought of....


Dan / Danielle are nominated. Ian already won one POV, and let say Shane wins second POV. Ian saves Dan, and Shane saves Danielle. So that mean Britney on the block versus either Joe/Jenn. That means QP all stay safe and Frank is fucked right?


Edit: Fucking Officerob just had to beat me to the punch.

Funny, if this pb happened last week, most of the posts from some people would have been"RIGGED!!! FIXED!!! AG AT IT AGAIN". Attitudes change when production benefits the people you want to win.
 
Funny, if this pb happened last week, most of the posts from some people would have been"RIGGED!!! FIXED!!! AG AT IT AGAIN". Attitudes change when production benefits the people you want to win.

Oh this was 100% rigged to give
Dan another chance to with POV.
It's kinda why I'm rooting for Ian now
 
Funny, if this pb happened last week, most of the posts from some people would have been"RIGGED!!! FIXED!!! AG AT IT AGAIN". Attitudes change when production benefits the people you want to win.

Oh it's definitely still rigging and still hated. Sometimes it's just easier to take. :lol
 
Hmmm - Ian is going be important this week.


Ian's power is he can cancel a nomination. Can't play in Veto this week though.

If Shane or Britney win veto, take off one of Dan or Danielle off, then Ian uses the Veto Ball, ALL of the Quack Pack will stay since they'll control the votes since Joe or Jenn will have to be put up next to Brit/Shane!

Goes without saying - this will be the most important PoV of the year.
 
Is Shane on board with the save QP plan if he or Britney win pov or is he on team frank now? From the recaps it seems team frank but I dunno if he's just smoke screening frank. He's gotta know he can't win against frank.
 
Is Shane on board with the save QP plan if he or Britney win pov or is he on team frank now? From the recaps it seems team frank but I dunno if he's just smoke screening frank. He's gotta know he can't win against frank.

This wouldn't serve them at all. If they defy frank and take Dan off, Frank could just as easily put Brit/Shane up depending on who won. Frank wants blood this week. One of the QP is done.
 
This wouldn't serve them at all. If they defy frank and take Dan off, Frank could just as easily put Brit/Shane up depending on who won. Frank wants blood this week. One of the QP is done.
Just not true.

If Britney or Shane win Veto and use it, and Ian uses the veto ball, the QP control the vote.
 
Right now everyone understand the best/worst case scenarios for Frank. It just a matter of who wins the Veto.

Ian probably not even sure what he will do until tomorrow. Once the Veto winner is determined then people who have to show their cards. Unless Joe/Jenn wins Veto and that pretty much scratch everything.
 
Yeah but my question still stands, does anyone watching the feeds know where Shane's head is out?

Shane said he would take Danielle to F2 if he can. At the same time whoever get to Shane last has a good chance of swaying his vote. Seems like he was losing allegiance to Brit day after day and was leaning towards Danielle/Dan. However with Frank winning HoH and Dan being the target last 48 hours he's almost back on board with Brit.

Shane just confuse the shit out of me. I have no clue where he really stand sometimes. Most of the game talk is initiated with Brit, Dan or Frank at this point. So you don't even see much of Shane, Joe, or Jenn.
 
Yeah but my question still stands, does anyone watching the feeds know where Shane's head is out?


He and Brit are on board to get rid of Dan if possible without getting blood on their hands.

Frank should have put Ian up, it would have nullified his veto and then Dan could only be saved if he or Danielle wins the veto.
 
He and Brit are on board to get rid of Dan if possible without getting blood on their hands.

Frank should have put Ian up, it would have nullified his veto and then Dan could only be saved if he or Danielle wins the veto.

If he did that he basically would have to win out in veto. By not putting Ian up he's betting on Ian not stabbing him in the back again. Like Britney told him "you can't play this game alone" so as much as it hurt him that Ian betrayed him he has no better option. If he put up Ian get rid of Dan and let say the remaining four of QP stick together he still fucked. Joe/Jenn would just listen to QP order if they won HoH anyways. The only way he can get Ian/Brit/Shane to leave Danielle/Dan was take this risk. Plus Ian already looked like a scumbag once on T.V, Frank betting on that these guys don't want to look like scum bags again.
 
If he did that he basically would have to win out in veto. By not putting Ian up he's betting on Ian not stabbing him in the back again. Like Britney told him "you can't play this game alone" so as much as it hurt him that Ian betrayed him he has no better option. If he put up Ian get rid of Dan and let say the remaining four of QP stick together he still fucked. Joe/Jenn would just listen to QP order if they won HoH anyways. The only way he can get Ian/Brit/Shane to leave Danielle/Dan was take this risk. Plus Ian already looked like a scumbag once on T.V, Frank betting on that these guys don't want to look like scum bags again.



Oh I think he's screwed next week anyway unless he wins veto,hoh,veto. Seems like we still need another double eviction or something.
 
From watching just the show and not the feeds I hope Frank sticks it to some of these little QP dbags. He's been saved a few times, but he's also won how many HOH's and Vetos at this point? If he wins HOH Dan will have to rethink why he hid Ian as being the snake playing both sides, maybe not the best move for his game. It could end up what sends him packing in the end.
 
Dan will have to rethink why he hid Ian as being the snake playing both sides, maybe not the best move for his game. It could end up what sends him packing in the end.

Frank was supposed to go home last Thursday. It should have been Joe/Shane on the block and Frank gets back door-ed.

Then it ended up being Frank/Ashley with Frank winning POV then Franks win HoH. Dan couldn't see that coming....
 
I agree it would have been better. Even as 5th in QP he'd end up assisting one side against the other and then he's top 3 and one away from a win.

The only player he loses to that is left is likely Frank. Dan would be close.
 
The way I see it, is that
Dan going to Boogie after the game "reset" (that prevented Frank from going home) and telling him the plan was to get him out will ultimately be the reason Dan will be evicted on Thursday. Frank got too emotional over that and ran with it and never looked back, going so far as to blaming Dan for everything (even though he didn't stab them in the back since that time). Dan not exposing Ian was a bad move that will also cost him badly because Ian is working with Frank on the side and Frank is completely stupid to realize that Ian was the one. I don't think Dan will get the votes to stay, so his only chance is to win the Veto. I think a lot the players will give the allusion that the QP is alive, but it seems clear that it is no more.
 
If he did that he basically would have to win out in veto. By not putting Ian up he's betting on Ian not stabbing him in the back again. Like Britney told him "you can't play this game alone" so as much as it hurt him that Ian betrayed him he has no better option. If he put up Ian get rid of Dan and let say the remaining four of QP stick together he still fucked. Joe/Jenn would just listen to QP order if they won HoH anyways. The only way he can get Ian/Brit/Shane to leave Danielle/Dan was take this risk. Plus Ian already looked like a scumbag once on T.V, Frank betting on that these guys don't want to look like scum bags again.

He didn't look like a scumbag, he was the little angel who sent Boogie home. >:3
 
He didn't look like a scumbag, he was the little angel who sent Boogie home. >:3

Well in his eyes he looked like a scum bag. Did you see him when he reading the letter that his family wrote him? Ian was in tears when he got to the part that said "be true to yourself and play an honest game."

He was fighting so hard to hold those tears back and they still came out.

Frank is sleeping already... lol damn.

Dan poking fun at Danielle. They are talking what if Shane was HoH first week instead of Willie. Dan says " it would have been a showmance with Kara. (To Shane). "

Ladies and gentlemen it has just been confirmed
Brit/Ian wants DAN OUT!
 
Ladies and gentlemen it has just been confirmed
Brit/Ian wants DAN OUT!

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Ian said that the DR
doesn't want him to use the veto and wants him to work with Frank
. I think that about wraps things up for me, enjoy the season guys
 
It totally make sense though. Brit/Ian can either stick with QP or join Frank. They just have to watch where things fall after the Veto.

Dan leaves they can still fake that they are in QP. And if let say Shane/Danielle wins and get rid of Frank they can rejoin QP without Shane/Danielle even knowing. Danielle would lean towards Jenn over Ian though.
 
Ladies and gentlemen it has just been confirmed
Brit/Ian wants DAN OUT!

i wouldn't take it as a done deal until veto's awarded. It's one thing to decide that when they're in the tight situation that they're in, but if one of them wins veto = whole new ball game. LOL Either way, Frank's days are numbered.
 
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