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[riotous]

It's getting quoted so much I have to address this.

A select few models and actresses make extremely good money, but the number of people who make that money is likely less than 100, and then there are 1,000,000 jobs like this one for the rest.

Many of these 1,000,000+ jobs are making really good money too.

Well above median income. These coffee stand girls for instance can easily pull in close to six figures. They drive BMW's and Range Rover's. I know a couple of them personally enough to know their finances are pretty well in order.

Many strippers and cam girls make really good money as well.

Modeling if anything is the absolute worst thing for an attractive female to get into if they want to make a living from being attractive. As you said only the top percent do very well, but these other "make money from looking hot" jobs are prevalent and pay pretty damn well.

 

[cdyhybrid]

The one's actually in Seattle are not labeled very well.. Ciao Bella espresso.

Look like totally normal stands.. logo is just of a female cartoon face winking.

There's stretches of highway where outside of Starbucks the only drive-thru stands are the bikini stands.

There are probably twice as many "bikini" stands now than normal ones.

I used to drive by one every block or so on 99 during my commute from Seattle to Everett.

I was hoping for just suggestive Hooters style apparel, but this is not only tasteless, it's unsanitary to have naked and food in the same area. It's still food service, and I don't want hair or any other shit in my coffee that I didn't request for or desire. I'm surprised no health inspector has shut places like that down in the PNW. That wouldn't fly in the Northeast.

A lot of them are located in kinda run-down areas.

 

[Chuckl3s]

As a Phoenician, It will be like when they opened up a Heart Attack Grill. You will go there once for the experience but leave disappointed cause you can get a good quality burger somewhere else.

 

[Opiate]

It's getting quoted so much I have to address this.



Many of these 1,000,000+ jobs are making really good money too.

Well above median income. These coffee stand girls for instance can easily pull in close to six figures. They drive BMW's and Range Rover's. I know a couple of them personally enough to know their finances are pretty well in order.

Many strippers and cam girls make really good money as well.

Modeling if anything is the absolute worst thing for an attractive female to get into if they want to make a living from being attractive. As you said only the top percent do very well, but these other "make money from looking hot" jobs are prevalent and pay pretty damn well.

What you're thinking of is immediate hourly wage, which isn't the issue: these aren't positions or careers that are sustainable long term or even medium term, in many cases.. To be "well off" as a professionally pretty person, you need to make a hugely inordinate amount in your 20s. That's why strippers are often financially fine in their 20s, but not so well off beyond that, as their career (unfairly) stigmatizes them, they can't get another solid career, and while the job days pay reasonably well, it certainly doesn't pay well enough to provide a huge cushion by the time you're 33 unless you're very successful or very frugal.

This is without discussing men, of course, which have gone largely undiscussed so far. You have a few jobs for male models, a few for actors, some athletes (although athletes may not necessarily benefit from having "sexy" toned bodies), and then the next step down is gigantic. You'd be better off using your body for construction work than you would playing in the minor leagues of a sport or being a modestly successful actor.

 

[ronito]

There's a place like that in Tracy and everyone kept raving about how great their drinks were, both men and women. So I took the wife, we both agreed it was the best damn mocha we ever had.

So now I go,but with shame

 

[riotous]

What you're thinking of is immediate hourly wage, which isn't the issue: these aren't positions or careers that are sustainable long term. To be "well off" as a professionally pretty person, you need to make a hugely inordinate amount in your 20s.

Well sure.. for most this has to be a job they eventually abandon.

I didn't realize the bar for the convo was set at long term career potential.

it certainly doesn't pay well enough to provide a huge cushion by the time you're 33 unless you're very successful or very frugal.

It certainly easily can for many women. Not to mention many become entrepreneurs, start their own businesses managing the younger girls, etc.

There are many women working in these industries with six figure savings and plans to move on from it. Of course there's also the classic irresponsible/drug addict that is prevalent, but it's their lifestyle that does it to them not the job. People like to throw around "well most strippers aren't bringing home hundreds a night".. but it's kind of ignorant. The truth is, most are bringing home that kind of cash.. unfortunately a lot of them waste it, are lazy and don't work enough hours, etc.

 

[jadedm17]

are you gonna go there and get your morning fix?

No, because like strip clubs these places rarely - if ever - have the type of women I'm attracted to. That pictures has too many fake boobs for my tastes.

 

[Opiate]

Well sure.. for most this has to be a job they eventually abandon.

I didn't realize the bar for the convo was set at long term career potential.

It was set at least to medium term, surely. A fairly pretty virgin can probably sell their virginity for tens of thousands of dollars, but it's not a "job" which makes someone rich. Strippers are not generally wealthy people (far from it, in fact), and it's not because the hourly wage isn't good, it's because the job only last a few months or years for most people doing it.

It certainly easily can for many women. Not to mention many become entrepreneurs, start their own businesses managing the younger girls, etc.

There are many women working in these industries with six figure savings and plans to move on from it. Of course there's also the classic irresponsible/drug addict that is prevalent, but it's their lifestyle that does it to them not the job.

Sure, and "many" men are successful for being physically fit. Again, there are always exceptions, and the exceptions in professions like these tend to be very rare and top heavy (no pun intended). What you'd need to find is the GINI index, which is typically very high for occupations like this.

 

[riotous]

Sure, and "many" men are successful for being physically fit. Again, there are always exceptions, and the exceptions in professions like these tend to be very rare and top heavy (no pun intended). What you'd need to find is the GINI index, which is typically very high for occupations like this.

Men have a tiny fraction of opportunities available for them when it comes to making money from their looks. Not remotely comparable sectors.

And my "many" wasn't referencing how many make enough money to have a cushion by 33. I'd say most make more than enough money to do so. It's just that a huge portion of them are irresponsible. The stigma of the jobs attracts a lot of irresponsible females.

 

[jadedm17]

Gaf, whats worse here?

Cynthia ******* The places are created for men (who are really still little boys) who didn't get any attention from pretty girls in high-school!! Those will be your patrons!! Very sad and embarrassing for them if you ask me...
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Brandon ******** I'm personally sticking up for Cynthia. The girl is fine and I wouldn't want to see her in a bikini making my coffee. A girl this fine and classy doesn't need to stoop to this level. I would rather have her on my yacht being served by one of the scandalous whores working at Bikini Beans.
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Why is taking money from men and not even getting naked a bad thing? Isn't that empowering, isn't that using what you're given to better yourself? I have no interest, but what does it hurt Cynthia by merely existing?
Then you have whiteknight brandon who thinks he knows how woman should act and judges those who go against it.
The world is a mad place.

 

[riotous]

Why is taking money from men and not even getting naked a bad thing? Isn't that empowering, isn't that using what you're given to better yourself? I have no interest, but what does it hurt Cynthia by merely existing?
Then you have whiteknight brandon who thinks he knows how woman should act and judges those who go against it.
The world is a mad place.

People are incredibly uptight about sexual expression.

The whiteknight guy reminds me of guys who think they are being feminists by praising a curvy woman as a "real woman."

 

[nabe_shogun]

As a Phoenician, It will be like when they opened up a Heart Attack Grill. You will go there once for the experience but leave disappointed cause you can get a good quality burger somewhere else.

This is what I predict.


That said, I'll probably go and check it out.

 

[jadedm17]

People are incredibly uptight about sexual expression.

The whiteknight guy reminds me of guys who think they are being feminists by praising a curvy woman as a "real woman."

This is the bullshit that enrages me. I don't know, I know I have a lot of thoughts that are better off in theory than they would be in execution.

That said, how the hell does this effect these people? I have a motorcycle and would never ride it without a helmet, law or not. I used to live down south and lots of people didnt. I find it stupid, but I think its their right to live life how they feel.

I haven't gone to a strip club in years, personally don't enjoy it. Why should anyone care about those that decide to spend their money to go, or make their money from those that do?

Its maddening.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Gaf, whats worse here?




Why is taking money from men and not even getting naked a bad thing? Isn't that empowering, isn't that using what you're given to better yourself? I have no interest, but what does it hurt Cynthia by merely existing?
Then you have whiteknight brandon who thinks he knows how woman should act and judges those who go against it.
The world is a mad place.

He could be a high-level troll. He's saying instead of objectifying them like strippers at the coffee stand, he'd rather have her as a trophy/status symbol aboard his yacht.

 

[Five]

I'd ask my Phoenician (is that really the word?) cousins to give it a try and report in, but they're far too uptight to even drive by a place like this.

Personally, I don't mind that stores like these exist, but I prefer getting aroused in private. It'd be hard to study or have a personal conversation with a friend at a coffee house like this.

 

[Stat Flow]

I'll be sure to take my coffee with milk every time.

 

[riotous]

This is the bullshit that enrages me. I don't know, I know I have a lot of thoughts that are better off in theory than they would be in execution.

That said, how the hell does this effect these people? I have a motorcycle and would never ride it without a helmet, law or not. I used to live down south and lots of people didnt. I find it stupid, but I think its their right to live life how they feel.

I haven't gone to a strip club in years, personally don't enjoy it. Why should anyone care about those that decide to spend their money to go, or make their money from those that do?

Its maddening.

Yeah it's pretty strange... some are jealous or insecure. Go on Facebook and find Bikini barista's on there.. you'll see a lot of "slut shaming" going on.

Really it boils down to illusory superiority. Put down anyone who does things you don't if there is any social justification for it, even if that justification is based on asinine things (like slut shaming.)

Although helmets are a little different.. helment-less riders contribute to our shared healthcare expense problems. They also share the road with people, and can turn a small mistake into a death that involves other drivers.

 

[muu]

Last time I went to a coffee shop I was greeted by good looking girls in yoga pants / shorts making coffee. Coffee itself seemed pretty good, not a big java guy so I can only say it tasted better than office coffee but not worth paying $4 for. Assuming this is a recurring trend among shops that aren't big national chains, I wonder how effective this bikini strategy is when other shops already offer this, er, added value.

Sure, most of them very primitive. My point is that the modern world is obviating this particular skillset. The value of physical strength and physique is gradually being reduced (and by gradually, I mean over the course of centuries).

Still a great skillset that complements others. Looks can affect first impressions, likability, etc etc. A good looking college girl could probably make bank off this as a side-job while strengthening other skillsets.

 

[TAJ]

What's the difference between this and Hooters or Twin Peaks? Where does one draw the line?

The uniforms at Hooters would have been considered normal clothing in the '80s. Not for a waitress, but most other places.
Shit, I used to wear shorts at least that small when I was a kid and I'm a dude.

 

[desertdroog]

Their coffee shop is directly on my route when I commute to work. I heard about this on the radio on my way home yesterday and have not determined if I was going to check it out or not.

If I do, I will wait a few weeks for the buzz to die down. Otherwise, I imagine the crowds would cause me to be more late than when I go to the other coffee options I have in Central Phoenix.

 

[Cow Mengde]

There's a place like that in Tracy and everyone kept raving about how great their drinks were, both men and women. So I took the wife, we both agreed it was the best damn mocha we ever had.

So now I go,but with shame

Does your wife know you keep going back?

 

[Brofield]

I'd go.

Mostly because I'm in Canada, looking out the window seeing a downpour of rain, and I'm in my early 20s filled with the raging hormones of a 16 year old, but yeah, it's enough for a cuppa joe.

 

[riotous]

Does your wife know you keep going back?

I'm not ronito, but I regularly get coffee from bikini/show your cornhole stands WITH my wife.. or alone.. she thinks the girls are hot. When I'm alone I try to get pictures to send to her.. the girls especially like couples who go through and seem more comfortable with the guy afterwards knowing his wife is OK with it.

My phone is very NSFW because of those places.

Coffee is really good at a few of them. Others are avoid at all costs.. unless you just really want to see some cornhole.

 

[NotBacon]

Wait do most states not allow this? Washington resident here.......

 

[Vermillion]

I never quite get the point of stuff like this. Like, if its arousing isn't it just then frustrating? Being surrounded by hot, sexy women that I can't actually have sex with doesn't sound fun

Same thing as strip clubs I guess

.

I guess it's like Hooters, really. They have some pretty good chicken, imo.

 

[MilkBeard]

Maybe not exactly like this, but in Seattle and Washington State in general, we have a lot of drive-up bikini barista coffee places.

I tend to consider them to be pretty low places and I chose to never go to them. Other dudes like to, otherwise they wouldn't find business, obviously. However, I don't think it is a good business practice, as it only appeals towards males or bisexual/gay females, in a place where nearly everyone drinks coffee.

Anyway, if people like this type of business, I suppose that's more power to ya, but I'll never go to one.

 

[MilkBeard]

Wait do most states not allow this? Washington resident here.......

As a Washington resident who used to live in the midwest, I can confirm that most states don't have bikini coffee places. It was interesting when I moved here, because in Seattle we have a lot of casinos, porn shops and bikini barista drive thrus all in close quarters.


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There is one coffee place near the Northgate Mall theater where the girls work in their bras at nighttime. In that instance I think it's a little different, because that coffee shop in particular doesn't revolve around that idea entirely, and it's a nice place with great coffee, and they only do it at nighttime. It might sound hypocritical of me but the place is pretty nice and has great coffee, whereas the drive-thru coffee places tend to have shitty coffee and look a bit on the trashy side. It is of course up to any woman's choice if they want to do that if they choose, as there are tons of coffee shops around so it's not like the pickings are slim here.

 

[LosDaddie]

Nice!

I would go to one every once in a while.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

The next natural evolution is a drive through where the bikini waitresses roller skate up, take your order and deliver it back to your car. LOL.

In Australia we have a bikini car wash run by a strip club called Kittens...I can neither confirm or deny a number of bucks parties may be familiar with this brand.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kittens-car-wash/121535417905253

They also have this strip club bus...

Oh the crapulence of modern society.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

better than 0 minutes a day

BOOM

 

[Meier]

Terribly obvious fake boobs like the girl on the right are just so embarrassing. They look awful. How does a woman ever get those and think it's a good idea?

 

[Necromanti]

I still don't get how there's no sort of health or safety code being violated with all that bare skin in such close proximity to food and hot beverages.

 

[Five]

I still don't get how there's no sort of health or safety code being violated with all that bare skin in such close proximity to food and hot beverages.

I was disappointed when the article said they're wearing only a bikini and then I came to find out that they also have shoes on.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Confidence in your body, not being forced to do anything you don't want to. I have no issues with this. Whatever they do, please maintain good health and food service records.

Those facebookers should save their outrage for legit issues.

 

[riotous]

I still don't get how there's no sort of health or safety code being violated with all that bare skin in such close proximity to food and hot beverages.

Why would it be a health code violation?

The worker's potential to get burned?

 

[entremet]

We have dozens of these in Washington state. And the kind of mouth breathing poltroons who go to them...

Some are also fronts for prostitution.

I'm shocked!

 

[bjork]

Good for whoever gets a job from it and the commerce it creates, but not really my thing. Maybe I'm just an old prude now.

 

[Necromanti]

Why would it be a health code violation?

The worker's potential to get burned?

Safety-wise, yes, I would have thought that any employees handling food or drink to be handled at high temperatures would need some minimal form of protection, at least, to prevent the very severe burns that could arise from accidents.

As for hygiene, limiting the amount of exposed skin and hair would seem prudent, and if the pictures that some people linked to are accurate, the employees touching their own or each other's genitalia also raises some questions.

 

[riotous]

Safety-wise, yes, I would have thought that any employees handling food or drink to be handled at high temperatures would need some minimal form of protection, at least, to prevent the very severe burns that could arise from accidents.

As for hygiene, limiting the amount of exposed skin and hair would seem prudent, and if the pictures that some people linked to are accurate, the employees touching their own or each other's genitalia also raises some questions.

Yeah the actual illegal acts are obviously health code violating.. but already illegal.

And the girls do get a lot of burns.

 

[dark_prinny]

Better than Starbucks I guess...

 

[CrankyJay]

He could be a high-level troll. He's saying instead of objectifying them like strippers at the coffee stand, he'd rather have her as a trophy/status symbol aboard his yacht.

He was trolling.

How do I know? He's my boss. I showed him the Facebook discussion after reading the thread earlier this afternoon. LOL.

 

[ronito]

Does your wife know you keep going back?

Totally and she gets pissed too!...If I don't bring back a mocha.In fact she said I should've stopped by this afternoon and taken a pic for Gaf.

 

[Deleted member 325805]

As for hygiene, limiting the amount of exposed skin and hair would seem prudent, and if the pictures that some people linked to are accurate, the employees touching their own or each other's genitalia also raises some questions.

So what you're saying is all the girls should buy and use a No-No?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Why pay for coffee when I can buy instant coffee for like 99 cents?

The money you save could easily be put towards strip clubs if it's boobs you can't touch you're interested in,

 

[nvrndr]

Safety-wise, yes, I would have thought that any employees handling food or drink to be handled at high temperatures would need some minimal form of protection, at least, to prevent the very severe burns that could arise from accidents.

As for hygiene, limiting the amount of exposed skin and hair would seem prudent, and if the pictures that some people linked to are accurate, the employees touching their own or each other's genitalia also raises some questions.

Yeah the actual illegal acts are obviously health code violating.. but already illegal.

And the girls do get a lot of burns.

Hahahahaha.

Oh my.

 

[riotous]

Hahahahaha.

Oh my.

I have video proof, lol.

Slow-mo even.

 

[Kronotech]

Thank you for this amazing gift, Phoenix. I will enjoy my coffee much more now.

 

[tuna on toast]

I don't like big ugly leg tattoos on women who sell me coffee.

 

[ShowDog]

No one can pull this off quite like the Vietnamese... Cafe Lu has been doing it for years. It's better when you introduce indoor smoking, pasties and illicit gambling!

 

[Madness]

These have been around for a while in Washington state. Most actually make a lot of money and a lot of strippers/escorts work at them.