Shake Appeal
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Bill Maher sucks. Just delete him from public life. No one will miss him.
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Bill Maher uses the n-word.
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"But guys, he's a liberal! So we should ignore it if he does something offensive and ignorant!"
i'll respect you enough to not to use it around you
NoblesseOblige
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Who would have guessed an Islamophobe was also comfortable dropping the most hateful word.
Any white dude that slips to slavery and says they ain't a house nigger is an enemy, not an ally.
White people watching him going, "we can make jokes like that?"
Fuck him and his defenders.
Letting this shit fly is how we ending up with Trump, c'mon man.
unpopularblargh
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"B-but he's an ally who says harsh truths about libruls!"
AntraxSuicide
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This is what I don't get. I'm a white guy who has lived in Mississippi for my entire life. Under no circumstances does that word coming out of my mouth do anything for anyone. It's not making me happy, it's not making people of color around me comfortable.
As a dude from the South, any white person using that word is rubbing elbows with the Klan. I can give a pass to old people for some slang that they can't help if they slip up and say it without thinking, but that's about as far as I'm willing to go.
My exception (and again, I'm not black so this may not be cool) is if you're reading literature in class that uses it. But my lit teacher in high school always made us say it so we couldn't get out of the squeamish parts of things like To Kill a Mockingbird.
xDUMPWEEDx
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That was the point I was trying to make. You grow up with it in California. It is a part of life here, and literally feeds this whole country. I can see why residents of the 49 other states, especially southern states, might not immediately associate field work with Hispanic immigrants, especially due to how powerfully evil slavery was.
With Bill living in LA for so long, the obvious "joke", having a Nebraska guy on your show in Southern California, would have been about Hispanic field workers here. If you really want to push the "line" further, sure, run the slavery joke. The N-word was unnecessary however.
metalslimer
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Lol Bill fucking Maher sure as hell ain't one of my own.
You can even look on HBO for another liberal shown tackles politics without having to debase yourself to watch a guy who sucks off Milo
You can even look on HBO for another liberal shown tackles politics without having to debase yourself to watch a guy who sucks off Milo
Frozenprince
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Right?
Liberals are allowed to be, and often are, just as ugly as the people they lampoon, they just dress it better.
You're allowed to shit on somebody for doing something stupid, that doesn't invalidate everything else they do.
do you think fighting against both "real racism" and whatever you think this racism is too complex for people in this thread to handle?
tiredheadcrab
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I think over the years he has said worse than this. HBO wont fire him for this, for whatever reason they dont burn their own. Maher has that ideology as he doesnt attack people in the HBO family either. Its a bit weird. Also his ratings are good.
smokeandmirrors
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seriously if the first thing that comes out of your mouth for 'comedic value' is a racial epithet unprovoked, you might be a horrible fucking racist asshole.
Hey, look at him go!
ModernBoxes
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If you tell people they can't say something, they're going to say it. When it's circulated in popular culture, they're going to say it. It'll never end. You can't tell people to "learn their place and nix vocabulary or else I'll vaguely threaten you with violence." That's going to stop no one, threats are challenges and people respond to challenges in the opposite way you intended.
It's a word that is given power by everyone. When I was growing up, getting called a faggot was all the rage. Now no one really flinches at the word, it was over used and lost its casual meaning and weight. Today it's a teenager yelling the n word into the mic in hopes to trigger me or whoever else. It's maddening to hear, because I have to hear someone saying something fucked up and it puts me in the shoes of their intended target. They know it's a powerful word that will get under anyone's skin.
It's not just a callback to slavery, it's a callback to division. The word needs to be dropped out of use... But it won't. It was simultaneously made the most offensive word in the dictionary while being a rallying cry for black cultural unity. It's self perpetuating.
NoblesseOblige
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Because enough white people still watch him to make HBO money.
Tinfoilhatsron
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Are you saying there's a wide variety of people with different opinions on issues? And that context and place can matter? Next you'll be telling me President Trump really doesn't care about the coal workers.
Lord Frieza
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Well, he's basically been doing this show for about 25 years and his ratings have stayed good is the main reason.
therealist
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Different experiences, I suppose. Perhaps not having many minorities at your school was a factor. In my anecdotal school experience, it was mainly the hispanic/filipino kids using the n word around me. They were all huge hip hop fans. I am pretty active on a hip hop forum where I'm going to guess is like 50/50 black/non-black. The n word is part of normal vocabulary on there, and I am pretty sure it's not just the black posters writing it. If that were the case, then 90% of the forum would be black which I know is not the case.
You Are Viewtiful
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Isn't "criticizing fellow liberals" a huge part of Bill's shtick? Well here's us criticizing his BS. He should apologize for the stupid joke and we can move past this. (Something tells me he won't apologize though and will bask in this alt-right fame, what a world we live in...)
Alligatorjandro
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Remember when he stood up to Milo
Shake Appeal
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I don't consider myself a "liberal," but people who do should kick Bill Maher out of the tent. We don't need him anywhere on the left.
Mighty Chin
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I'll miss him.
Prototype Viktor
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"You know where that word came from? There was that guy just being one" - famous Louis CK line
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Mohonky
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Im not black myself, but I know (and ended up in a conversation about this in a prevuous Gaf thread on using the word) of plenty of people who are black who flatly refuse to use the word and find it abhorrent.
You have used the term black people and we as a collective a couple of times in this thread; so who is we? Who is deciding that it's collectively ok? What about the opinions of those black people who dont want it used in any way shape or form? They dont get a say? Does this only apply to African American identified black? Those that dont like the word being used, does not saying it in their presence absolve you of their offense to the word? If so, does that absolve others of using the term so long as noone else is around who might be offended by it?
You just have to call yourself an ally. It's like a magic spell that causes a people to fall over themselves defending you from the nasty "radical left".
(((He's been with HBO pretty much as long as there's been an HBO in some capacity.
Of course, O'Reilly got fired this year and he basically built Fox News.
Not really, but i remember when he kneeled to suck his cock.
hydrophilic attack
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It certainly made these threads more exciting, because you knew exactly when he'd show up.
hockey does suck tho
This notion of 'allies' doesn't mean anything anymore for liberals. We're not united on a single goddamn thing. Everybody misses an item on the checklist at some point.
Maher is a dipshit, but I would like to also comment on how, as a Nebraskan, I'm sick of seeing Sasse normalized. He's not charming, he doesn't stand up to Trump when it comes to votes. Why are people pretending he won't just tow the party line? Why are so many shows welcoming his stupid ass? I know he'll probably try to run in 2020 but no one should give him the time of day.
The Technomancer
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Maher misses an item on the checklist like every other month
I don't use it. Don't like using it or hearing it. But it's our word and we decide it, not anybody else. It's one of our only priveleges, and we choose what to do with it ourselves. Nobody else. I'm not mad at other black peoples for it because I know exactly what it means.
RustyNails
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Bill Maher is a Islamophobic racist asshole. I've been saying it for a while.
It's honestly goddamn simple:
- if you're not black, don't use it
- if you are black and other black people don't like it, don't use it if you respect them
It's like my aunt. We call her Little Miss Piggy because she's fat and has a similar sort of attitude. We, as family and friends, can call her that. But anyone else? Lol
It's incredible to me that Maher still has defenders. The guy is as ignorant as many of the people he attacks on the right. His nonsense about Islam, thinking it's okay to drop racial slurs because he labels himself a liberal and allowing equally ignorant guests to spout unchallenged bullshit about transgender people.
Fuck Bill Maher.
Fuck Bill Maher.
Those other black people should mind their business about what the fuck I be doing that don't affect them at all. I'm courteous enough to not use it in their presence and that's good enough. Thats between skinfolk.
Whitefolk got a whole other history with the word, they don't get that nuance.
Frozenprince
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And we don't NEED to be united on everything, that's the beauty of a coalition and a democratic nation.
But when somebody is on some fuck shit, it needs to be addressed, called for what it is, and we need to accept it and not try and dance around cause "he's an important person tho".
benicillin
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I wasn't aware that not using the most obvious racial slur to avoid is an "item on a checklist."
Bill Maher wore out his welcome a long time ago, and this tired "b-b-but he's a LIBRUL" argument is just as worn out.
If you mean most people on GAF, then yeah, I'd agree. I seriously doubt most Americans hate his views on Islam.
Frozenprince
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Most Americans probably think "Islam" is a country.
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