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Bill O'Reilly Vs. Jon Stewart 2012 - The Rumble in The Air-Conditioned Auditorium
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CrazedProfessional
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Does anyone else think that they're both secretly good friends at this point?
TheKaeptain
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Yep. Sometimes I think John is on the joke too.
Aaron Strife
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O'Reilly's such a fuck. Every time I start warming up to him he says something completely assholish and stupid the next day.
I hope Jon eviscerates him but he plays nice with Bill.
I hope Jon eviscerates him but he plays nice with Bill.
jediyoshi
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Worked for Herman Cain.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Will be a scripted event with both sides scoring points against each other for laughs but Stewart generally coming out as the accepted "winner".
O'Reilly gives the event a quick mention on his next show downplaying Stewart as a liberal comedian with small chuckle, before calling all democrats pinheads.
Stewart will mock Bill in his whiney republican voice on his shown and everyone will laugh.
Comedy Central and Fox pocket a sizable profit, masterfully playing both audiences.
The end.
O'Reilly gives the event a quick mention on his next show downplaying Stewart as a liberal comedian with small chuckle, before calling all democrats pinheads.
Stewart will mock Bill in his whiney republican voice on his shown and everyone will laugh.
Comedy Central and Fox pocket a sizable profit, masterfully playing both audiences.
The end.
Edag Plata
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Two morons.
Jon Stewart is a clown who plays a smart clown on TV.
Bill O'Reilly is a smart guy who plays an asshole on TV.
Stephen Colbert is a smart guy who plays a dumb clown playing an asshole on TV.
Can't believe there are people who still don't realize this.
Pretty much.
Shabadoo69
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This is going to be awesome. I love Jon Stewart. I hope he make O'Riley look like an ass hat.
Diprosalic
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stewart is not a smart guy?
VeryGooster
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Oh I am so down for this.
>believes in God.
>denies evolution.
>don't know how tides work.
>don't know that other planets have moons.
>smart guy.
minor effort
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That, and they both know that having each other on their respective shows usually pulls in tons of viewers.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Who's the moderator?
Stewart and O'Reilly always have a great dynamic when they're on each other's shows and appear to have genuine respect for one another despite their disagreements. This will probably be both interesting and entertaining, though I'm not sure if I'm interested enough to make sure I'm in front of my computer at 8PM and to pay money for it.
ProfessorLobo
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I have inserted five dollars into your Paypal account sir.
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Vilix
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I'd like to see Stephanopoulos do it. He's worked with both on certain news stories.
Reverse these two and you're on to something.
No. I think they both do the conciliatory jesting to keep the tension down, but I don't think they'd get along off-camera. They just realize how lucrative it is for both of them to play up the rivalry. I think they also like how people really enjoy their banter.
Synth_floyd
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Bill will call him a pinhead and be condescending and disrespectful. Stewart will make cogent arguments but pepper them with hit or miss jokes and give O'Reilly the breathing room to keep calling him a pinhead and being condescending and disrespectful.
Though it probably depends on the moderator. They've always met on one or the other's shows and the deck was always stacked against the "visitor." Also it depends on the tone of the debate. Will they really go after each other? Will it be more of a friendly discussion? We'll have to see.
Though it probably depends on the moderator. They've always met on one or the other's shows and the deck was always stacked against the "visitor." Also it depends on the tone of the debate. Will they really go after each other? Will it be more of a friendly discussion? We'll have to see.
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Vilix
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Actually, they do have a relationship off camera. I remember seeing on TMZ (puke) pictures of them together out and about, just the two and sometimes with their families included.
I'm not in the habit of defending O'Reilly, but I wouldn't say he's dumb because he believes in God. You can make a case he's not so bright because he defends the Judeo-Christian God and/or religion which is probably what you were implying anyway. Now his "can't explain that" argument about the moon and tides was poorly constructed. He knows how they work and that they can be scientifically explained, of course, but his actual argument is even worse I think; it's the same argument other ID's make that ask, "Sure it can be explained about how it works, but why is it there? Why is everything working so elegantly like clockwork? Science can't answer why." The "Why?" question, of course, is such a ridiculous question. His denial of evolution because science doesn't yet explain how that first self-replicating cell exactly formed is moronic as well.
Ok, actually your right, he's not very smart
. He does have a surprisingly decent attitude on gay marriage though, so I'll give him that.bodyboarder
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Will watch.
I find that hard to believe. TMZ has nothing like that on its site:
http://www.tmz.com/person/bill-oreilly/
http://www.tmz.com/person/jon-stewart/
DanteFox
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this ain't 4chan, bro. also lol at calling him dumb because he believes in God.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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These guys aren't hard to figure out, and you only got 1 right out of 3.
PaleFolklore
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1 for 3. Not bad
Stewart's gonna get cremated if it's just one on one. Stewart without his interns doing all the thinking for him is like Obama without his teleprompter. Utterly powerless.
As opposed to O'Reilly, who is by far and away the smartest pundit on Fox News.
As opposed to O'Reilly, who is by far and away the smartest pundit on Fox News.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Still wondering if I care enough to get this. It'll probably be good, and it's only 5 bucks...
Did Stewart say what his charities are? I assume Oreilly is going with these: http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/billsfavorites/billscharities.jsp
Did Stewart say what his charities are? I assume Oreilly is going with these: http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/billsfavorites/billscharities.jsp
speculawyer
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I'd pay $5 if it was a boxing match. Sadly, O'Reilly would probably win.
BS, Stewart is very smart and savvy, and quick on his game. O'Reilly tends to just shout and babble when he's on the rungs and getting beat. Both are intelligent guys, but I think Stewart should easily have this one. You never know though, but in the last few interviews I've seen of Stewart on Fox for example, he's handled himself beyond well and left Fox seemingly ill equipped on their own damn show.
lawlohwhat
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decent attempt, but not subtle enough.
C'mon Oblivion step it up son, you're like a bad parody of yourself these days.
JCreasy
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Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Ok, actually your right, he's not very smart
O'Reilly seems to ultimately be a pragmatist. An arrogant one, with a very narrow field of view who is about 2 generations behind 2012, but he seems honest about it.
He doesn't oppose gay couples adopting children because rather than squeal about icky homos, he realizes it's better for orphans to have a lifelong family rather than nothing.
He probably doesn't ultimately care about gay marriage because unlike a lot of hypocritical social conservatives who scream about freedom then line up to take it away from everyone they dislike, he seems to stick to his guns: if we say people are equal they have to be equal. If we say government shouldn't tell you what to do, it can't say who can't get married. And so forth.
On the whole, I've always had the impression that O'Reilly plays up his crotchety old man persona because that's what Fox viewers want to see - a angry old white man telling all these commies and hippies that they're of the devil and real Americans are gonna kick their asses. Underneath that however, he's mostly sincere about his beliefs. For better and for worse.
And yes, it appears in space year 2012 we still have people who can't tell the difference in both principle, and end result, of a comedian who plays a clown to make a point, and a clown who plays a straight man to take advantage of his audience.
And there's a reason why I can't bring myself to like O'Reilly even though he has his fair points.
Stewart gives every indication of actually being smart. When he stops with the jokes and asks questions, it is clear he is honestly interested in understanding. If someone has a wildly different viewpoint his tactic is not to say "of course a pinhead like you would say that, ha ha, btw, my ideology always wins." Rather, Stewart entirely on his own has the capacity to ask why they think that, and what they think the result of their belief is.
O'Reilly seems much to cynical to do that or think it's worth his while to try.
The dangerous part is that Stewart advertises himself as a joke that may sometimes try to make a point.
Bill shamelessly and cravenly plays like his exaggerated public face is 100% real and you should take what he's saying to be very important. Especially because you're already a conservative person afraid of strange things and all these dangerous people trying to change your safe world. Pundits like that are the equivalent of the people who created scares about vaccines to further their own agenda or play their role without care for the damage done.
It's all part of the act. Bill baited Silverman with the "tide goes in" business hoping to lure him off-topic. Because once you explain one bit of science, Bill can use the five-year-old-girl tactic of "response->why?->response->why?" etc. Silverman stayed on topic, though.
It's all part of the act. His audience eats it up.
I'm in a slump.
I'll get it back though!
I think the problem is "oh, it's Oblivion, nevermind"
brucewaynegretzky
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I don't agree with O'Reilly and I tend to agree with Stewart though I think he isn't that strong when it comes to the nuance of policy-making (not that many are), but to claim that Stewart is himself a good policy mind and not the product of his writers, while BillO ISN'T a policy guy (despite his Kennedy school pedigree...) is rather off to me.
legacyzero
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To pay O'Reily for agreeing to get destroyed by Stewart.
DanteFox
Meticulously designed by GodManPig to be a few sticks short of a teepee.
(09-17-2012, 11:17 PM)
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