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[joelseph]

Ya got me ya little arm twister you.

 

[Talon]

I know RIM/BB gets a lot of negative press but I would actually prefer one as a "work" phone. One of the managers where I work still uses a Blackberry device (don't know which) but he is able to do ALL of his email, setting up meetings, accepting/declining meetings, ect... from the BB device. That's just not possible with iOS and with MS Exchange.

The better integration between BB and MS Exchange has me intrigued.

...these are all things I do every day on iOS.

 

[Cipherr]

Also,

“The U.S. launch of the Z10 started poorly and weakened significantly as the days passed,” Joseph Fersedi, an analyst at ITG Investment Research, said today in a note, citing information from independent dealers. Some U.S. retailers are seeing a significant increase in customers returning their Z10s because they find the interface unintuitive, Detwiler Fenton & Co. said today.

“In several cases, returns are now exceeding sales, a phenomenon we have never seen before,” Detwiler Fenton said.

 

[mcfrank]

I know RIM/BB gets a lot of negative press but I would actually prefer one as a "work" phone. One of the managers where I work still uses a Blackberry device (don't know which) but he is able to do ALL of his email, setting up meetings, accepting/declining meetings, ect... from the BB device. That's just not possible with iOS and with MS Exchange.

The better integration between BB and MS Exchange has me intrigued.

If that is not possible on iOS, then how do I do it every day? I even use Siri to reschedule meetings. Exchange is deeply integrated into iOS.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

nice thread, giga.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Also,

“The U.S. launch of the Z10 started poorly and weakened significantly as the days passed,” Joseph Fersedi, an analyst at ITG Investment Research, said today in a note, citing information from independent dealers. Some U.S. retailers are seeing a significant increase in customers returning their Z10s because they find the interface unintuitive, Detwiler Fenton & Co. said today.

“In several cases, returns are now exceeding sales, a phenomenon we have never seen before,” Detwiler Fenton said.

That is weird, I thought the device itself was not so bad?

Don't people know what they are getting into?

 

[hwalker84]

I have a Z10 from work and honestly its a solid device. The menu system is absurdly complicated for no reason.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

lol I knew this was a joke thread. Couldn't possibly not be one.

That is weird, I thought the device itself was not so bad?

ah yes, the recipe for success, "not so bad".

 

[Talon]

That is weird, I thought the device itself was not so bad?

Don't people know what they are getting into?

You can't be five years late to the competition and be "not so bad." You need to be great.

Laptop Mag held an OS popularity poll in 2011 and HP/Palm used the result in their HP TouchPad/Pre 3 unveiling.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/os-bowl-final-webos-vs-windows-phone-7-voting-ends-tuesday-28-at-9-a-m

The best part is Windows Phone 5.5 beating iOS.

 

[Pagusas]

I know RIM/BB gets a lot of negative press but I would actually prefer one as a "work" phone. One of the managers where I work still uses a Blackberry device (don't know which) but he is able to do ALL of his email, setting up meetings, accepting/declining meetings, ect... from the BB device. That's just not possible with iOS and with MS Exchange.

The better integration between BB and MS Exchange has me intrigued.

Umm what!? Our entire company does all that, everyday, from our iPhones.

 

[MarkusRJR]

Prepare for the Crackberry Forums' perspective.

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-z10-f254/several-cases-z10-returns-now-exceeding-sales-794416/

The first page seems normal apart from say one or two questionable posts, but then on page two and onwards the usual Crackberry Crazies come out.

Here's most of the crazy posts

phone - kids/teens/granny phone @ people who have yet to matured and aged around 70++..(easy straight forward phone..use less brain)
android - nerds phone (rooting whatsoever..aircrack bla bla bla)
windows - uncategorized..
blackberry - enterprise business phone made for professional (this kind of people do not play games too much..apps?..whatsapp maybe)

Here is my prediction..... in one year iPhone will be looking at a market of 20% and declining steadily. since iPhone is the ONLY real revenue that Apple has anymore (they have not focused on any revisions or upgrades to the iPod or iPad at all) then.. .it will surely be the demise of Apple. when you base a company on hype marketing instead of solid offerings and customer service that is what happens.

all i can say is this

when i look around at what devices people around me in public are using i see..... Samsung and BlackBerry equally followed by iPhone

also.... EVERYONE knows that the last two iPhones have not had any significant improvements and that the next release was actually designed by Steve Jobs before he died

lets see what 2 years from now says about REAL numbers!

Look, today we live in a world where most people have the attention span about the length of a typical commercial. Furthermore most people don't have an original thought on anything of substance at all. Add that to the fact of the " sheep mentally" which is so pervasive in society today and it's obvious why most people reject everything and anything new. Most let TV, friends, and whoever's "In" today determine what's hot or not. "Cool people use Apple or Android. BlackBerry is dead". So the sheep follow. My question is "What difference does it make if people like the phone you use?" I buy BlackBerry products for a number of different reasons. What someone else thinks of that is never a consideration.


Sent from my loooong waited for BlackBerry Z10

Honestly one of the more sane Crackberry threads, considering the topic. I also find it funny that they call the reasonable posters pointing out stuff trolls.

I actually kind of feel bad for Blackberry. They have a decent product and the only thing holding it back is certain apps and consumer perseption. I was actually looking to pick up a Q10 when it comes out (I love hardware keyboard and no one else makes them anymore).

 

[VanMardigan]

The best part is Windows Phone 5.5 beating iOS.

I think that's Windows Phone 7.0, based on the logo.

 

[AstroNut325]

If that is not possible on iOS, then how do I do it every day? I even use Siri to reschedule meetings. Exchange is deeply integrated into iOS.

It's practically against my company's policy to do meeting creations, accepts, declines from iOS devices. There have been too many issues where a high level manager would setup a meeting on an iPhone and the requested attendees never even got the invite. And countless cases where people try to accept meetings on their iOS devices but that never registers with the Exchange server. In some cases meetings disappear from calendars.

 

[Talon]

It's practically against my company's policy to do meeting creations, accepts, declines from iOS devices. There have been too many issues where a high level manager would setup a meeting on an iPhone and the requested attendees never even got the invite. And countless cases where people try to accept meetings on their iOS devices but that never registers with the Exchange server. In some cases meetings disappear from calendars.

Well, apparently Pagusas and I live in a dream world where Exchange works fine with iOS. So does Marsh & McLennan apparently.

Do you work for an insurance company by chance?

 

[Pagusas]

It's practically against my company's policy to do meeting creations, accepts, declines from iOS devices. There have been too many issues where a high level manager would setup a meeting on an iPhone and the requested attendees never even got the invite. And countless cases where people try to accept meetings on their iOS devices but that never registers with the Exchange server. In some cases meetings disappear from calendars.

Sounds more like an exchange issue at your company then an iOS issue, as we've been using it for years, and other then a little hickup when we upgraded the servers to Exchange 2010, we've never had such problems even with full deployment.

 

[Wiz]

Was expecting a link to Crackberry forums tbh.

 

[Talon]

all i can say is this

when i look around at what devices people around me in public are using i see..... Samsung and BlackBerry equally followed by iPhone

also.... EVERYONE knows that the last two iPhones have not had any significant improvements and that the next release was actually designed by Steve Jobs before he died

lets see what 2 years from now says about REAL numbers!

This is great. I <3 Crackberry.

 

[Cipherr]

That is weird, I thought the device itself was not so bad?

Don't people know what they are getting into?

I will never understand the people that seriously use the

"Well, all I see are.."

anecdote when it comes to smartphones. So many millions of these things are sold man... Your personal tally means fuck all.

 

[MarkusRJR]

According to Blackberry,the Z10 returns are at a normal level and that article was false... Of course they don't provide any real data to prove otherwise lol.

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-z10-returns-are-line-other-premium-smartphones

Dat comment section.

 

[methane47]

In other news at least 200 Raymond James employees were fired today

Spoiler

200 from the IT dept alone I dont know how many more from other Depts

Coincidence?
Or RIM Ninjas?

 

[CrunchyFrog]

Bravo OP, masterful

 

[kharma45]

I think that's Windows Phone 7.0, based on the logo.

It is.

 

[Vyer]

I know RIM/BB gets a lot of negative press but I would actually prefer one as a "work" phone. One of the managers where I work still uses a Blackberry device (don't know which) but he is able to do ALL of his email, setting up meetings, accepting/declining meetings, ect... from the BB device. That's just not possible with iOS and with MS Exchange.

The better integration between BB and MS Exchange has me intrigued.

At work I deal with several companies running Exchange. The employees using iPhones are able to do those things.

 

[buhdeh]

Not gonna lie, for work-related purposes I would take a BlackBerry (ONLY ones with a physical keyboard) over an iPhone or my own Nexus 4 any day.

 

[ThatObviousUser]