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BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend will not be available as DLC upgrade

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ShockingAlberto

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http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/2...extend-will-not-be-released-as-a-dlc-upgrade/

If you want to play BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend (or any BlazBlue for that matter!) on PlayStation Vita you have to buy the game on a Vita cart. Arc System Works already released BlazBlue: Continuum Shift for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. So, will you be able to upgrade?

The answer from BlazBlue series producer Toshimichi Mori is no. You won’t be able to purchase downloadable content to turn Continuum Shift into Continuum Shift Extend.

Mori also explained to Siliconera each version has its own online modes and are not compatible with each other. Similar to Super Street Fighter IV, you won’t be able to fight someone who owns BlazBlue: Continuum Shift if you own BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend.

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend will come out for PlayStation Vita, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360 on December 17. Development originally started for Vita, but Mori felt like fans on consoles shouldn’t miss out on the new scenarios and began development on a console version too.
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That's it, I'm out.
 
Ive only bought the original for 20 bucks a year or more ago but this is getting ridiculous. Is this the 3rd or 4th retail version of the game?
 
SolarPowered said:
Sucks for Vita owners, but I don't see a problem with Extend if it adds new characters and features to the free CSII upgrade.
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I think (?) you're misunderstanding.

It is a new retail game on every SKU. And incompatible with previous versions for online play.
 
June 30th 2009-BlazBlue Calamity Trigger-$60
July 27th 2010-BlazBlue Continnum Shift-$50(?)-About thirteen months after it's predecessor
May 10th 2011-BlazBlue Continuum Shift II-Free(*smiley face*)-About eleven months after it's predecessor and free
TBA-BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend-TBA

We basically got two years of gaming between CS and CSII for the price of a single game. I don't even want to hear about Capcom being better than ASW on this subject.

Jesus
ShockingAlberto said:
I think (?) you're misunderstanding.

It is a new retail game on every SKU. And incompatible with previous versions for online play.
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I can see how this would be silly. They should give us the option of just switching to an earlier version of the game like they did for CS and CSII. It'd be a nice gesture of goodwill for people who still like the previous versions. I don't see why people are complaining about it being DLC though. I don't remember them stating that we'd get another game as DLC. I totally expected a new disc, especially after CSII being free.

The worst thing for me aside from the "no previous version" bit is that we have no confirmation that this is the last BlazBlue. I want my Guilty Gear already!

Edit: They really should have worked on allowing connectivity between the PS3 and Sony's handheld.
 
Yikes. People went nuts about Capcom requiring a new retail disc for UMvC3 w/ 12 new characters but this has what? 1 new character?

Characters are the meat of a fighting game.
 
Goddamn, I still have just the vanilla BB game. Is this getting close to Guilty Gear in terms of 'premium' release patches.
 
Bad, bad move. Especially after selling DLC characters for CS that were A: more expensive that everyone else's characters, but didn't come with the features of other games DLC (full story content, usable in all modes, etc).

Still, this just makes me think of all the bitching and howling about Capcom for the last 2 years... when during the "bad days" of 2D fighting games, ASW seemed to release another disc based version of Guilty Gear every year or less than a year apart.

It seemed as if they were the most progressive coming into this generation. The problem is, BlazBlue does not have the huge following in all regions, that Street Fighter or Marvel have. ASW should have nurtured its delicate userbase better than this.

Look at it this way - if you bought all the DLC characters for CS, this means you're paying $40 for one more character and the ability to stay competitive with online play and game balance. Quite a flipflop from free balance updates, character compatiblity patches, etc.


2&2 said:
Yikes. People went nuts about Capcom requiring a new retail disc for UMvC3 w/ 12 new characters but this has what? 1 new character?

Characters are the meat of a fighting game.
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Yup. People bitched and whined like children for Capcom making updates that added TONS of content - 10 - 12 characters an update, lots of new stages, new modes, music, etc.
 
2&2 said:
Yikes. People went nuts about Capcom requiring a new retail disc for UMvC3 w/ 12 new characters but this has what? 1 new character?

Characters are the meat of a fighting game.
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actually, it's confirmed this game will have DLC available so its 1 new character + you can buy even more characters


OT: I'm not surprised. It was never announced as DLC so i don't get why people are suddenly surprised at this news
 
Kaijima said:
Look at it this way - if you bought all the DLC characters for CS, this means you're paying $40 for one more character and the ability to stay competitive with online play and game balance. Quite a flipflop from free balance updates, character compatiblity patches, etc.
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I can totally see how that would be a problem. More than a year and a single character is pretty pathetic. I like to think that there will be at least two more characters, but I guess not.

This game should be DLC if it will just be a story mode update with one new character.
 
I'm actually fine with this when considering all things. BBCSE will have come out almost a year and a half later since the last retail which was BBCS. While it's pretty cheap that they just recently released DLC for CS, I feel like the content added since the last retail copy justifies their sale. CS2 has come out since CS and it's added story mode for the 3 DLC characters as well as Relius. I think if Aksys releases this for 40 dollars again, I would say the purchase is completely justified. Hell, even if it's 50 dollars I would buy it.
 
Nora Kisaragi said:
actually, it's confirmed this game will have DLC available so its 1 new character + you can buy even more characters
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Meh. The retail disc itself is a paltry upgrade over the last disc version. I'm ok given enough new content on the new disc (SSFIV &UMvC3), but this is weak. They easily could have kept going w/ DLC characters for the current disc version, so the promise of new DLC characters is not solid defense of this.
 
Nora Kisaragi said:
OT: I'm not surprised. It was never announced as DLC so i don't get why people are suddenly surprised at this news
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In this case, I suspect most are just really disappointed, not so much surprised. The way they announced this edition seemed suspicious from the start.
 
2&2 said:
They easily could have kept going w/ DLC characters for the current disc version
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This is incorrect. It is literally impossible to add any additional characters to CS.

2&2 said:
How so?
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The game's handling of DLC was structured for only Valkenhayn, Platinum, and Makoto. The graphics and interface data along with their theme songs were discovered in the game data files, which is why the leaks occured where we knew the DLC from the get-go. In all likelihood, Extend is re-working how their DLC system works and testing that now for when they release BB3.
 
Kaijima said:
Look at it this way - if you bought all the DLC characters for CS, this means you're paying $40 for one more character and the ability to stay competitive with online play and game balance. Quite a flipflop from free balance updates, character compatiblity patches, etc.
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Exactly. This is a far cry from the huge content update that SSFIV and UMvC3 are.

Nora Kisaragi said:
This is incorrect. It is literally impossible to add any additional characters to CS.
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How so?
 
Brandon F said:
Goddamn, I still have just the vanilla BB game. Is this getting close to Guilty Gear in terms of 'premium' release patches.
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I'm confused, so if I buy this, All the DLC characters are included? I was glad that only one version of GG came out on XBOX in the US last gen, because this is really confusing. THIS is how you split up a userbase. Is this considered Blazbue 3?
 
2&2 said:
Yikes. People went nuts about Capcom requiring a new retail disc for UMvC3 w/ 12 new characters but this has what? 1 new character?

Characters are the meat of a fighting game.
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UMvC3 already had eight characters cut from the roster because they're rushing the game just like they did with the first one and UMvC3 is coming out eight months after it's predecessor while the first game remained damaged in several aspects.
kayos90 said:
I'm actually fine with this when considering all things. BBCSE will have come out almost a year and a half later since the last retail which was BBCS. While it's pretty cheap that they just recently released DLC for CS, I feel like the content added since the last retail copy justifies their sale. CS2 has come out since CS and it's added story mode for the 3 DLC characters as well as Relius. I think if Aksys releases this for 40 dollars again, I would say the purchase is completely justified. Hell, even if it's 50 dollars I would buy it.
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I'm not going to be happy if it is only one single character, a story mode update and new balance tweaks, but people are acting like CSII was released three months ago for $60.

The response here is a tad strong in my opinion.
Persona7 said:
Why not release a copy of the game with all 3 games bundled?
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This is a fighting game, not an RPG lol.
 
2&2 said:
Exactly. This is a far cry from the huge content update that SSFIV and UMvC3 are.
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With UMvC3, I feel extremely cheated because the vanilla game was not great. Not only this but they have the balls to release it within the same year. I actually feel insulted. With SFIV, not so much. I think what ASW is doing fine compared to UMvC3. On the other hand, if you actually bought CS2 for 3DS and PSP, then that really sucks.
 
Aaand there goes all the good will releasing CSII as a mostly free DLC. Can't say I am mad about this but if it really just adds one character and somemodes that seems meager. Oh well, give us another Guilty Gear and I'll give you my money no questions asked.
 
I'll wait until the price bombs. This is disappointing.

CPS2 said:
How many new characters is this version likely to have? It's more than just one right?
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One new, plus the three DLC characters from CS. This is why I think it's bullshit it's not DLC.
 
SolarPowered said:
UMvC3 already had eight characters cut from the roster because they're rushing the game just like they did with the first one and UMvC3 is coming out eight months after it's predecessor while the first game remained damaged in several aspects.
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Phantom characters are irrelevant. UMvC3 ships with 12 new characters. This game ships with 1. Maybe more info will be released but for a fighting game that's a monstrous difference. Unless they add some magical new modes, the difference in shipping content seems immense.

Sure, they had a more complete previous package, but this still seems totally skimpy.
 
2&2 said:
Phantom characters are irrelevant. UMvC3 ships with 12 new characters. This game ships with 1. Maybe more info will be released but for a fighting game that's a monstrous difference. Unless they add some magical new modes, the difference in shipping content seems immense.
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It's pretty relevant for the hundreds of thousands who want to play their old X-men favorites or Capcom Veterans.

Still, you are certainly right about the huge difference in the number characters each one is boasting.
CPS2 said:
How many new characters is this version likely to have? It's more than just one right?
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I really freaking hope so. At least three new characters should be the bare minimum per priced update...
 
I'll be all doom and gloom when it comes out in the states. I can get all hipster and lecture about how guilty gear had japan only versions before blazblue did.
 
New Features in CSE with everything compared to CS:
- Story Modes for the 3 DLC characters for CS
- All pre-existing features for CS2
- New Character and story mode (Relius)
- Update on some menial random stuff probably
- Patch for Balance and what not.

Like I said, if they charge 40 bucks for this, which I think they will do, this purchase is fine. Like I said even 50 is fine. This isn't the half-baked PoS that MvC3 was. Capcom handled their shit poorly. ASW did not.
 
kayos90 said:
New Features in CSE with everything compared to CS:
- Story Modes for the 3 DLC characters for CS
- All pre-existing features for CS2
- New Character and story mode (Relius)
- Update on some menial random stuff probably
- Patch for Balance and what not.

Like I said, if they charge 40 bucks for this, which I think they will do, this purchase is fine. Like I said even 50 is fine. This isn't the half-baked PoS that MvC3 was. Capcom handled their shit poorly. ASW did not.
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I'm not arguing MvC3 was handled properly, but ASW should not be getting off the hook for this. Most of that is fluff for an existing fighting game. Characters are the meat.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
That's it, I'm out.
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I'm with you. Especially after paying $40 for BBCS and $20+ for the DLC characters.

What are we getting here if we bought the console version? The only things I'd guess are a possible balance patch and 1 new character? Sounds like someone's been learning from Capcom... ;) All for $40. No thank you.

Yeah, no thanks. I'll stay with my BBCS2 and will stay away from the game on Vita, since there's not way I'm buying it on PS3 as well to get any sort of cross platform benefit.
 
2&2 said:
I'm not arguing MvC3 was handled properly, but ASW should not be getting off the hook for this. Most of that is fluff for an existing fighting game. Characters are the meat.
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You guys act like it's extremely easy to make 2D sprites compared to 3D characters with frame animation. Anyway, yes the character count is low but this is just how they handle their crap. It's not like 1 character is the only thing you're getting. From a consumer standpoint, I am fine with 1 character and other stuff. I can see if you're a completely fighting buff this would upset you but most people are going to be like, oh, new stuff.
 
FreedomFrisbee said:
I'll be all doom and gloom when it comes out in the states. I can get all hipster and lecture about how guilty gear had japan only versions before blazblue did.
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True, Extend isn't announced for the states yet on ps3/360, not even sure if the vita version is confirmed stateside but I know for a fact it's not confirmed for consoles. It's possible they could pull a guilty gear and keep this version japan only unless you get a Vita but i'm not so sure.
 
kayos90 said:
You guys act like it's extremely easy to make 2D sprites compared to 3D characters with frame animation. Anyway, yes the character count is low but this is just how they handle their crap. It's not like 1 character is the only thing you're getting. From a consumer standpoint, I am fine with 1 character and other stuff. I can see if you're a completely fighting buff this would upset you but most people are going to be like, oh, new stuff.
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Not discounting the effort to make sprites. For $20, I'd agree w/ you that there's enough content. Not for $40+.
 
2&2 said:
Not discounting the effort to make sprites. For $20, I'd agree w/ you that there's enough content. Not for $40+.
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Honestly the reason they're doing a retail release for this game is because it's been over a year since an actual physical release since the last BB game. In that sense, what they're doing is justified. However, you guys are taking the DLC into perspective. It's completely understandable why you guys are getting upset. To some this will be 4 new characters. To other it's 1 other.
 
kayos90 said:
You guys act like it's extremely easy to make 2D sprites compared to 3D characters with frame animation. Anyway, yes the character count is low but this is just how they handle their crap. It's not like 1 character is the only thing you're getting. From a consumer standpoint, I am fine with 1 character and other stuff. I can see if you're a completely fighting buff this would upset you but most people are going to be like, oh, new stuff.
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I don't give a crap how difficult it is. I'm the consumer. I owe the publisher nothing but my money for their product and I decide whether or not that's worth it to me. If this only has one character for 40 bucks. Fuck that. Horrible. Especially after all the DLC of CS2.

Also, it's not like this game has tons of animation. ASW characters animate like ass compared to something like SF3 or KoF13.
 
LOL Accent core added NO new characters coming from Slash, and it's labeled as one of the best fighters period. Take that as you will.
 
Skilletor said:
ASW characters animate like ass compared to something like SF3 or KoF13.
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But unlike those games, the characters in BB are 720p.

i don't even like bb, i just wanted to troll kofxiii
 
QisTopTier said:
LOL Accent core added NO new characters coming from Slash, and it's labeled as one of the best fighters period. Take that as you will.
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And I remember passing on Slash because of how frequently they updated GG.
 
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